Games with cities that actually feel big?

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Such original names, those.

GTA4, Mafia, Bully and Prototype don't count because the whole gameworld is the city.

I agree, Ultima games, Arcanum, and Baldur's Gate all feel completely gigantic. To a point, it's actually a weakness (navigating them can get awkward and tedious sometimes), but Baldur's Gate (the city) or Tarant feel far bigger and more lively than most 3D cities I've seen in games.

Arcanum especially gives an immense sense of size because of just how many locations there are on the world map and how big some of them are once you actually "jump in." The fact that you can theoretically cross the entire world without technically even using the world map is something that still blows my mind.

You don't get to make the rules here, you're not the thread creator.

Every city of Ultima Online.

Baldur's gate and Athkatla
Downtown L.A in Bloodlines
GTA's cities are big, but mostly empty.

Name of the game plz?

Arcanum, city of Tarant.

Looks like shit - must be Arcanum.

Zoom out to the max do that to your vision.

You are not refined at all

I shall immediately rectify that mistake. Arcanum is on my todo list, but being a combatfag....

The Saboteur.

Prince of Persia: Two Thrones.

Mirror's Edge.

Arcanum has plenty of combat actually, it's just kinda shitty in that regard. Still, you can make an appropriate character.

Bätmän: Arkham City

Arcanum could've been great if they actually polished it, and picked turn-based and balanced solely for that. As it stands it's just so broken but with plenty of actual options. (That you don't care about because it's broken.) You also have to ignore that your character doesn't NEED to be magic or tech, as you can play many other flavors of melee and ranged.

This is heresy but I'll mention the city from the first Witcher game. It didn't feel centered on my player, therefore it always felt like there was more than was just being shown.

That's the point. I've quit the first time because I couldn't stand the combat, but eventually I will get over it. The setting is what really turn me on.

GTA San Andreas

Unlike all other GTA's, the whole gameworld is not only a city.

Not heresy.

So they don't count as games that have big cities because they have big cities?


Also even if Infinitron's favourite game had 2 buildings in the middle of an empty field it would still count as having a big city.

Wat? I'm not even entirely sure what my favorite game is.

Legends of Valour - one, big city. Plus some dungeons under. Nightmarish experience, even if you are equipped with map from game instruction.

Edit: Ok, there's a scan of map from instruction:

If you count a long corridor as a big city, then Rapture.

I think the Yakuza games are pretty much the best at this. The imaginary Tokyo neighborhood depicted isn't that big, but it does such a fantastic job of presenting a living, breathing city to you that actually feels menacing, with tons and tons and tons of stuff to do, and sidequests that force you to get into the heart of it. As you visit the same relative environment from game to game it really gives the place a ton of character. There just is no other game that even approaches it.

Also when it comes to this, I need to suspend my disbelief. I'm always really miffed when I am able to see the entirety of the town, I prefer when all I can see is a small portion of it. I think that Tales games are pretty much like this.