Deus Ex GMDX: Deus Ex Advancement Mod v9 Released!

[Ash]

Cool, keep us posted.

Keep the "interaction auto holster" option (found in the settings menu) disabled as it can cause an annoying (purely visual) bug.

 

[Ash]

Found an opinion from a non-codexer: https://www.reddit.com/r/pcgaming/c..._the_most_hours_youve_played_on_steam/d04drp7

And special mention at no. 4 would be Deus Ex, the original, at 101 hours. I think I'm on my third or fourth playthrough at this point, and I don't need to tell you why its one of the best games ever made. Right now I'm using what I consider to be the definitive and best mod for Deus Ex, GMDX. It just improves on the game in so many ways that no other mod has done before. Screw Revision, GMDX is where its at. It makes the AI an actual challenge in comparison to the original, it adds so many little quality of life things such as being able to stand on your tippy toes by holding down both q and e at the same time, general UI things like being able to drag and drop items more efficiently and allowing for double clicking of items to use them, rebalancing things like weapons and augs and making skills like swimming (now athletics) actually useful, more particle effects, more interactivity with the environment, there's things like perks in the skill trees to allow for even further customization, they've made it so every time someone dies the same ridiculous "AUGHHHHH!" sound doesn't play, but a variety of sounds can paly instead. There's an amazing hardcore mode that only has checkpoints, disables quicksaving and the menus don't pause time, and they've added in a stamina bar that completely changes up how you move about the world, so you cant just run everywhere to avoid guards or constantly throw stuff at people or hit them with batons, you have to take into account your actions carefully. The mod just adds a huge layer of complexity on an already complex and amazing game, and adds some amazing QoL fixes to go with it. It makes one of the greatest games of all time even better by fixing pretty much all of the original game's flaws. I could go on and on. Right now I'm holding off continuing to play it, because supposedly in the next update they're going to replace the vanilla hilarious shitty running animations with motion captured ones. This is such a small change, but by god I feel that it would just improve the feel of the game so much. However, theres a chance it might not even be possible to add in the animations, so it might not be coming any time soon, but still, it's nice to see what they have in store regardless.

 

[Kontra]

Also, where abouts are you desiring to return to? Which map/s?

Which maps? Well the one where you have to locate Nicolette Duclare, that one had the most content i guess. Or the first one, with the condemned building. That was weird- a woman gives you a quest to kill 4 greasels and return to her. But the way its set up, the last greasel is at the bottom of the building in the sewers and you have to pass through an irradiated area on your way. So now your supposed to go back all the way up. Whos gonna do that? You want to see whats up ahead not go back. This way it would at least feel fresh. I dont know.

You know its just how i play it, i go where the wind blows. I dont have this urge to explore everything in one go. But Paris is different in the way that when youre done with a map its gone so you better do everything. I guess i dont like that pressure, i like to go about at my on pace. Whatever in the end you can always just do everything and move on so its not a big deal.

 

[Ash]

Yes, definitely understandable.

As for the greasel quest, you don't have to pass through the second irradiated area. the quest basically plays out the same as it did vanilla, just slightly more challenging.

 

[Sigourn]

Can anyone explain, plain and simple, what's the biggest difference goal-wise between GMDX and Revision? Moreover, I know GMDX includes the two main graphic mods for Deus Ex, but what about Revision? I'll still be playing vanilla game first (albeit with New Vision and HDTP), but I would like to know in advance.

EDIT: It appears both mods include both graphics mods (HDTP and New Vision), is that correct?

 

[Kontra]

Plain and simple GMDX is Deus Ex if the devs had 1 more year to work on the game. So dont play vanilla game first, why would you do that? Just play GMDX. The only question is which version V7 or V8. If youre a purist then go with 7 but if you dont mind some extra mechanics that werent intended by the devs then go with 8. Its the better version anyway with better AI and pretty much everything else.
Dont know about Revision but judging by the name it doesnt sound good... I dont know play it last.
Yeah they both have HDTP and NV except GMDX lack some HD character models for some technical reasons but you dont need them anyway because they suck.

 

[Sigourn]

Plain and simple GMDX is Deus Ex if the devs had 1 more year to work on the game. So dont play vanilla game first, why would you do that? Just play GMDX. The only question is which version V7 or V8. If youre a purist then go with 7 but if you dont mind some extra mechanics that werent intended by the devs then go with 8. Its the better version anyway with better AI and pretty much everything else.
Dont know about Revision but judging by the name it doesnt sound good... I dont know play it last.
Yeah they both have HDTP and NV except GMDX lack some HD character models for some technical reasons but you dont need them anyway because they suck.

Oh, I play vanilla if only because it is the game that everyone played once. Feels weird otherwise, plus it's always better I feel to play vanilla to better appreciate the mods afterwards.

 

[zwanzig_zwoelf]

So dont play vanilla game first, why would you do that?

Are you dumb?
Vanilla Deus Ex is one of the best games ever made.

what about Revision?

Play Revision if you're one of these retarded kids who can't play games made before 2011 because of graphics.

 

[Sigourn]

Play Revision if you're one of these retarded kids who can't play games made before 2011 because of graphics.

So it only changes the graphics? I read it makes many changes "worldbuilding" wise.

So basically GMDX would be the "gameplay overhaul" and Revision the "questionable graphics overhaul"?

 

[Ash]

So basically GMDX would be the "gameplay overhaul"....

GMDX does: gameplay, bug patching, audio design, level design, and to a lesser extent graphics. Simulation design too although that often comes under a bit everything, but not always. Also upgrades the user interface mostly with a focus on function (so gameplay), but not always.

Basically it does a bit of everything in varying degrees except plot and soundtrack. It was all a matter of context to me: improve what demanded work, leave what was perfect. The primary focus was indeed gameplay, but labeling it a gameplay mod doesn't do it justice since it does so much more.

The following videos demonstrate the focus of the mod:

Spoiler

Part 1: Artificial Intelligence: https://youtu.be/rKHPtfammNY
Part 2: Player-Controlled Mechanics: https://youtu.be/ny0wLI-ZWOY
Part 3: Simulated Systems and Effects: https://youtu.be/lsOoTF5TL0Y
Part 4: Weaponry: https://youtu.be/T-bSLkfzWYc
Part 5: RPG Systems: https://youtu.be/yrIPhQBRMfs
Part 6: Level Design & Graphics: https://youtu.be/bpzXECyTQJ0
Part 7: Audio Design & UI: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OS-qj6iT-aQ
Part 8: Preferences & Misc: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huDkZIzrZHs

 

[Sigourn]

GMDX does: gameplay, bug patching, audio design, level design, and to a lesser extent graphics. Simulation design too although that often comes under a bit everything, but not always. Also upgrades the user interface mostly with a focus on function (so gameplay), but not always.

Basically it does a bit of everything in varying degrees except plot and soundtrack. It was all a matter of context to me: improve what demanded work, leave what was perfect. The primary focus was indeed gameplay, but labeling it a gameplay mod doesn't do it justice since it does so much more.

The following videos demonstrate the focus of the mod:

Spoiler

Part 1: Artificial Intelligence: https://youtu.be/rKHPtfammNY
Part 2: Player-Controlled Mechanics: https://youtu.be/ny0wLI-ZWOY
Part 3: Simulated Systems and Effects: https://youtu.be/lsOoTF5TL0Y
Part 4: Weaponry: https://youtu.be/T-bSLkfzWYc
Part 5: RPG Systems: https://youtu.be/yrIPhQBRMfs
Part 6: Level Design & Graphics: https://youtu.be/bpzXECyTQJ0
Part 7: Audio Design & UI: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OS-qj6iT-aQ
Part 8: Preferences & Misc: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huDkZIzrZHs

Thanks! I'll be sure to watch them soon.

 

[Kontra]

Are you dumb?
Vanilla Deus Ex is one of the best games ever made.

Yeah vanilla DX is one of the best games but playing a better version, hows that dumb? Its not dumb. Its like if you patched the game, its the same thing just better. So why would you play without the patch. If you go by that logic then the alpha build of DX form 1999 or whatever is the best version even though none of us played it.

 

[zwanzig_zwoelf]

Are you dumb?
Vanilla Deus Ex is one of the best games ever made.

Yeah vanilla DX is one of the best games but playing a better version, hows that dumb? Its not dumb. Its like if you patched the game, its the same thing just better. So why would you play without the patch. If you go by that logic then the alpha build of DX form 1999 or whatever is the best version even though none of us played it.

Beating the vanilla game at least allows to appreciate the changes made in these mods and understand why this game is good in the first place, bruh.
Also, if you want to play Deus Ex 0.5, go play Cybermage. It's flawed as fuck, but hub levels, vehicles and all that stuff makes it a curious example of how Deus Ex would perform if it was designed with Doom-like engine in mind.

 

[Kontra]

I dont know... Its too old.

 

[Ninjerk]

 

[Dev_Anj]

Its like if you patched the game, its the same thing just better. So why would you play without the patch. If you go by that logic then the alpha build of DX form 1999 or whatever is the best version even though none of us played it.

But GMDX is not "Deus Ex but better", it's effectively Deus Ex with lots of substantial changes, even though the author says he aims to "stay true to the design principles of the original." If a newcomer plays it first, he/she will never understand what GMDX changed and what was the base design of the original, and this will make him/her biased. GMDX definitely has stuff where it takes liberties with the original, like some security bots being super fast, having rockets and cloaking even though they're supposed to be the most basic robots, the secondary weapon functionality, the alt firing modes of the GEP gun, some augmentations being passive and more. While I do like most of these changes there's no point in pretending this is what the original developers intended or put in.

 

[Sigourn]

Yeah vanilla DX is one of the best games but playing a better version, hows that dumb? Its not dumb. Its like if you patched the game, its the same thing just better. So why would you play without the patch. If you go by that logic then the alpha build of DX form 1999 or whatever is the best version even though none of us played it.

I understand what you mean. However, there's a difference between patching a game and completely overhauling it. The first one is an unofficial patch: it fixes what is broken, it ensures the core experience is untouched. Now, the second one is a mod. GMDX is not a patch, it is a mod. For all I care, Deus Ex and GMDX are two different games, even if GMDX is a very, very good (from what I've heard) game.

 

[Ninjerk]

There's definitely a good decade+ of hindsight added in GMDX. Playing it vanilla is probably better if you want to get inside the minds of the creator or the late 90s FPS paradigm. If you're not the type of person that would be interested in watching Battleship Potemkin for obvious reasons, then you're likely to prefer GMDX for your first run.

 

[Kontra]

Playing it vanilla is probably better if you want to get inside the minds of the creator or the late 90s FPS paradigm.

Well, i agree with that but why would you do it, unless youre some kinda video game historian or if youre an FBI profiler and Warren Spector was a serial killer. But if you just wanna play a more fun game then you just gotta go with GMDX.

 

[Ninjerk]

Playing it vanilla is probably better if you want to get inside the minds of the creator or the late 90s FPS paradigm.

Well, i agree with that but why would you do it, unless youre some kinda video game historian or if youre an FBI profiler and Warren Spector was a serial killer. But if you just wanna play a more fun game then you just gotta go with GMDX.

Do you know what website you're on? I'm sure someone can point you to Neofag if you're lost.

 

[KlauZ]

So i always wondered but couldn`t find any info on the question - people`s asses are the weakpoints, even Navarre dies with one hit. Is this a bug? A feature?

 

[Kontra]

Do you know what website you're on? I'm sure someone can point you to Neofag if you're lost.

No need to use the N word man... And you know this site isnt as hardcore as you think. People here play Fallout 4 just like on NG except here they do it for "scientific research" as someone said... Yeah theyre taking the bullet for the rest of us. On NG at least they can be honest about it and just do it in the open like wild animals. And you cant blame animals because what do they know. Theyr just animals. But people here should know better.

So i always wondered but couldn`t find any info on the question - people`s asses are the weakpoints, even Navarre dies with one hit. Is this a bug? A feature?

In DX peoples heads and asses are the same thing, you get 8 times the damage. Dont know why. Maybe its some kinda statement from Warren Spector like people have their heads in their asses or something. Hmm i guess i would have to play vanilla game to really get inside his brain and figure it out.

 

[zwanzig_zwoelf]

In DX peoples heads and asses are the same thing, you get 8 times the damage

WHAT?

Gotta replay Deus Ex again.

Spoiler

Actually, I think it was done so the player won't need to stand up every time he sneaks behind the enemy to knock him out.

 

[Jaesun]

Hitting ass and head OH GAWD IT IZ HEVAN!!!111

 

[Kontra]

In DX peoples heads and asses are the same thing, you get 8 times the damage

WHAT?

Gotta replay Deus Ex again.

Spoiler

Actually, I think it was done so the player won't need to stand up every time he sneaks behind the enemy to knock him out.

That makes sense. Its a bit too convenient though. It would be better if you just had to stand up and hit the head but be real quick about it.