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Difficulties with starting a new game

Zombra

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Every day I glance at a long list of pirated iso's sitting on my hdd crying for my attention, and proceed to mindlessly browse the web instead.
On a related note, I don't pirate games any more. Not that I'm so rich that I can buy all I want, and not even that I have an overpowering moral objection to stealing ... I eventually discovered that pirating a game makes me super unmotivated to play it, even if it is good. On the other hand, any game I get legitimately - even if I get it for free - I feel obligated to at least try for a few hours; again, no matter its apparent quality.

I guess what I'm saying is: I have hangups about being a consumer.
 
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buying a game instead makes me super pissed if it turns out anything lesser than what it's been advertised for. which means every game is going to suck.
well, 99% of what it's sold nowadays sucks anyway, but having paid for such sucking pisses me off to no end
imagine this: what would have you felt if you bought no man's sky? would you still feel super motivated to play it? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-purchase_rationalization
those few demos still available aren't reliable either, because they contain all the best the game has to offer, sometimes even stuff which is not going to be present in the full release, just to trick you into buying.
i'm not buying that.
 

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Every day I glance at a long list of pirated iso's sitting on my hdd crying for my attention, and proceed to mindlessly browse the web instead.
On a related note, I don't pirate games any more. Not that I'm so rich that I can buy all I want, and not even that I have an overpowering moral objection to stealing ... I eventually discovered that pirating a game makes me super unmotivated to play it, even if it is good. On the other hand, any game I get legitimately - even if I get it for free - I feel obligated to at least try for a few hours; again, no matter its apparent quality.

I guess what I'm saying is: I have hangups about being a consumer.

I don't have much buying history to compare, but I played like 1000 hours in pirated FM2010, and 15 minutes in FM2012 bought legitimately. So, no, money wasted do not make me attracted to the game any closer.
 

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imagine this: what would have you felt if you bought no man's sky? would you still feel super motivated to play it? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-purchase_rationalization
Of course. I would have wanted to "get my money's worth".
Bear in mind that your hypothetical situation requires me to have been dumb enough to buy it in the first place, which I'm not.
Then again, I was talked into buying Dragon Age 2 at full price by a "friend" of mine back in the day. It took me 20 hours of "good faith effort" trying to enjoy it before I finally let it go. I'm a bit wiser now, I hope.

those few demos still available aren't reliable either, because they contain all the best the game has to offer, sometimes even stuff which is not going to be present in the full release, just to trick you into buying.
Hmm, that's not my experience. I've never liked a demo and then hated the game. Then again having demos at all is a rarity nowadays.
 

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buying a game instead makes me super pissed if it turns out anything lesser than what it's been advertised for. which means every game is going to suck.
well, 99% of what it's sold nowadays sucks anyway, but having paid for such sucking pisses me off to no end
imagine this: what would have you felt if you bought no man's sky? would you still feel super motivated to play it? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-purchase_rationalization
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Dunno man, with that $60 you could buy the whole codex all time top-10 when they are on sale on GoG and bundles. As always when buying a game, I do an opportunity cost check - will that game give me more joy than, say going to see a movie. Mostly it's the game that wins.

That being said, I have hard time imagining I would buy a game that'd cost more than USD 30 (apart from kickstarter where I do not learn from my mistakes).
 

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I find it's difficult to find time, energy and right mood for games. I have lot of games in backlog simply because there's often something else to do or I don't feel like I can get into game like I want to. I do play a lot when I have a free week or something, but that just doesn't happen that often.

I think there are things worth experiencing, even if just pondering game design, in lot of games, but I don't feel enthusiasm experiencing, or trying some title just for the sake of doing it like I used to but instead find myself reading a novel instead. There are lot of crappy games for sure, but mostly I think it's just that I'm getting old.
 
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Shit writing and streamlined mechanics are to blame. Besides, a lot of games (including old ones) start almost exactly the same, shit's tedious. Not to mention the real cancer of modern gayming - unskippable tutorial areas/levels/whatever.
 

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Maybe it's ADD. RITALIN can boost your game completion rate UP TO 80%, it also helps with studies.
 

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I don't have much buying history to compare, but I played like 1000 hours in pirated FM2010, and 15 minutes in FM2012 bought legitimately. So, no, money wasted do not make me attracted to the game any closer.

I never pirated FM, but I did notice that each successive one I bought decreased in overall playtime. From 1300 hours in FM11 to eventually under 100 in FM15. Decided there was no point in me continuing to buy them since the playtime was clearly suggesting that I either didn't have the time (or wasn't enjoying them as much).
 

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Maybe it's ADD. RITALIN can boost your game completion rate UP TO 80%, it also helps with studies.
If you are going to take Ritalin why not spend your time doing productive things with that Ritalin, I mean The cost for Ritalin tablet 5 mg is around $76 for a supply of 100 tablets, depending on where you buy it. After putting that much of investment dont you want some return on that?
 

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I can sorta relate, the hardest part it's probably having to learn all those new sub-systems. In crpg you also have the character creator, which may or not may take some people two days just to get started (I re-did Original Sin intro like 10 times because I couldn't decide a set-up) Plus with old game you need to check mods, which releases are the best, etc.

Once I'm into a game, I rarely stop playing it's, unless it's really boring or I lost a save.
 

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Maybe it's ADD. RITALIN can boost your game completion rate UP TO 80%, it also helps with studies.
If you are going to take Ritalin why not spend your time doing productive things with that Ritalin, I mean The cost for Ritalin tablet 5 mg is around $76 for a supply of 100 tablets, depending on where you buy it. After putting that much of investment dont you want some return on that?

Like I said, as a secondary and minor side effect it also helps with studies.
 

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Shit writing and streamlined mechanics are to blame. Besides, a lot of games (including old ones) start almost exactly the same, shit's tedious. Not to mention the real cancer of modern gayming - unskippable tutorial areas/levels/whatever.
I think its this. In the past few months I've started Alien Isolation and Witcher 2 and just couldn't bring myself to get through the forced tutorial/prologue chapter. I eventually did with W2, but I just uninstalled Alien. I'd rather consult the manual or keybindings to find the nuances, 99% of which are pretty standard nowadays anyway.
 
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Does "rerolling main character until you're bored of it and drop the game for a month" count as "difficulties with starting a new game"?
 

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Keep in mind that a game is a skill, not a passive experience like a movie. You actually need an effort to get into them, so it's not surprising that -when you are not a kid anymore- you find it difficult get into new ones or that you keep going back to those you already mastered.

It doesn't help that most of the new ones are shit, of course.
I find it more difficult to watch a brainy movie than to learn a new game. The amount of intelligence and effort required to learn a new game is trivial, except Dwarf Fortress or something similarly esoteric. It is easy to concentrate on a game, and you are not in a terrible rush to learn - which may be a problem with a new board game, where winning depends on how fast you can grasp the rules, and you are constantly distracted by socialising.

On the other hand, with a movie you have to force yourself to keep attention all the time, to keep thinking about what you are watching, and to finish the thing. For instance, I had to make three longish breaks while watching Oedipus Rex, even if I liked it.
 
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I have no problem starting games. I have no problem finishing a game once I've started it. Most often I have a problem where I want to stop playing a game because it's crap but I have to finish it because I want to know just how crap it really is.

Most of you guys must be nuts. Crackers. Fruitcakes. Etc.

Agree with those above who said "stop buying so many games, just buy one you're interested in", cos:

"OMG, I just don't know what to wear!":

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You probably don't realise it, but you're succumbing to a predominantly traditionally female mindset when you overdose yourself with choice, that of indecision, something which men have, from generations of internal bullying, mostly eradicated but gets resurfaced at times of excess plenty. This doesn't mean the market as a whole should have less choice, quite the opposite, but it means you should be 'manning up' in the indecision department.
 

Baron Dupek

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Rerolling character numerous times? Starting the game many times until bored? The hell people?
You must know that not evey game is Skyrim where you can be master at everything, some things will be missed. I did maybe two restarts in DivOS EE when i found that some skills are useful way later or can be used by recruited NPC. MinMaxing is not fun and worn out quickly any fun, especially in D&D titles (and this is written by someone who played D&D only via videogames).
It also helps not being completionist cause that shit burn me out and even good games become job-tedious.
 

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If we are talking about RPGs then I sure agree. It is one thing if you have a free weekend and not much to do, but when you come home from work I am often mentally exhausted and then I rarely if never can get into an RPG. They demand more of your attention, but not in that sense of "reaction" that an action game need. I always end up with some strategy game instead. something that almost play itself, like football manager or civilization.

And i must agree with OP that the biggest hindrance is really get going in an RPG. if you really have started one then it is easier as you already got it in your mind and might even reflected on it during a workday.
 

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People go through these phases, until you outright lose interest in even starting the game/emulation.


Congratulations Peter, you're a adult now. Wendy finally fucked off.
Get a new hobby, preferably one that doesn't pander to simplistic teenagers.
 

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