Incline Battle Brothers + Beasts & Exploration, Warriors of the North and Blazing Deserts DLC Thread

[Jimmious]

Seems sweet and unique but from its description I was expecting a multi-tile beast. It doesn't look so "gigantic" in the battle screen

 

[Sarissofoi]

So essentially boosted orc warrior with two handed hammer.
Well, their different habitat versions are pretty cool.

Spoiler

Still waiting for cool lizardmen.

The upcoming DLC will assign to all the beasts distinct habitats around the world

Wait. Is does mean that we will get beast lairs and stuff? Would be cool.

 

[Barbarian]

I can see that a multi-tier beast would probably need a whole battle map system revamp. Otherwise there would be a bugs galore with say, a 4 tile best getting locked between trees or similar stuff.

 

[Jimmious]

I can see that a multi-tier beast would probably need a whole battle map system revamp. Otherwise there would be a bugs galore with say, a 4 tile best getting locked between trees or similar stuff.

Yeah I understand this is the most probable reason... but still

 

[Teut Busnet]

I want another creature for the 'Hunt down what terrorizes X' contract. Boars or Bears or something similar.

 

[Taka-Haradin puolipeikko]

Still waiting for cool lizardmen.

Spoiler

 

[Draugir101]

I'm not sure if I even like that the game are taking the direction towards more beasts. Sure it's nice if you can use their hide to make cool gear, but really what you need early on is just to fight bandits and zombies in order to get better weapons/armor. I've tried keeping tailorers around for a long time with the wolf hides while nothing happened. If you need to do the same with other beast's leftovers in order to get some decent gears, you're just going to have to avoid them early on unless it's an easy fight.

 

[Jimmious]

I'm not sure if I even like that the game are taking the direction towards more beasts. Sure it's nice if you can use their hide to make cool gear, but really what you need early on is just to fight bandits and zombies in order to get better weapons/armor. I've tried keeping tailorers around for a long time with the wolf hides while nothing happened. If you need to do the same with other beast's leftovers in order to get some decent gears, you're just going to have to avoid them early on unless it's an easy fight.

Good point. They do however talk about crafting in the DLC announcement, so Im curious to find out whats that

 

[Salvo]

Why not make it a multi-tile creature that can destroy trees/rocks where it passes, since it's so gigantic? It would solve the "stuck in a tile" problem.

 

[Taka-Haradin puolipeikko]

They do however talk about crafting in the DLC announcement, so Im curious to find out whats that

Perhaps it could be specialized shop in towns that could turn troll noses and such into usable gear.

 

[Tigranes]

Right, at the moment you're incentivised to fight human enemies for loot, so it's worthwhile to bring beast 'loot' up to snuff that way.

 

[Stavrophore]

Either make meaningful DLCs with added new mechanics, or start making new game. DLCs that adds cosmetics and new enemies arent really that interesting IMHO.

 

[Jimmious]

If we were talking about 2-3 enemies and some cosmetics I'd agree. Supposedly though it'll be (much, I hope) more than that... So let's hope - again

 

[SmartCheetah]

I'd also love to see some different human bands. Barbarians and savages? Black Knights? Mongol-like tribesmen and Nordic-like raiders.

Also, any words if they plan adding new backgrounds? Monster hunters might become a thing now, considering what's this dlc about.

 

[Bantichai]

Does anyone know if our old BB saves will work with the new DLC or not? I got the impression they were expanding the size of the map too so it's got me wondering.

 

[Barbarian]

I saw one of the devs commenting something to the effect of saves "probably" being compatible, but that in order to fully enjoy the new content you should start a new game.

Too early to tell I guess, but if they update the world map generation mechanics I doubt saves will be really compatible.

 

[Modron]

Seems sweet and unique but from its description I was expecting a multi-tile beast. It doesn't look so "gigantic" in the battle screen

Multi-tile beasts wouldn't do so well moving in forests.

 

[Serus]

I have a question about 'Fast Adaptation' though (I started giving it to my archers to better deal with Gobbos, seems to help - at least a bit): It says you get an 8% bonus with every shot you miss, I often only get 6 or 4%.

What am I missing?

Terrain penalties? Rounding up of numbers?

Never paid much attention to the numbers, but even if it is only 6% it did help a lot. Specially early levels when your archers and crossbowmen have a hard time hitting anything.

Just checked the Wiki wich doesn't say anything about reduced Boni either. Maybe if what you're shooting at stands behind anything - another enemy, a rock, etc. ?

They should update the description in any case.

IIRC it's simply that this additional % chance from fast adaptation is subjected to the same reductions as the base % chance to hit - because of cover. 6 is obviously 75% of 8, the target had 25% cover. And so on. As simple as that. I might be wrong though, I haven't played BB for quite some time.

 

[Sarissofoi]

I'm not sure if I even like that the game are taking the direction towards more beasts. Sure it's nice if you can use their hide to make cool gear, but really what you need early on is just to fight bandits and zombies in order to get better weapons/armor. I've tried keeping tailorers around for a long time with the wolf hides while nothing happened. If you need to do the same with other beast's leftovers in order to get some decent gears, you're just going to have to avoid them early on unless it's an easy fight.

I think somebody play too much Witcher or maybe Monster Hunter.

Anyway I really hope they fix events RNG or make better mechanics.
They could sort events into few groups with separate cooldown and have different triggers . Something like:
>traveling events(obviously happen when you move - there are triggers based on different terrains as we know)
>camp events(when camping), you could probably make training sessions that way
>city visiting events(they have triggers)
>crafting events - they could happen in vicinity of cities with specific attached locations

I mean you have triggers and global cooldown. How hard it is to make it working?

 

[Hrymr]

I'd also love to see some different human bands. Barbarians and savages? Black Knights? Mongol-like tribesmen and Nordic-like raiders.

Yes, Mount & Blade has no fantasy elements and it manages to make random encounters interesting (even if we remove cavalry from the equation): looters, taiga bandits, steppe bandits, forest bandits, sea riders - each type is different according to the biome. And there are semi-hostile marauders who are just normal troops turned rouge.

And what we got in BB? Thug/Poacher, Raider,Marksmen and Hedge Knights, Swordmasters, Master Archers plus some Bandit Leaders thrown in, so basically three tiers of melee/ranged bandit. And there is no difference between regions, only the level scaling. In the early game there are only thugs and poachers, then the raiders and marksmen start to appear and if you want to fight Hedge Knights you have to wait until the late game. Does that sound a bit boring?

There is so much room for the improvement here, and it's not like new enemies have to be created from the scratch.

 

[Teut Busnet]

I have a question about 'Fast Adaptation' though (I started giving it to my archers to better deal with Gobbos, seems to help - at least a bit): It says you get an 8% bonus with every shot you miss, I often only get 6 or 4%.

What am I missing?

Terrain penalties? Rounding up of numbers?

Never paid much attention to the numbers, but even if it is only 6% it did help a lot. Specially early levels when your archers and crossbowmen have a hard time hitting anything.

Just checked the Wiki wich doesn't say anything about reduced Boni either. Maybe if what you're shooting at stands behind anything - another enemy, a rock, etc. ?

They should update the description in any case.

IIRC it's simply that this additional % chance from fast adaptation is subjected to the same reductions as the base % chance to hit - because of cover. 6 is obviously 75% of 8, the target had 25% cover. And so on. As simple as that. I might be wrong though, I haven't played BB for quite some time.

Then it also factors in some 'natural'(?) bonus for Gobbo Snipers though, I missed one standing in plain sight, without cover, on the same height level and only got +5% for my next shot.

 

[Draugir101]

Also, any words if they plan adding new backgrounds? Monster hunters might become a thing now, considering what's this dlc about.

Witch hunters are already a thing, so really that'd be only stretching it. This game certainly doesn't need new backgrounds, and probably not even new monsters. But crafting could turn out to be an interesting idea, although I really think this game isn't the place for an overly complicated crafting system.

 

[Sarissofoi]

Then it also factors in some 'natural'(?) bonus for Gobbo Snipers though, I missed one standing in plain sight, without cover, on the same height level and only got +5% for my next shot

To be honest we don't even have manual and what we know about mechanics come either from second hand or from devs(and that can truth or not or not whole truth). Kind of tiring exercise in futility.

 

[Jimmious]

Does anyone know if our old BB saves will work with the new DLC or not? I got the impression they were expanding the size of the map too so it's got me wondering.

I believe that rapsdjff mentioned somewhere in the Steam forums that yes , the old saves are compatible BUT you will miss a lot of the new features - especially the new map generation.

So basically your old saves are not completely lost for ever but they will "underperform"

 

[Salvo]

I must have missed it, what's supposed to be new about map generation?