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Factorio, a factory building game

Discussion in 'Space, Sims & City Builders' started by kovarex, Feb 9, 2013.

  1. Mark.L.Joy Novice

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    anvi I have set objectives like "I want to outproduce earth's entire industrial output in a second" but I agree that once research is done or approaching the end you get that sinking feeling of "What's the point?" or "I'm done here" it may need some end game stuff but even 20 to 40 hours of fun autistic gameplay already surpassed most games out there.

    I haven't played since 0.12 and I'm waiting for 0.15 to see nuclear power and whatever other features it has now you should wait a year or so before coming to it again and maybe give bob's mod a go and resource spawner overhaul if it's still needed to build more railways and play around with trains and robots more.
     
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  2. anvi Scholar

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    Yep I am happy about 20-40 hours, and was huge fun for that time too, this game is amazing. It is more hours than I ever spent in a SimCity game or Theme Park/Hospital/Hotel/Etc. I have not tried any mods though and I looked them up and there are some that would give me another 20 hours of fun, maybe more. There is a mod that adds planes and even bombers so killing all the enemies would not be as much of a chore, and I think at that point I might be able to enjoy producing more stuff, especially if I find a mod that adds more good gear to research. But I am gonna wait for .15 to play it again, I will get that, install some mods.

    In the meantime, checking out RimWorld.
     
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  3. Data4 Arcane

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    As I may have mentioned before, my big fuckup was watching too many videos. It started off as just wanting to get an idea of the interface and quick how-to's, and then I found that watching these guys go through the motions was addictive. After about 15 hours of video stretched over a week or so, I discovered that once I started getting the main components of my bus together, I lost the drive to continue.
     
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  4. anvi Scholar

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    I am kinda annoyed at these games getting hyped before their time. The factory building in this game is not bad but it isn't enough to play it for a long time. They added combat, but the combat is shit, it has zero depth or challenge to it. There is also no endgame, they put in a stupid space ship which they say is just a placeholder, but they refuse to say what it is a placeholder for, and when they will create the real endgame. They have a roadmap showing the next update and then the final update they say will be release version, and neither of those have any sort of endgame or update to the combat either.

    So the "i LiEk tO buiLd thIngS cuZ iM cReaTif" crowd will be happy with any old shit, but anyone who wants some depth, challenge and longevity from their games, will not find it here. Yet it is a great concept. I think if you didn't play this game until a year from now, you would probably get a masterpiece that you could play every day for weeks or months without losing motivation. But currently I can build a factory and launch the spaceship in a few days. There is so much they could do stretch this out without it being grindy, but they haven't done it yet and wont do it for a long time. Mods help, but can only go so far.
     
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  5. anvi Scholar

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    Wow you guys have got to check out "FortressCraft: Evolved"! It is basically Factorio but with more stuff to do and make, and in first person... I put in a lot of hours but I'm still new to it, but so far it just seems like the same kind of experience but bigger and better. Crazy how addictive these types of games are.
     
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  6. Make America Great Again Perkel Arcane

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    Dude try bobs mod and you will be looking at 100h+ trying to get to last items.
    Also enemies get a lot harder thus more defense and research thus more stuff to do.

    I am like 20 hours in and i got production of green and red science packs.

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    will try game you mentioned.
     
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  7. anvi Scholar

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    Yeah I plan to get Bobs mods and some others once 0.15 finally shows up. I am mostly done with FortressCraft now, I put in about 90 hours which is huge for me. Mostly it was fun but it got a bit grindy and boring nearer the end, but maybe that's just me. I guess anything can lose its appeal after 90 hours.
     
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  8. Lazing Dirk Arcane

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    The latest blog post has a whole bunch of cool stuff, such as the completed nuclear power tech

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    And it seems some sort of open beta for 0.15 will start on tuesday. No solid word yet on when the proper 0.15 release is. The week after perhaps. The high-res preview looks pretty impressive as well, more like promotional artwork than actual in-game graphics. Get that turbo-autism ready!
     
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  9. Make America Great Again Perkel Arcane

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    So what is in 0.15 ?

    nuclear and ?
     
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  10. Lazing Dirk Arcane

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    • Nuclear power
    • Blueprint preservation (Export/import blueprints)
    • Update optimizations (belts, pipes, trains, etc)
    • Research Revolution (infinite research + space science)
    • Combat balance
    • Liquid wagon + universal barreling
    • New 3x2 boiler
    • Map interaction improvements, map tags and 'zoom to map', logistics coverage, networks, weapon range, tags, resource patch inspection
    • High res graphics
    • Circuit network additions, improvements and optimizations
    • New terrain
    • Scenario pack extension - Wave defense and PvP scenario
    • First set of interactive mini tutorials
    • Multiplayer bug-fixes, improvements, and permission system
    • New nightvision
    • More advanced map settings + presets
    • Programmable speaker
    And probably some more stuff I forgot/didn't see in the FFFs
     
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  11. anvi Scholar

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    I just wish they would add RTS combat. Building gets boring after you made everything.
     
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  12. Ironmonk Learned

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    So, apparently Klonan have released the changelog for 0.15 to some people.

    There is a video on youtube with a guy reading through it and I found the changelog in text as well. ( https://pastebin.com/7grqL5kq )
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    Major features
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    - Research overhaul. 4 new science packs: Military, Production, High-tech and space.
    Space science packs are generating by launching a rocket.
    Added infinite researches.
    - Nuclear power.
    - Blueprint library: Allows for keeping players blueprints between individual game saves and allows sharing
    blueprints in multiplayer games.

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    Features
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    - Map Interaction improvements:
    Selectable map overlays: logistics networks, pollution, electric network, turret range, etc.
    Train stations and trains can be opened by clicking them while in the map view.
    Zoom to the world view from the map. It only shows parts of the map covered by radar or other players though.
    Custom map markers can be added by the players.
    - Added wagon for transporting fluids.
    One side of pump can connect to the fluid wagon, the other side has to be connected to something else.
    - When dying in multiplayer you leave behind a body with your items that slowly degrades.
    - Added infinite mining productivity research, each tier increases mining productivity by 2%.
    - Fuel type now affects vehicle acceleration and top speed.
    - Added coal liquefaction oil processing recipe.
    - Added Pipette Tool. Picks up items from your inventory used to build the currently selected entity. For resources it will select the fastest available resource extractor.
    - Mini tutorials. Small missions that explain some of the game mechanics. The current content is a testing sample and it only covers trains.
    - New scenarios: PvP and Wave defense.

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    Graphics
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    - Added high graphics quality option. In this settings the following list of things will have double resolution:
    Car, Trains, Rails, Rail signals, Train stop, Transport belts, Underground belts, Splitters, Pipes, Steam engine, Assembling machines, Oil refinery, Chemical plant,
    Mining drill, Furnaces, Resources
    - New ore graphics that makes the ore patches look less tiled.
    - Tweaked the GUI graphics.
    - Decreased the size of the recipe icons on assembling machine by 23%.

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    Minor features
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    - Fast in game interactions like fast inserting into/from entity and copy paste can be done by dragging
    instead of having to click one at a time.
    - Build-by-moving for electric poles now accounts for covering all unpowered entities on the way.
    - Fast replacing input piece of underground belt will also fast replace ouput piece if possible.
    - Added support for setting player color from the /color command using Lua syntax: {r=...g=...,b=...,a=...}
    - Added warning for situation when robots don't have storage place to put items in the logistics network.
    - Pumps show their direction in the detailed view.
    - Belts and pipes show correct connections when building a bluprint.
    - Technologies show the required science packs below the icons in the technology GUI list.
    - Technologies are sorted by the science packs needed.
    - Added /screenshot command - takes a screenshot of your current game screen.
    - Added support for equipment grids in the map editor.
    - The build rotation of each blueprint is remembered independently of the general item build rotation.
    - Infinite resource minimal yield is calculated using the initial resource amount and the prototype minimum yield.
    - Added optional filters to the deconstruction planner.
    - Copying from assembling machines to filter inserters will set the filters to the ingredients of the assembling machine recipe.
    - Combat robots and construction robots are maintained between sessions in multiplayer and when changing surfaces.
    - Added reverse-rotate.
    - Offshore pump and generator show pumping speed/fluid usage.
    - Alternative select with blueprints (shift + select) skips the blueprint setup GUI.
    - Mining rails is disabled if mining starts with trains or gates.
    - Toggle fullscreen using Alt + Enter.
    - Added "f"/"force" option to the /players command
    - Added Logistic networks GUI containing a list of all networks and contents with search (opened by the L key).
    - Added /open command - opens another players inventory if you're an admin.
    - Added /alerts command - configures alerts for your player.
    - Added /mute-programmable-speaker command - disables global sounds created by the Programmable Speaker entity.
    - Added /seed command - prints the map seed.
    - Added fluids to the production GUI.
    - Added kill statistics GUI.
    - Added enable/disable all mods button to the mod manager GUI.
    - Added automatic barreling support for all fluids.
    - Cargo wagons can have settings copied from any distance like Locomotives.
    - Added the ability to auto-launch the rocket.
    - Train stops can be colored like trains.
    - Fish can be collected by robots.
    - Extended map generator settings to include an advanced section.
    - Added map generator presets.
    - Show fog-of-war and radar radius when holding radar in cursor.
    - Seed for map creation on the headless server can be specified via map-gen-settings.json
    - Damaged items merge into one stack, the health of the stack will be the average of the items.
    - Added server whitelist support -- see the /whitelist console command.
    - Added /banlist command to operate on the banlist, in addition to the pre-existing /ban and /unban commands.
    - Added "favourite" feature in public games list: Keep your favourite servers at the top of the list.
    - Added /permissions command for managing permissions in a multiplayer game.
    - Added ability to change individual inserter stack size bonuses through GUI or the circuit network.
    - Added ability to export and import blueprints, blueprint books, and deconstruction planners as strings.
    - Server console will print JOIN and LEAVE messages for players joining or leaving.
    - Server console messages that aren't a part of the main log can be logged separately by running the server with the --console-log option.
    - Translatable energy units and SI prefixes (eg. "100 ГВт").
    - Furnaces and assembling machines show the amount of products finished.

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    Balancing
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    - Increased the rate at which resources grow with distance from the center by 50%.
    - Crude oil balancing: Halved the resource amount on the map
    Increased the minimum yield from 10% to 20%
    Halved the rate of depletion.
    Doubled the starting yield.
    Fixed that the mechanics of increasing richness with distance from start wasn't working for crude oil.
    - Increased module inventory size of Chemical plant and oil refinery from 2 to 3.
    - Increased logistic slot/trash slot count from 5 per level to 6 per level.
    - Removed processing unit from the modular armor and portable solar panel recipe.
    - Increased the pump pumping speed 4 times.
    - Reduced the plastic bar recipe requirement of petroleum gas 30 -> 20
    - Reduced the electric engine recipe requirement of lubricant 20 -> 15
    - Reduced the electric furnace recipe requirement of steel 15 -> 10
    - Reduced the steel furnace recipe requirement of steel 8 -> 6
    - Reduced the pumpjack recipe requirement of steel 10 -> 5
    - Reduced crafting time:
    Engine unit + electric engine unit: 20 -> 10
    Pumpjack 10 -> 8
    Advanced circuit 8 -> 6
    Processing unit 15 -> 10
    Cracking recipes 5 -> 3
    - Increased stack size of stone wall pipe and belts 50 -> 100
    - Increased the maximum power production of steam engine from 510kW to 900kW
    - Doubled the heat capacity of water from 0.1kJ per degree per liter to 0.2kJ.
    - Increased the substation supply area (16X16 to 18X18) and wire reach (16 to 18).

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    Combat Balancing
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    - Player regains health at a much higher rate, but only after being out of combat for 10 seconds.
    - Discharge defense equipment pushes back, stuns and damages nearby enemies when activated by the remote.
    - Decreased the size of Discharge defense equipment from 3x3 to 2x2.
    - Greatly increased the damage of Personal Laser Defense Equipment.
    - Flamthrower gun has a minimum range of 3.
    - The flames created on ground from the flamethrower significantly increase in duration and damage when more fuel is added to them by firing at the same spot.
    - Increased fire resistance of biter bases.
    - Increased the health of player non-combat buildings.
    - Increased player health from 100 to 250.
    - Increased collected amount and effectiveness of Fish.
    - Increased the damage, range and health of biters worms.
    - Decreased health and resistance of Behemoth biters.
    - Doubled the stack size of all ammos.
    - Tweaked the cost and crafting time of some ammos.
    - Increased the damage of most player ammos. Greatly increased the damage and fire rate of Rockets and Cannon Shells.
    - Increased the collision box of Cannon Shells.
    - Increased Tank health and resistances.
    - Added research for Tank Cannon Shells damage and shooting speed.
    - Tweaked research bonuses and added more end-game research for military upgrades.
    - Greatly increased the damage of Mines. They also stun nearby enemies when they explode.
    - Added uranium rounds magazine and uranium cannon shells.
    - Added flamethrower to the tank.
    - Other minor changes.

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    Optimizations
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    - Improved performance of mining drills in general and significantly improved performance when mining drills get backed up.
    - Improved performance when tiles are changed due to migration/mod removal.
    - Significantly improved GUI performance for inventories that required scroll bars.
    - Improved GUI performance in general.
    - Improved performance of radars scanning chunks.
    - Improved map generation speed and generation algorithm.
    - Improved game load performance when a large amount of mod data exists in the save.
    - Optimized graph rendering in production statistics window.
    - Improved regenerate entity performance.
    - Improved network map transfer performance.
    - Improved train performance when building/mining rail related entities.
    - Optimized memory requirements for storing tiles under concrete.

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    Circuit Network
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    - Significantly improved circuit network performance. Up to 25 times less CPU usage and 10% less memory usage.
    - Added the Programmable Speaker: it shows alerts and plays sounds based on circuit network signals. It can be used to make simple songs.
    - Train Stop can output the contents of the stopped train's cargo.
    - Train Stop can be disabled using the circuit network. Trains will skip disabled Train Stops, allowing simple train control.
    - Mining Drills can be turned on and off using the circuit network. They can also output the remaining expected resources.
    - Pumpjacks can be turned on and off using the circuit network. They can also output the current oil mining rate.
    - Added Modulo, Power, Left Bit Shift, Right Bit Shift, Bitwise AND, Bitwise OR and Bitwise XOR to the Arithmetic Combinator.
    - Added >=, <=, != to the Decider Combinator and Circuit Conditions.

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    Changes
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    - Boilers are more powerful and bigger and have dedicated output for the steam.
    Default boilers output steam at the fixed temperature 165.
    - Removed support of 32 bit systems.
    - Removed alien artifacts and alien science packs from the game completely.
    - Changed bounding box of burner mining drills and pumpjack, so it is possible to walk in between them.
    - Disabled loading of saves before 0.12.0 version (You can use 0.12 to load older saves and re-save them).
    - Changed "small pump" to "pump". Small pumps in old saves will be migrated but they will be misaligned and disconnected from pipes.
    - Train station adds 2000 tiles penalty when path finding, so trains try to avoid stations not related to their path.
    - The map seed is used to generate unique maps instead of just shifting the starting position.
    - The "decorative" entity type has been deprecated and replaced with the prototype type "optimized-decorative".
    - Multiplied all fluid amounts by 10.
    - All default map editor actions are now on left click.
    - Change fluidbox height and base level of boiler, steam engine and pump to improve fluid flow.
    - When the active train stop is removed trains will immediately leave the station if they're waiting at the station.
    - Changed the default comparison type for train conditions to "or".
    - Fast replacing splitters maintains the splitter contents on the new splitter instead of returning it to the player.
    - Research started/changed notifications are only shown when in multiplayer.
    - Crafting is now paused when the results can't be given to the player instead of spilling them on the ground.
    - Changed evolution from global to per force.
    - Disabled mining of vehicles other players are driving.
    - Decreased biter sounds volumes
    - Laser turret projectiles move much faster
    - Roboport construction area changed from 50 to 51 to allow roboports build/deconstruct each other even when there is a 1 tile gap between their logistic areas.
    - Restart button now uses map generation settings from currently loaded save.
    - New rocket silo GUI and visbility button for freeplay and sandbox scenarios.
    - Unified internal name of the 'flame-thrower' to 'flamethrower'.
    - Manual ghost building will mark trees/rocks for deconstruction similar to alt-building blueprints.
    - Trains are now always visible on the map, not only on chunks observed by radars or players.
    - Renamed "armor-making-2" to "heavy-armor".
    - Renamed "armor-making-3" to "power-armor".
    - Renamed "diesel-locomotive" to "locomotive".
    - Increased blueprint book size to hold 1000 blueprints
    - Blueprints, blueprint books and deconstruction planners are obtainable from the library GUI with no crafting cost.
    - Added combinator working, wire hold and wire place sounds.

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    Modding
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    - Fast cropping of sprite boundaries - it's no longer necessary to delete crop-cache.dat when existing sprites are modified.
    - Utility sprites are now defined fully in the core mod prototypes.
    - Added support for burner type generator-equipment.
    - Added "simple-entity-with-force" and "simple-entity-with-owner" entity types.
    - Boiler has now dynamically specified energy source (as inserter and similar).
    - Added support for mod settings: startup, runtime, and runtime-per-user.
    - Added commandline option --check-unused-prototype-data
    - Added a "nothing" technology modifier type with an "effect_key" property for script-based-effect research.
    - Redundant technology prerequisites are logged when verbose logging is enabled.
    - Changed technology prototype icon_size to default to 32 instead of 64.
    - In any instance an icon isn't 32x32 the icon_size property must be set to the actual size of the (square) icon.
    - Added the ability to have "friend" forces. Friend forces are given unrestricted access to buildings and won't be attacked.
    - Changed container entities to not scale info icons by default + added the optional prototype property "scale_info_icons" to enable scaling.
    - Added property "turret_base_has_direction" to turret entity types. Set it to true if you want to use turn_range property in turret attack_parameters.
    This property has to be true for any fluid-turret, because of pipe connections.
    - Added support for different recipe and technology complexity definitions.
    - Added "item-with-tags" item type that can store any basic arbitrary Lua data.
    - Lamps, roboports, walls, rail signals, and accumulators now accept any signal type (item, fluid, virtual).
    - "animation_speed" property of animation definitions has to be greater than 0.
    - Renamed smoke-with-trigger "action_frequency" property to "action_cooldown".

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    Scripting
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    - Added "by_script" to on_research_finished.
    - Added "cause" to on_entity_died - the entity that did the killing if available.
    - Added "recipe" to on_player_crafted_item.
    - Added "rocket_silo" to the rocket launched event.
    - Added 4th custom gui root position "goal", which is used in the objectives.
    - Added column_alignments settings in table style.
    - Added LuaBurner - readable off entities and equipment - the burner energy source for the entity.
    - Added LuaCircuitNetwork::network_id read.
    - Added LuaConstantCombiantorControlBehavior::signals_count read + set_signal and get_signal.
    - Added LuaControl::shooting_state, repair_state, picking_state read/write.
    - Added LuaCustomChartTag + LuaForce API to add/find them.
    - Added LuaDecorativePrototype.
    - Added LuaEntity::connect_rolling_stock and disconnect_rolling_stock methods.
    - Added LuaEntity::get_logistic_point().
    - Added LuaEntity::graphics_variation read/write for simple entities and trees.
    - Added LuaEntity::shooting_target read/write for turrets.
    - Added LuaEntity::stickers read. The stickers attached to a given entity.
    - Added LuaEntityPrototype::crafting_speed read.
    - Added LuaEntityPrototype::drawing_box, sticker_box, flags, remains_when_mined, additional_pastable_entities, allow_copy_paste,
    shooting_cursor_size, created_smoke, created_effect, map_color, friendly_map_color, enemy_map_color, build_base_evolution_requirement read.
    - Added LuaEntityPrototype::get_inventory_size().
    - Added LuaEntityPrototype::ingredient_count read.
    - Added LuaEntityPrototype::module_inventory_size read.
    - Added LuaEquipmentGrid::get_contents, shield, and max_shield.
    - Added LuaFluidBox::owner read + get_capacity and get_connections methods.
    - Added LuaForce::evolution_factor.
    - Added LuaForce::is_chunk_visible().
    - Added LuaForce::set_friend/get_friend.
    - Added LuaGui::children read.
    - Added LuaGuiElement drop-down type.
    - Added LuaGuiElement type "camera".
    - Added LuaGuiElement type "choose-elem-button".
    - Added LuaGuiElement::children read.
    - Added LuaGuiElement::clear to remove all the contents of the element.
    - Added LuaGuiElement::single_line and want_ellipsis for the CustomLabel type.
    - Added LuaInventory::entity_owner, player_owner, and equipment_owner read.
    - Added LuaItemPrototype fuel_category, burnt_result, fuel_acceleration_multiplier, fuel_top_speed_multiplier read.
    - Added LuaLogisticNetwork::provider_points, empty_provider_points, requester_points, full_or_satisfied_requester_points, and storage_points read.
    - Added LuaLogisticPoint - read access to logistic data about provider, storage, and requester points.
    - Added LuaPlayer::add_alert, remove_alert, and get_alerts.
    - Added LuaPlayer::mute_alert, unmute_alert, is_alert_muted, enable_alert, disable_alert, is_alert_enabled.
    - Added LuaPlayer::opened write.
    - Added LuaPlayer::opened_gui_type read.
    - Added LuaRandomGenerator.
    - Added LuaSurface::destroy_decoratives and LuaSurface::create_decoratives.
    - Added LuaSurface::find_logistic_networks_by_construction_area(..).
    - Added LuaSurface::get_trains() and LuaForce::get_trains().
    - Added LuaSurface::regenerate_decorative().
    - Added LuaTrain::has_path, path_end_rail, and path_end_stop read + recalculate_path().
    - Added LuaTransportLine::operator[] and operator#.
    - Added Mod gui script for easy consistent styling of mod buttons and frames within the game.
    - Added mouse info to the gui clicked event.
    - Added on_biter_base_built - fires when biters build bases during migration.
    - Added on_entity_renamed - fires when an entity is renamed either by the player or through script.
    - Added on_gui_selection_state_changed - fires when an item in a drop-down gui element is selected.
    - Added on_market_item_purchased - fires when a player purchases something from a market entity.
    - Added on_player_changed_force - fires when a players force is changed.
    - Added on_player_dropped_item - fires when a player drops an item that results in an item-on-ground entity.
    - Added on_player_mined_entity and on_robot_mined_entity events.
    - Added on_runtime_mod_setting_changed event - fires when a player changes runtime mod settings.
    - Added on_selected_entity_changed - fires when the selected entity for a player changes.
    - Added on_surface_deleted, on_pre_surface_deleted, and on_surface_created events.
    - Added on_train_created event.
    - Added optional "surface" to LuaForce::chart_all().
    - Added optional fields "durability" and "ammo" when using SimpleItemStack definitions.
    - Added optional parameter "return_item_request_proxy" to LuaEntity::revive. If true and revive creates item request proxy, the proxy will be returned as the third value.
    - Added player_index to the entity settings pasted events.
    - Added remote interface functions for the rocket silo gui: add_tracked_item, remove_tracked_item, get_tracked_items, update_gui
    - Added remote interface to freeplay and sandbox scripts.
    - Added support for full copying LuaItemStack in most places that take the SimpleItemStack type.
    - Added support for LuaFlowStatistics read on electric poles.
    - Added support for specifying the "max_range" of a projectile when created through create_entity.
    - Added support for turret orientation read/write through LuaEntity::orientation.
    - Added the ability for mods to register commands.
    - Added the ability to read item_requests from item request proxy entities as well as ghosts.
    - Added the ability to read reach distances off the player or character entity.
    - Changed less_then to less_than in lua GUI progress bar style specification. (https://forums.factorio.com/33196)
    - Changed LuaEntity::item_requests to match the docs format.
    - Changed LuaEntity::passenger to work with both character entities and players.
    - Changed LuaEntityPrototype::underground_belt_distance to LuaEntityPrototype::max_underground_distance and changed it to work on both underground pipes and underground belts.
    - Changed LuaForce::clear_chart() to take an optional surface to clear the chart for.
    - Changed LuaSurface::create_entity{name="item-on-ground", stack=...} to accept the same format for item stacks as the rest of the Lua API.
    - Changed the player built event to include the item name used to do the building if possible and include the tags from the "item-with-tags" item if possible.
    - Changed LuaPlayer::clean_cursor to return true if the cursor is now empty.
    - Expanded LuaStyle read/write property support.
    - Fixed LuaSurface::spill_item_stack didn't interpret "enable_looted" parameter properly. (https://forums.factorio.com/38717)
    - LuaForce::reset() now resets everything about the force to the default state.
    - Mod events are now fired by the mod dependency order instead of the mod name starting with the scenario script.
    - Moved game.get_event_handler and game.raise_event to "script".
    - Removed Lua.coroutine due to potential exploits.
    - Removed LuaGameScript::evolution_factor.
    - Removed LuaGameScript::save/load.
    - Removed LuaPlayer::build_from_cursor + LuaPlayer::rotate_for_build as they aren't replay/MP safe.
    - Removed LuaSurface::get_tileproperties.
    - Removed LuaForce::item_resource_statistics and LuaForce::fluid_resource_statistics - they've been merged into the production versions.
    - The goal and left gui element has default direction vertical.
    - Utility sprites can be used in the sprite button.

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    - Added map-settings option when creating map, it can be used to specify a file with map settings to be used instead of the defaults.
    - Added preset option when creating map.


    Its really exciting! One feature that is simple but I really liked it's that the tank have a flamethrower now.
     
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  13. Lazing Dirk Arcane

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    Holy shit, that is one hell of a changelog. Looks like oil should be far less annoying, even before taking the cool new fluid tankers into account.

    • Changed evolution from global to per force.
    If that means what I think it means, that is a massive change to how expansion will work. I assume it means each biter base will have their own evolution level, so expanding out to new areas should mean you only encounter the tiny biters, which should make it a lot safer when setting up mining outposts and such, not to mention clearing outlying areas. I wonder if that means destroying all the nests around your base will reset them to 0 evolution.
     
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  14. anvi Scholar

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    Wow they did a lot more than I thought. I still wish the game had a better endgame.
     
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  15. Ironmonk Learned

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    Here is a commented changelog with a dev clarifying some points.



    It seems they decided to include Klonan's mod "Bergius Process" in the main game (aka "Coal Liquefaction", Coal to Oil), this helps a lot with excess of coal and shortage of oil.
     
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  16. Make America Great Again Blaine Cis-Het Oppressor

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    Pure wishful thinking. You just don't want it to be over, but every game has to be put down eventually. Factorio's design doesn't really allow for an outcome other than eventually reaching the point where you're churning out the most rarefied end product progressively faster and in greater quantities. If there were two ultimate and separate end products, or three, or four, it wouldn't change anything; putting them together, shipping them away, and/or "selling" them is cosmetic in the context of a game.

    Imagine an alien planet. An autistic child with Godlike powers lands there, and eventually, after thousands of years, he has neatly deconstructed every speck of the planet and sorted its constituent substances into hundreds of containers, each one reserved for a single element on the periodic table.

    That's how Factorio do, except the planet never runs out because it's not real (irrelevant) and we can put the containers of elements together into "rockets" and shoot them up into the sky.

    All Wube has done here is make it a bit more elaborate, dress it up a bit, but really nothing's changed. No one on Earth has actually described a workable, holistic alternative endgame for Factorio, although many are dissatisfied that it eventually just has to end abruptly when you get bored launching a lot of rockets. There's just nothing to be done about it.
     
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  17. anvi Scholar

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    No. There has been an endgame for ages, you launch the rocket and win. What I would want is for them to make more of the enemies. Have a mothership alien that you have to ultimately defeat and have more than a tank to fight it with. There is already a mod that does similar but it could be better.

    p.s. Who are all these people that watch 48 minute videos about a changelog?
     
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    I told myself I was going to wait for 1.0 before playing this game again but... so many juicy changes...
     
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  19. Lazing Dirk Arcane

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    Edit: Currently some bugs with steam cloud synchronisation. Either disable it or wait for them to fix it.
     
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  20. anvi Scholar

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    The only thing between now and 1.0 is some HD textures.
     
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  21. anvi Scholar

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    I would wait a few days though, patches for 0.15 and need all the must have mods to get tweaked for the update.
     
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  22. Make America Great Again Blaine Cis-Het Oppressor

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    Yes, you want more stuff. Making more stuff takes time and effort, and the stuff that we have now is already occupying all of Wube's time and effort.

    If they add more, stronger aliens and a final boss fight, then the game's going to end after that anyway and the total gameplay value will hardly have increased. Enemies aren't really the point of Factorio anyway, except as a logistical factor to take into account. In my view, more, bigger enemies and a UFO battle is a pretty bad suggestion that resembles the end of a Nintendo platformer, and I don't think that it would really satisfy anyone.

    For people who do need that sort of thing, there certainly will be mods and I'm glad those exist. The fact that you don't think the relevant mod is good enough is a hint; I believe you'll find none of them really satisfy you, because you want the MacGuffin to be made real, and that's just not going to happen even if Wube does it officially.
     
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  23. anvi Scholar

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    Imo you are an opinionated dimwit.
     
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  24. Make America Great Again Blaine Cis-Het Oppressor

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    Sure thing, dumbass. You and all the smart people should carry on whining about the endgame, and I'm sure it will be "fixed."

    It begins:

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