CHEATERS

[Momock]

I only cheated in Mass Effect 1 and 2 to bypass the stupid morality system. This way I could make my own desicions based on RP instead of doing a "paragon run" or a "renegade run". I can't imagine myself playing these games in any other way.

 

[Curious_Tongue]

I modded encumbrance out of Witcher 2, so I did not have to return to town every 15 minutes, while still feeding my inner hoarder.

Yeah, but that's not the way the game is supposed to be played.

 

[Drowed]

(...) and in general destroying the careful technical pacing and design that goes into these games.

You will need to be way more specific than that, and tell which games you're talking about.

 

[mbv123]

Cheats in GTA were fun as fuck to use because they usually had some cool shit like, everyone is blowing each other up with rocket launchers, cars have weird physics so they become flying hovercars, etc.

 

[Roguey]

Never on an initial run, rarely on replays. For example, on my second time through Mass Effect 2 I cheated all my resources up to avoid the planet scanning minigame and I'm not sorry in the slightest. That was pure time padding.

 

[Ash]

There's value in cheating but it isn't a lot. If a game is good, very well designed, by far the best experience you can have with it is playing as intended.

Value in cheating:

-A booster to overcome challenge if you're a complete retard, under the age of 10 or the game has a legit shit piss-poor component and should be bypassed.
-Messing around for a short period (it gets boring fast and has nothing on the actual intended experience).
-Development, analysis and testing-related aspects. For example a youtuber doing an in-depth review on a game would probably do a lot of level skips, and this would be understandable.

All of this multiplied by 100 has absolutely nothing on a true great game played as intended by design though, and ideally the presence of cheats if any should not be handed out on a platter so as to avoid conflict with the true experience (few players can be trusted to understand the intended experience is superior on their own). Old school obscure codes, or cheats unlocked after completion of the game was as usual a golden standard now abandoned.

 

[mck]

I once bought an Action Replay Max so I could import saves to my PS2 and the guy who sold it to me was very judgemental because it was advertised as a cheating device

 

[Unkillable Cat]

OP's post can be best understood by rephrasing it: "Do you fast-forward to the good bits while watching porn?" There's no good or right answer to the question. The whole thread is a trap.

 

[deama]

I can't live without speedhacks anymore.

 

[Tigranes]

Isolated cases like Underrail speedhacks, whatever. When you find yourself cheating on multiple things to get the game rolling, you have to ask yourself...

maybe this is just a shit game?

 

[Mark.L.Joy]

There's a good case for cheating in Red Faction Guerrilla with infinite mines to fully enjoy the destruction engine.

 

[Vorark]

The only game I remember cheating was Saints Row 2. Grinding activities in order to unlock story segments was a chore.

 

[Santander02]

No, but not that it matters anymore what with developers re-branding cheat codes as "boosters" and offering them as a microtransaction, you really have to be a real sucker to pay money for something like that.

 

[ghostdog]

Remember back when developers actually put effort in cheats?

My favorite cheat was in simcity (DOS): type "FUNDS" and get a lot of money, but then Godzilla will come and destroy your city

 

[ColonelTeacup]

Recently it has come to my attention that many codexers use CHEATS, usually in the form of CHEATengine to give themselves an edge in games. Using it to gain max stats or bypass certain sections and so on, and in general destroying the careful technical pacing and design that goes into these games. Using CHEATS completely invalidates any opinion you might have on the respective game.

Cheaters win. Just refer to your avatar. Without the maguffin of the childe of cain, the Anarchs were already bent over a barrel by the camarilla and nines of the fast track to assassination and defamation. There is no cheating, there are only winners and losers.

 

[taxalot]

Don't cheat the taxman, that's all I have to say.

 

[ColonelTeacup]

The taxman has already rigged the game and is cheating you. A perfect example of cheating to win.

 

[tindrli]

i didn't cheat for years. and remember that every time i used a cheat i didn't finish the game..was bored to hell in the hours that came

 

[agentorange]

Recently it has come to my attention that many codexers use CHEATS, usually in the form of CHEATengine to give themselves an edge in games. Using it to gain max stats or bypass certain sections and so on, and in general destroying the careful technical pacing and design that goes into these games. Using CHEATS completely invalidates any opinion you might have on the respective game.

Cheaters win. Just refer to your avatar. Without the maguffin of the childe of cain, the Anarchs were already bent over a barrel by the camarilla and nines of the fast track to assassination and defamation. There is no cheating, there are only winners and losers.

If you take any advantage that can be given to you within the rules and systems of the game then, yes, I have no problem with this. If an exploit exists within the game that you can make use of, then go ahead and do so. Save scum to your hearts content and so on. Use that endless combo in a fighting game. The only time I would say no to this is when a gentleman's agreement has been reached prior to the game being played (say like house multiplayer rules in Alpha Centauri).



Here is a situation that I completely support. Using an exploit like this shows an intimate knowledge with the systems and level design of the game. It is something that exists entirely within the predefined world of the game. Whereas using a cheat would be like the equivalent of being in a Football match and pulling out an uzi to mow the opposing team down. It is the same thing in a single player game because by the very act of playing any game you have agreed to abide by whatever rules are set forth within the confines of that game. You can cheat if you want, but in the same way that a cheater will be thrown out a competition, your opinions will be thrown out of any discussion concerning the merits of said game.

 

[Jenkem]

yes lots of codexers cheat and many also sperg out about bugs in a newly released game which begs the question: did they get this upset in the 90s when games had bugs or glitches and were patched in a year or not at all? (probably not because they didn't play games then and their talk of the "good old days" is a lie they tell themselves to make them feel socially normal)

lots of frauds on the codex, tbqh

 

[CyberWhale]

In MP games? No.
In SP games? Not usually, but sometimes I might do it. Savestates on emulators are one of my favorite cheats.

 

[agentorange]

lots of frauds on the codex, tbqh

This sums it up. I now have to bear in mind that whenever I am discussing the qualities of a game with someone on this forum, be it difficulty, systems, pacing, and so on, it is very likely that they cheated their way through the entire game.

 

[janior]

thats a long shame list my dudes

 

[ColonelTeacup]

Recently it has come to my attention that many codexers use CHEATS, usually in the form of CHEATengine to give themselves an edge in games. Using it to gain max stats or bypass certain sections and so on, and in general destroying the careful technical pacing and design that goes into these games. Using CHEATS completely invalidates any opinion you might have on the respective game.

Cheaters win. Just refer to your avatar. Without the maguffin of the childe of cain, the Anarchs were already bent over a barrel by the camarilla and nines of the fast track to assassination and defamation. There is no cheating, there are only winners and losers.

If you take any advantage that can be given to you within the rules and systems of the game then, yes, I have no problem with this. If an exploit exists within the game that you can make use of, then go ahead and do so. Save scum to your hearts content and so on. Use that endless combo in a fighting game. The only time I would say no to this is when a gentleman's agreement has been reached prior to the game being played (say like house multiplayer rules in Alpha Centauri).



Here is a situation that I completely support. Using an exploit like this shows an intimate knowledge with the systems and level design of the game. It is something that exists entirely within the predefined world of the game. Whereas using a cheat would be like the equivalent of being in a Football match and pulling out an uzi to mow the opposing team down. It is the same thing in a single player game because by the very act of playing any game you have agreed to abide by whatever rules are set forth within the confines of that game. You can cheat if you want, but in the same way that a cheater will be thrown out a competition, your opinions will be thrown out of any discussion concerning the merits of said game.

But mowing down the competition annuls the match, thereby losing it for you. It'd be easier to put itching powder in their jockstraps to get them to distract them, or force them to forfeit the match. Cheating is simply using your mind to circumvent the problem, rather than brawn. Working smart rather than working hard. Should we go back to the times of two armies marching towards one another and exchanging blows in turn as well because it would be fair? Of course not. The very essence of strategy is cheating.

 

[ColonelTeacup]

lots of frauds on the codex, tbqh

This sums it up. I now have to bear in mind that whenever I am discussing the qualities of a game with someone on this forum, be it difficulty, systems, pacing, and so on, it is very likely that they cheated their way through the entire game.

Frankly some gameplay portions of games are so dull they should have a skip combat portion, such that you can get to the next story part quicker.