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metallix said:
chakl is such a moron.

damn sol is also fucking acting retarded.


anyways, jenny link them to this topic. but no, it might undermine your position on hgl, huh? double standarts and all that jazz..

i did link them to it. there was actually a whole other conversation about it afterwards. ask Naked_Lunch or Nicolai to paste the logs if you want, i got bored and left halfway through it.
 

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I don't keep logs but here's an approximation of what happened

Sol: LOL VD SUCKS
Chakl: u r right sol, my god I want your hawt dick
Naked_Lunch: Guys, stop being such complete BNOLs. VD's game actually looks good and is probably going to be the only worthwhile RPG to play in a long time.
Nicolai: Peradventure
Sol: YA BUT STILL VD SUCKS LOL HE PHOTOSHOPED THE WHOLE THING IT'S LIKE ATHEISM
Chakl: u r so right sol
Nicolai: Peradventure
Naked_Lunch: He's posted screenshots and concept art and concrete game info. Why would he be making all this up? He's a respected member of the community and has shown to be passionate about RPGs and seems that making one would be a life goal of his. Now are you going to tell me this is all a sham?
Sol: THE CODEX IS GOING DOWN THE TOILET
chakl: lol u r so right sol
 

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per·ad·ven·ture Audio pronunciation of "peradventure" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (pûrd-vnchr, pr-)
adv. Archaic

Perhaps; perchance.


n.

Chance or uncertainty; doubt.
 

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This is probably it. Can't really see any reason for as to why anyone would want to read it (and I can certainly not be arsed to remove any of the non-relevant parts), but I figured that I'd post it anyway since Jennifer lost her legs and all.

[22:51:08] <@Jennyfer> btw, VD replied to my posting of the earlier AoD conversation: http://www.rpgcodex.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=12066
[22:51:20] <Supertongue> COMPROMISED
[22:51:32] <@SolInvictus-> I dont know man.
[22:51:41] <@SolInvictus-> im not bent out of shape or nothing, just curious is all
[22:52:25] <@chakl|w00t> he avoided every question
[22:52:32] <@chakl|w00t> and then didnt respond to any of the mentions to krazy K
[22:52:42] * @Jennyfer shrug
[22:52:44] <@Jennyfer> i don't care anymore
[22:52:52] <Naked_Lunch> No offense, REx, but VD raped your ass in that thread
[22:53:00] <@Jennyfer> just thought i'd mention it
[22:53:00] * @SolInvictus- clicks on the AOD link
[22:53:00] <@chakl|w00t> naked no he didnt
[22:53:16] <Supertongue> Who is the man behind the internet mask
[22:53:17] <Naked_Lunch> yes he did, chakl
[22:53:17] <@chakl|w00t> he didnt say anything useful
[22:53:17] <@chakl|w00t> nothing
[22:53:19] <@chakl|w00t> and thanks for bashing me with completely false info
[22:53:21] <Naked_Lunch> I'm not a big fan of VD, but I respect him for his opinions and the fact he's gonna make a seirously kick ass game
[22:53:48] <@chakl|w00t> mis information ftw
[22:53:48] <@chakl|w00t> he isnt making crap
[22:53:48] <@chakl|w00t> kthx
[22:53:48] <Naked_Lunch> WHAT DO YOU KNOW?
[22:53:48] <@chakl|w00t> everything
[22:53:48] <Naked_Lunch> You don't even go on the fucking Codex
[22:53:48] <@chakl|w00t> remember i am omniscient
[22:53:49] <@chakl|w00t> for a reason
[22:53:58] <@SolInvictus-> "What, now I have to prove something to someone? Too funny."
[22:53:59] <@SolInvictus-> So basically... he has nothing to show for it.
[22:54:07] <@chakl|w00t> photoshop ftw
[22:54:07] <@SolInvictus-> gg.
[22:54:13] <Naked_Lunch> he does
[22:54:17] <Supertongue> Not counting the dozens of screenshots?
[22:54:19] <@SolInvictus-> Photoshop, lol.
[22:54:22] <@SolInvictus-> Remember Trinity?
[22:54:26] <@SolInvictus-> All that shit was photoshopped.
[22:54:28] <Supertongue> Yeah, I read the log
[22:54:29] <@SolInvictus-> And it looked way more 'real' than his stuff.
[22:54:32] <Naked_Lunch> or the concrete info he's given me
[22:54:32] <Supertongue> He wants input, that's all
[22:54:41] <@SolInvictus-> He doesnt even have a name for his studio
[22:54:45] <@SolInvictus-> or a site.
[22:54:45] <@SolInvictus-> Or anything.
[22:54:49] <Supertongue> I'm sure that his game will be released a few years down the line
[22:54:49] <Naked_Lunch> he uses the forums
[22:54:52] <@SolInvictus-> He jsut uses the forum to pimp his nonexistent game.
[22:54:58] <Naked_Lunch> well, that is rather silly to not have a site now
[22:55:01] <Supertongue> Now now, let's not be silly.
[22:55:02] <Naked_Lunch> but he is making the game
[22:55:13] <@chakl|w00t> i doubt it
[22:55:20] <@chakl|w00t> if he dissapears a year down the line
[22:55:20] <Supertongue> Why bother with making websites now?
[22:55:24] <@chakl|w00t> i will just be all hur hur hur
[22:55:32] <@chakl|w00t> a website costs nothing
[22:55:34] <@chakl|w00t> nothing/.
[22:55:38] <Supertongue> That stuff can be done when the game is a few months away from release
[22:55:46] <@chakl|w00t> stop defending the guy
[22:55:49] <Naked_Lunch> chakl, you are quite possibly the biggest moron I've met in my life
[22:56:02] <Supertongue> I'm not defending the guy, I just find it to be strange that you guys are bashing him.
[22:56:02] <@chakl|w00t> what have you seen?
[22:56:02] <Naked_Lunch> Screens
[22:56:02] <Naked_Lunch> game info
[22:56:02] <@chakl|w00t> NL what have you seen of substance?
[22:56:02] <Naked_Lunch> concrete game info
[22:56:09] <@Jennyfer> why should we? you're the ones calling him a liar with absolutely no basis in evidence
[22:56:09] <@chakl|w00t> have you seen anything of substance?
[22:56:11] <@chakl|w00t> i can show you dawn
[22:56:21] <Supertongue> Personally, I don't need any concrete prove of the game's existence.
[22:56:22] <@Jennyfer> you can not like the guy, but to make baseless accusations is just stupid
[22:56:30] <Supertongue> I'll probably not even play it unless WW releases it
[22:56:38] <@chakl|w00t> dude.
[22:56:39] <@chakl|w00t> Dawn
[22:56:54] <@Jennyfer> you keep pointing to other games as evidence that he's not making this one
[22:56:56] <@Jennyfer> that just doesn't work
[22:56:59] <Supertongue> Hah, "prove"? Make that "proof".
[22:57:02] <@SolInvictus-> Jennyfer: It's like atheism.
[22:57:06] <@Jennyfer> just because some games don't get released doesn't mean his won't
[22:57:11] <Naked_Lunch> I'm gonna get the game, Nic
[22:57:11] <Naked_Lunch> don't you worrt
[22:57:11] <@chakl|w00t> screens?
[22:57:13] <Naked_Lunch> worry*
[22:57:13] <@chakl|w00t> game info?
[22:57:15] <@chakl|w00t> design doc?
[22:57:15] <@chakl|w00t> DAwn
[22:57:19] <@SolInvictus-> To say that you're making something, that you believe in something, or whatever - you carry the burden of providing proof.
[22:57:21] <@chakl|w00t> Dawn.
[22:57:34] <@chakl|w00t> krazy K said he was going to make something
[22:57:38] <Naked_Lunch> HE HAS PROVIDED PROOF
[22:57:39] <@chakl|w00t> he has something to show for it a week down the line
[22:57:48] <Supertongue> Krazy K made some small flash game, no?
[22:57:50] <@chakl|w00t> a real game engine
[22:57:50] <@Jennyfer> this is the most ridiculous argument i've ever seen
[22:57:50] <Naked_Lunch> he's made tons of screens, released a bunch of concept art and game screens
[22:58:00] <Supertongue> Kinda like that Half-Life sidescroller
[22:58:01] <@SolInvictus-> If an atheist says "Hey man, your religion is retarded. Prove that Xenu exists" can't say that the atheist is making a "baseless accusation" because ... i mean... wtf
[22:58:09] <Naked_Lunch> HE HAS PROVED IT EXISTS AND THAT HE'S WORKING ON IT
[22:58:11] <@SolInvictus-> Yeah Nico, still in development.
[22:58:22] <@chakl|w00t> Naked_Lunch: Has he shown the game engine to anybody?
[22:58:27] <@chakl|w00t> like a fiunctioning game engine?
[22:58:31] <@chakl|w00t> cus thats teh first step
[22:58:32] <@chakl|w00t> not screeneies
[22:58:32] <Naked_Lunch> he's using the garage games engine
[22:58:38] <@SolInvictus-> Come on Jenny if someone said they believed in santa claus and that santa claus is real and I said "prove it" you can't say I'm making a baseless accusation
[22:59:11] <Supertongue> Well, I can't see any reason for as to why the game shouldn't be real.
[22:59:11] <Naked_Lunch> The question is, why would he make this all up anyway?
[22:59:11] <@Jennyfer> rex, this is different
[22:59:11] <Naked_Lunch> if he indeed was
[22:59:11] <@SolInvictus-> It's not. It's the same.
[22:59:11] <@Jennyfer> he's given proof, you're just saying it's not enough
[22:59:11] <@SolInvictus-> He has nothing to show for it save a few screenshots and some game info. It's been done before iwth Dawn, Trinity.
[22:59:11] <@chakl|w00t> why would mariena claim he was a woman
[22:59:11] <@chakl|w00t> same shit
[22:59:11] <@SolInvictus-> And a dozen other vaporware titles.
[22:59:15] <@Jennyfer> yeah exactly
[22:59:18] <Supertongue> Perhaps if this had been some random chap
[22:59:20] <@Jennyfer> you're making a supposition that just doesn't make any sense
[22:59:25] <@Jennyfer> he has no reason to lie
[22:59:26] <Supertongue> But VD is a respected member of the community
[22:59:32] <@Jennyfer> you, however, have any reason to smear him
[22:59:33] <@chakl|w00t> of codex
[22:59:36] <@Jennyfer> so who are we gonna trust here?
[22:59:38] <@Jennyfer> every*
[22:59:40] <Supertongue> And pulling a stunt like this would be retarded, really.
[22:59:45] <@chakl|w00t> i have no reason to smear him
[22:59:47] <@SolInvictus-> Making a logical argument as to why the game "Is real, because there's no reason as to why it shouldn't be real" isn't a valid argument.
[22:59:50] <@chakl|w00t> i am going by what i see
[23:00:00] <@chakl|w00t> i dont care for the codex
[23:00:01] <+Neutronstar> this hurts my brain
[23:00:03] <@chakl|w00t> i rarely bash it.
[23:00:15] <@chakl|w00t> but when someone says something
[23:00:16] <Supertongue> It works for me.
[23:00:20] <@Jennyfer> it's the same argument you're making, rex. you don't have any more evidence than i do
[23:00:28] <@chakl|w00t> i expect some sort of backing
[23:00:31] <Supertongue> All right, prove that you're the playboy you make yourself out to be, Chakl.
[23:00:36] <@chakl|w00t> i did
[23:00:37] <@SolInvictus-> I just want to see evidence of his game. A tech demo or something. Anything tangible.
[23:00:39] <@chakl|w00t> many times
[23:00:41] <Supertongue> Not to me. B)
[23:00:43] <@Jennyfer> if you can prove that the screenshots are photoshopped, that's one thing
[23:00:48] <Naked_Lunch> Ask him for it then, Rex
[23:00:49] <@Jennyfer> otherwise you're just talking out of your ass
[23:00:56] <@chakl|w00t> there are others who can attest to my greatness
[23:01:06] <Naked_Lunch> I suppose the concept art is totally photoshopped, too
[23:01:07] <@SolInvictus-> I don't have to prove anything. I'm the one asking for tangible proof of his game.
[23:01:13] <Supertongue> Do you have any tangible proof that supports your claims, Chakl?
[23:01:16] * @Jennyfer sigh
[23:01:18] <@chakl|w00t> My car.
[23:01:19] <@SolInvictus-> What you're asking for is proof of the nonexistence of god.
[23:01:20] <Naked_Lunch> you don't get it
[23:01:21] <@chakl|w00t> My business
[23:01:25] <@chakl|w00t> my house
[23:01:25] <@chakl|w00t> my gf
[23:01:27] <Naked_Lunch> you just don't fucking get it
[23:01:28] <Supertongue> Pictures? Documentation?
[23:01:30] <@Jennyfer> okay, i'm not overly fond of banging my head against brick walls
[23:01:51] <Supertongue> Empty words and promises do not make for good evidence, you know.
[23:01:51] <@Jennyfer> lata
[23:01:51] <@chakl|w00t> sure
[23:01:51] <@chakl|w00t> where do you want me to send it?
[23:01:51] <Naked_Lunch> c yuh
[23:02:00] <@chakl|w00t> where do you want me to send my proof?
[23:02:01] <@chakl|w00t> titles?
[23:02:03] <@chakl|w00t> deeds?
[23:02:22] <Supertongue> Send it to [Oh my, censored], Stavanger, Rogaland, Norway. :salute:
[23:02:22] <@chakl|w00t> pictures?
[23:02:22] <@chakl|w00t> office?
[23:02:33] <Naked_Lunch> Going all Volourn on us, eh?
[23:02:47] <@chakl|w00t> allright made a note
[23:02:51] <Supertongue> This is a matter of life and death
[23:02:52] <@chakl|w00t> "provide proof to virgin"
[23:03:12] <@chakl|w00t> anyway brb
[23:03:13] <Supertongue> All right
[23:03:18] <@SolInvictus-> k.
[23:04:08] <@SolInvictus-> Twinfalls is the fat chick, right?
[23:04:13] <Naked_Lunch> What? D:
[23:04:27] <Naked_Lunch> i've never seen a picture of him/her
[23:04:35] <Supertongue> I think that Twinfalls is male
[23:04:45] <Naked_Lunch> it's possible
[23:04:47] <@SolInvictus-> I dunno. Someone showed me a picture awhile back of Twinfalls. Looked like a horribly obese chick.
[23:04:49] <Supertongue> His avatar depicts a female, though
[23:04:55] <Pooperscooper> chakl needs proof
[23:04:57] <Naked_Lunch> well, so does Aptyp D:
[23:05:04] <Pooperscooper> cause shenmue 2 had a doa character in it
[23:05:08] <Naked_Lunch> Twinfalls reminds me a lot of Mariena for some reason
[23:05:11] <Pooperscooper> meaning that the engine was DOA omg
[23:05:12] <Supertongue> what
[23:05:17] <Supertongue> Link me up to his/her picture
[23:05:30] <Naked_Lunch> with the whole "man pretending to be hawt chick" scheme
[23:05:32] <@SolInvictus-> I don't have it anymore.
[23:05:36] <Pooperscooper> chakl show me proof of shenmue 2 DOA character
[23:05:38] <Pooperscooper> plz
 

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Well, not that VD would need any kind of help or support in batting off Mr "Conspiracy Theories" there, but I saw design documents early in the process. Those haven't been widely circulated, so if it's a prank... it's a damned good one, and I'd actually enjoy seeing it explode around here. :lol:
 

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[22:52:25] <@chakl|w00t> he avoided every question
[22:52:32] <@chakl|w00t> and then didnt respond to any of the mentions to krazy K
lol. Is that the stupidest comment EVAR or what? Why the fuck would I care about some guy named Krazy K and how is that even relevant to my project?

[22:53:21] <Naked_Lunch> I'm not a big fan of VD...
Nooooo!

[22:53:58] <@SolInvictus-> "What, now I have to prove something to someone? Too funny."
[22:53:59] <@SolInvictus-> So basically... he has nothing to show for it.
*rolls eyes*

[22:54:29] <@SolInvictus-> And it looked way more 'real' than his stuff.
My photoshop skills suck.

[22:54:41] <@SolInvictus-> He doesnt even have a name for his studio
[22:54:45] <@SolInvictus-> or a site.
[22:54:45] <@SolInvictus-> Or anything.
I said in the previous response that I do have it. How's your reading comprehension?

[22:54:58] <Naked_Lunch> well, that is rather silly to not have a site now
Why? I get all I need at the Codex. Anyway, since we are about to hit the next phase, the site is almost done.

[22:55:38] <Supertongue> That stuff can be done when the game is a few months away from release
Exactly. It should be done when one has a lot to show and when it's time to generate some attention. I preferred to polish stuff at the Codex before I show it to the "world". Those who did pay attention know how much was influenced by the suggestions.

[22:55:49] <Naked_Lunch> chakl, you are quite possibly the biggest moron I've met in my life
I concur.

[22:56:54] <@Jennyfer> you keep pointing to other games as evidence that he's not making this one
The mind boggles.

[22:58:22] <@chakl|w00t> Naked_Lunch: Has he shown the game engine to anybody?
[22:58:27] <@chakl|w00t> like a fiunctioning game engine?
[22:58:31] <@chakl|w00t> cus thats teh first step
[22:58:32] <@chakl|w00t> not screeneies
Torque - the Garage Games engine. More questions?

[22:59:11] <Naked_Lunch> The question is, why would he make this all up anyway?
Exactly. I was already an admin of the Codex when I started working on the game, so it's not like I needed attention or a custom rank.

[23:00:37] <@SolInvictus-> I just want to see evidence of his game. A tech demo or something. Anything tangible.
Why? Want to start a fansite?

[23:01:06] <Naked_Lunch> I suppose the concept art is totally photoshopped, too
Like totally. The animations are photoshopped too, in case someone's wondering.
 

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Whipporowill said:
Well, not that VD would need any kind of help or support in batting off Mr "Conspiracy Theories" there, but I saw design documents early in the process. Those haven't been widely circulated, so if it's a prank... it's a damned good one, and I'd actually enjoy seeing it explode around here. :lol:
Thanks, Whip. No, it's not a prank.
 

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...and he got cyber-castrated when he got the boot from the 'Codex, so now he's SUPAR-BIASED against VD.
 

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Silly VD, don't you know you can't just say "I'm making a game"? Who cares about screenshots, animations or concept art, you are obliged to let anyone enter your house and take a look. Instead you lie to us, show us false screens and force us to believe you and look forward to your non-existing game. What a bad person you are.

Seriously, I don't know why you are even responding to the chat quotes.
 

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:shock: In one of those links he tells someone else to stop creating drama on the site.

Though it's nice to see you all are so eager to continue it for eternity (will Sol Invictus ever be forgetten or will he be attached to the Codex symbolically forever?
 

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Relien said:
Seriously, I don't know why you are even responding to the chat quotes.
It's entertaining. It's not every day that one encounters stupidity so pure and untainted that it manifests itself physically (unless one visits TES forums). Those arguments are something ... else.

- I know a crazy guy and he made a game. That means that VD isn't making one!
- You see! He ignored my comments about the crazy guy. That means VD definitely made it all up!
- Wait! There is more proof! There was a game and then it turned out it was a prank! That is teh ultimate proof of that AoD never existed.
- We have seen NOTHIN'. Gameplay screens and animations and concept art and models don't mean a thing. In fact, they only prove further that it was all a lie! Don't you SEE?!!!
- Real games (and men) have websites!
(Speaking of sites, anyone remembers this one http://www.rpgcodex.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=10362)

Fascinating.
 

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Fucking rex got bitched like a bitchity bitch, kinda like San Fransisco on south park. I wonder, does he talk with his eyes closed like San Fransiscans who drive hybrids, or can we just not tell cause of his narrow, slopey eyes? He cannot see up or down, and can be blinded with a piece of twine. However, he has excellent peripheral vision, and can actually see someone behind him, so he can enjoy the look on a man's face as he whores himself out for boukou money.
 

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<@SolInvictus-> I dunno. Someone showed me a picture awhile back of Twinfalls. Looked like a horribly obese chick.

Tee-hee. I pick a sig from bryce that I find amusing, and now Rex has seen a magic picture of me which doesn't exist. This fella really is tragically bitter about anything whatsoever to do with this site.

VD, stop wasting time with this silliness and get back to the game giddamit.

I'm going to return to powdering down my vast, undulating folds of woman-flab
 

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Yep, Mariena was a guy all along. I told them, but they couldn't handle the truth.

I guess that makes me a prophet. Or something.
 

Twinfalls

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Who is Mariena? I have no alt, and for the record i'm not fat. In fact I'm too thin.
 

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