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Preview First Cyberpunk 2077 gameplay details revealed

Discussion in 'RPG News & Content' started by Infinitron, Jun 13, 2018.

  1. v1rus Arcane

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    My pleasure. Mind you, Im not some all knowing entity who came down to explain people how vidya work - those were just my personal observations and theories. They may change with time, or someone else suggesting more plausible arguments.


    We all love Planescape here brah :love:

    "Realistic" GFX or descriptions is a matter of preference probably. Both are valid, and powerful options when used properly, with its own set of advantages. Just like with FPP, TPP, Isometric camera, and everything else really.
     
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  2. Mr. Hiver Learned

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    In a thread about an action RPG, on a forum about RPGs (presumably).
    I mean, its not like i need more signals you are stupid.

    And guess what, different types and genres of games cannot all use same features and mechanics. Mind blown eh?

    No, no, no. You aint going to play a dumb victim to me.
    I obviously did read what you said and thats precisely the reason why that reply above you are now trying to avoid to answer.
    You cannot differentiate between content presented through a character and through your own pov, and mix the two without even realizing what you are doing.

    Shit fucking hell we aint son.
    You dont get to decide that. But if you are going to talk about some other type of games you can fuck right off from this thread and all RPG related ones.

    You provided no such shit, cretin. You just blurted out something stupid and now you are trying to avoid answering by playing a victim.

    Oh really? Im digressing from you talking about "games in general" and basing your arguments of invented features and gameplay that dont exist.
    Aint you a funny little shithead.

    Thats where your mass market brain is failing. You can play as yourself, or as a character. You cant play as a character that is you at the same time, thats just larping. Pretending.
    Especially if its not strengthened by any kind of character mechanics.

    That like playing Gordon Freeman "character".

    buhu fucking hu.
    Either defend your moronic arguments in the context or fuck off. Go and play a poor victim to your mom.

    NO IT FUCKING DOESNT!

    Because there is no game that appropriately simulates ALL a character other then you experiences, sees and knows and you sure as shit cannot telepathically feel and know all that just from being a stupid point of view in the air.


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    I am reading what your are posting you devolved imbecile.
    Thats exactly why you are getting those replies and this attempt to evade answering properly will only result in further exposure of how moronically stupid you are.

    Look here cretin, im going to repeat what i said very slowly so you get it:

    Its no fucking illustration of anything - because nobody ever did it or ever could do it. Its your idiotic hallucination that you imagine - BUT IT CANNOT BE DONE.
    Because it would only create further negative issues, like those i mentioned.

    There is no such capability as you are saying, IMBECILE. There is no such fucking thing.
    You just hallucinated something that cannot be done - moron!

    Or if it was done it would be a horrible mechanic. Which defeats its purpose.

    Of course Tpp and Isometric dont have that "capability", Nothing has it!
    And they dont need that "capability" at all.

    Try not to hallucinate what im telling you, although obviously you are one of those pretentious dunning kruger assholes who cant have a conversation without it.

    Exactly like gunplay constrains, distort and limits "your" shooting. Video games are artificial, and thus, are mimicking real life (look up mimesis, and while you are at it, diegesis) thus their representations are naturally limited and distorted.[/QUOTE]
    I guess i have to repeat every answer several times so that devolved skull of yours gets it through to that shriveled excuse for a brain rotting inside.

    1. WE WERE NOT DISCUSSING FIDELITY OF SIMULATION QUALITY.

    2. If we accept what you are saying here... you just defeated your previous argument about advantages of FP.

    Taking all that in consideration, its no wonder you prefer FP.
    Low intelligent cretins always do.
     
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  3. Mr. Hiver Learned

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    Nah, you are failing to comprehend that talking about "theoretical posibilites" you pulled out of your ass means shit as an argument about advantages and "amazing effects" FP has.

    You are evidently just... too FUCKING STUPID to get it, and so automatically fall for "oh im so smart that other guy doesnt undersaaand meee" lie you tell yourself.


    But by controlling strategy and meta options, you did override the capabilities of character abilities, cause dumb ogre knows only how to "ME SMASH" because of his 3 int, and you, the player, certainly perceive more complex tactics no matter how intelligent you are. You can ignore what you perceived and act like an idiot in order to roleplay, in the same vein you can ignore subtle NPC cues in my "UberUltraCool TM" dialogue system.

    And I already wrote this exact same thing in the part of the post you quoted. Read what I'm writing, not what you want to read.[/QUOTE]

    Eh, no. :)

    Welcome to my little trap.
    And that happened because your Int is so low. haha.

    First of all, Int in that case isnt a combat skill. It wasnt designed to affect combat and it doesnt.

    What it was designed to do is to affect other things, like dialogue and similar things. Which you cannot override.
    Ogres on the other hand are naturally talented in brute combat - which their skills abilities and traits support. Which is why you can control strategic meta part while his abilities control execution.

    ASSHOLE. :)

    btw, RPGs are not games where characters control everything. Which is why the player has a certain kind of influence on characters performance. Less in case of True RPGs, more in case of action RPGs and various hybrids.
     
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  4. Ruzen Learned

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    I mean even POV porn are more popular these days. So first person is more logical to reach wider audience
     
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  5. HeatEXTEND Arbiter

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  6. v1rus Arcane

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    You are one of those people who would scream "MAN IS NEVER GONNA BE ABEL TO FLY RETTAADDRS" before the airplane was invented, arent you?

    Seems like we both suffer from a case of that, huh. One of us is prolly right tho.

    It truly is your little trap, but in a way I dont think you realize.

    Anyway, I feel like everything that needs to be presented to you, has been presented. Perhaps I missed a point or two, but thats cause your posting style is difficult to follow thanks to the overabundance of... your poetic expression. Was certainly a pleasure to experience the legendary hiver himself in person. All the myths and stories of your deeds and capabilities were certainly true :salute:


    Oh, yes I do get to decide what am I or am I not going to talk about with you. Watch me doing it. :happytrollboy:
     
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  7. Bumvelcrow Bellator Sempervirens Patron

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    Codex 2013 Codex 2014 Shadorwun: Hong Kong Divinity: Original Sin 2 BattleTech Bubbles In Memoria A Beautifully Desolate Campaign Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire
    I don't soil my signature with pronouncements from the Codex massive, but if I did this would be the one.
     
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  8. Quantomas Learned

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    That's an interview done right.

    Love that a creator gets his vision fulfilled. Mike Pondsmith has obviously put a ton of work in this. Good to see that CDPR respects him. Speaks well of both and bodes well for the game.

    Ruzen Thanks for sharing it here.
     
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  9. Shilandra Educated

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    The man in the superman shirt makes me very uncomfortable.

    As an aside, After 24 hours with no sleep is breathing through your nose and feeling pain in only half of your head just regular old sleep deprivation or the early warning signs of a stroke?
     
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  10. Roygbiv Literate

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    Any chance of wasteland gameplay? I seriously doubt they'll include the nomads, but it could present an interesting alternative to the classic neon lights meme, that cyberpunk has become so closely associated with.
     
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  11. Rinslin Merwind Educated

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    In trailer there was mentioning that city, where main character live, was "worst city in America to live". I not sure, but it could meant that in other places life better (in another words not wastelands). However, I can be wrong.
     
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  12. Mr. Hiver Learned

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    Nah, but you are one of those assholes who cant discuss anything without trying to evade answering by using false equivalences and idiotic strawmans.

    Btw, men are still incapable of flying. Airplanes do, but not men. Get your fallacies in order.

    Nah, its only you. Because you just cant come up with any single actual answer or argument.

    Oh, gosh... i wish i could telepathically understand what you are implying there! :lol:

    Another pathetic attempt to evade answering. You sure did present a lot of those and several idiotic arguments you cannot defend.

    Hey, but by using a few "difficult words" you managed to convince other morons you are smart.

    Attempts to seem snarky while asskissing are first grade low level shit. (of elementary school, not the high school)
    As are all the replies you made where you proved incapable of giving actual arguments but instead went for just ... implying various dumb stuff, while not even being able to outright say what you mean.

    Thats not deciding what we are going to talk about, just you. And its basically turning tail, again. After dozens of same retreats.
    Running away from a challenge - again, a second time, is just overkill.
    The point that escaped you is you cant talk about such features of games but avoid talking about what specific genres are made of and just evade and run away.

    This is the only actually correct thing you said in this whole thread.

    Although some of those specific mechanics fit better and enhance main features of specific types of games.
     
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  13. Roygbiv Literate

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    Shit, i hope we get to see it, but I'm not holding my breath tbh.
     
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  14. Mebrilia Learned

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    Pretty much depends also how the first person is done... the first mirror ege had the camera of the character on the head all the majority of the other fpp games you are basically a floating head with arms stuck on your cheeck... You costantly see your hands like the character is retarded and walk with the hands costantly on front of the face... When aiming with a pistol seems that the character stick his hand on his check to shoot...or in the cause of doom the hand comes out straight from your nose.... Some retard find this immersive i find it idiotic.... Many fpp game also have this stupid over the top head bobbing animation like if character were running in penguin style...
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    Also you lack awareness most of the time.. Something that in RL you have and in a first person game you don't have... The real immersive first person is VR but games in VR are super cluncky to play
     
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  15. lukaszek Arcane

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    are you saying that i cant have 3rd cybernetic arm in cyberpunk for best shooting experience?
     
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  16. Mebrilia Learned

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    I am just saying that if first person were truly implemented in immersive way now we would have less shooters around i find first person immersive only when reflect a true first person and not a floating head with arms.. SO the whole argument.. FIrst person is more immersion vary from person to person is subjective really.
     
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  17. Sothpaw Learned

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    3rd person perspective is shit for shooters. CDPR made the correct choice. Combat has always been shit in the Witcher games and fp will make it much easier for CDPR to implement at least decent combat.

    Also that trailer was as good as trailers get.
     
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  18. Aim1ess Literate

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    So why do you think fallout 1 zooms in to talking heads for important characters? Almost as if you are talking to them face to face?

    Also, your comparison kind of shows you don't even know what you're debating. No one said FP in a shit game would be more immersive than TP in a great game. That's just retarded.
     
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  19. Mebrilia Learned

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    Depends on the first person again for how they are describing the game seems to me that they wanted to obtain a more personal dramatic approach using first person to make people experience more. A choice that i can agree with they seems also to have designed the game around that wich make sense. But they make a mistake first person is restrictive this is why you don't usually have a lot of customization in first person rpg.Customization is one of the key feature the fan of the pen and paper were looking for is also part of the 4 important points of the setting itself... Being stuck to watch your hand all the time kinda make pointless customization.

    Again people are not complaining that the action is done in first person.. or the gameplay is in third person people are complain because they want to see their character in third person roaming the street. If cd project implemented first person with a toggle or also forced first person in combat nobody were complaining.

    The decision they made alienated a lot of hardcore pen and paper fan and that is an issue.
     
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  20. lukaszek Arcane

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    btw, we are getting there:
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  21. Mebrilia Learned

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    Interesting and informative video
     
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  22. lukaszek Arcane

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    is it you?
     
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  23. Mr. Hiver Learned

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    If you see your own eye plucked out its ... more immersive from FP perspective... ffs...
     
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  24. Naraya Savant

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    This video is a really good work by Outstar. I'd hate to see false hype build up since it always leads to disappointment. It's much better to be honest and dispel lies and ridiculous misconceptions ASAP.
     
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  25. Aim1ess Literate

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    Hearing it will have multiplayer anything is an unfortunate development. Whether its going to be there at first or not if they know they are going to do something eventually they will have that in the back of their head when making development decisions. Hype dialing back down. Still gonna buy the song from the trailer though, that shit was great. Probably watch the trailer a few more times too.
     
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