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Heroes of the Storm

Phage

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Damn I actually brofisted a plebostratus post. Feels dirty.
 

SirSingAlot

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on www.hotslogs.com you can watch plenty of good statistics like win% of heroes, those correlating with certain builds/skill choices ect.
on top of that, you may upload your replays and get some information about your win% with certain heroes, win% with friends ect.

useful
 

Revenant

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Okay, so since reaching player level 20 in this awards a pet in WoW, I have an excuse to play Heroes of the Storm. Though normally I detest MOBAs, I must admit this has been a great fun so far - mindless entertainment at its best, far better than Diablo III had I bought it, and it's free! Some impressions below.

Upsides:

- Good map variety. Each battleground has really distinct objectives and they are fun to pursue rather than a chore.
- Game is really easy to get into, what really can't be said about DOTA 2. I haven't played LoL, though.
- No items (yeah I know :decline: :decline: by your MOBAfag standards). Not having to micromanage stuff is really great in this type of game, I think.
- Voice acting is superb. The same can be said about art direction in general. No disgusting Valve's cartoon freakish abomination characters here.
- You can play The Lost Vikings in 2015! What more can be said here.

Downsides:

- No downsides really, as far as my judgment goes. It would be a plus if the 64 bit client worked in Wine.

Sitting at player level 7 at the moment, took some 6 hours or so to get this far. I'm getting Nova as soon as I amass 10k gold because kawaiiiiiii uguuuuu she's so cute!!1 What heroes should I unlock next? I intend to unlock one hero of every type and preferrably from different Blizzard universes. Thinking to go Diablo - The Lost Vikings - Tyrande (???) - Kael'Thas (maybe). Also, waiting for the introduction of Blackthorne from the classic Blizzard universe.
 

Hobo Elf

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I got bored of this garbage after two days. There are no upsides. The map variety is superficial since most of them have you doing the same thing: collecting some shit items so you can rail the other teams asshole. It's better than having no variety, but the novelty wears off quite fast. And voice acting? In an online PvP game? Who the fuck cares about this shit?
 

Revenant

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Yeah, just leveling the fembarb to level 5 right now (she's on the free rotation this week), but I somehow can't squeeze damage out of her, compared to Arthas who I played immediately after the tutorial. As nice as the "try out" feature really is (you can even try out skins without buying them), I can't really gauge a character without playing a match with them, as performance against a team of opponents always turns out somewhat different than expected.
 

1451

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Leoric is indeed ridiculously overpowered, many times I outdamage assassins and specialists. Meanwhile Diablo is useless damage wise after the nerfs, he is relegated to a cc bot.
 

Revenant

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Men I just finished reading this whole thread, made for some quality entertainment on a lazy afternoon. In my opinion, if "pro" dota gameplay looks like

I'll much rather play a dumbed down, casualized hero brawler that was designed for people who don't like MOBAs than a spergy, time wasting excuse for a game depicted in the video above.

More on the topic, tried out Leoric and he's really fucking awesome. Gonna definitely unlock him next, although his ult seemed quite lackluster and lulzy, compared to his regular badass abilities.

Anyhow, the game feels like an excellent time sink, maybe I'll switch over to it from WoW if I don't get bored eventually. The prospect of constantly unlocking new heroes feels more driving than acquiring cards in Hearthstone or accumulating stupid achievements in a MMO in the long run.
 
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HoTS is always the same, there's no diversity of builds, setups and whatnot, all mechanics are very straightforward nuke/dash/cc. It's designed for retards that prefer hearthstone to MTG.

Also it's likely the most random vid to pull up, what point you were trying to make? It's just a dude fucking around with the most OP mid hero at a time instead of just facerolling his way in a (very) favorable matchup.
 

Zed

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"i prefer a child's game for retards to a game for cool adults with gamer skills"
^this thread lol
 

Revenant

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Lellellel gamur skillz look how fast I can klik on the ground trololo CYKA N00B

Dotafags' butthurt is delicious
 
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Lellellel gamur skillz look how fast I can klik on the ground trololo CYKA N00B

Dotafags' butthurt is delicious

Nice retort mate, it's a retarded video of a clearly bored person fucking around in the early game, so what's your point again? Perhaps i should make a video where i start up HoTS but instead of playing it, i will actually go ahead and take a shit on the keyboard. How would that relate to the game? Is there a subliminal message? Is that how actual gameplay looks like? Can i use it to back up my aimless jabs at something i don't even understand?

You are the reason games have been on a steady decline since early 00s.
 

Revenant

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That's why I used quote marks around pro in my message - while I didn't mean the video to be as a serious argument, it still encompasses everything disgusting in the MOBA scene, such as the exalted "pro gamer" mentality and knowledge of the meta as a prime measure of the gamer's competence. Why develop actual skills when you can just play the game for countless hundreds of hours, after which you inevitably gain a lot of knowledge about the metagame. Such peculiarities show an inherent flaw in the core of MOBA genre itself, and I will gladly play any game that declines and casualizes this despicable genre.

Also lol A GAME FOR COOL ADULTS my sides
 

sser

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I like this game a lot.

Yeah, just leveling the fembarb to level 5 right now (she's on the free rotation this week), but I somehow can't squeeze damage out of her, compared to Arthas who I played immediately after the tutorial. As nice as the "try out" feature really is (you can even try out skins without buying them), I can't really gauge a character without playing a match with them, as performance against a team of opponents always turns out somewhat different than expected.

Play her like an assassin. One of the few heroes who can 'carry' games, IMO.
 

Revenant

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I kinda don't like her animations and sound effects (that Leap "aaaaaaah" is particularly annoying). Will go with Leoric as my Diablo Warrior char.
 
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That's why I used quote marks around pro in my message - while I didn't mean the video to be as a serious argument, it still encompasses everything disgusting in the MOBA scene, such as the exalted "pro gamer" mentality and knowledge of the meta as a prime measure of the gamer's competence. Why develop actual skills when you can just play the game for countless hundreds of hours, after which you inevitably gain a lot of knowledge about the metagame. Such peculiarities show an inherent flaw in the core of MOBA genre itself, and I will gladly play any game that declines and casualizes this despicable genre.

Also lol A GAME FOR COOL ADULTS my sides

Game =/= "scene", "community", whatever the fuck you call it. I don't know if you are really that dense or just "trolling", which ironically makes you look like the person in the video that you despise so much.

FYI The only requirement to play dota on a decent enough level (or any mechanically "advanced" game/task for that matter) is having an attention span longer than that of a dead goldfish. Besides, pro meta is very different from what you usually see in a pub game. Pub's a shitfest, which might be a part of the charm i guess, since you can fuck around with all kinds of crazy builds, plays and combos. And on occasion people can come up with something like this:



Since dota actually uses Y axis for some abilities, you can pull units from below unto the ledge, which allows you to safely farm big camp of creeps as a hero who's not really well suited for doing so, whilst denying enemy's team XP gain. It's a clever use of game mechanics that doesn't require years of playtime, all you gotta do is pick a hero, see how his abilities work and apply a little bit of critical thinking to what you see in the game. It doesn't mean it can't get punished or countered though.

Pro scene on other hand revolves around certain set of strategies (early push, 4 protect 1, deathball, universal, etc.) that are pretty loose and shift quite often based on a current patch (which land somewhat frequently and shake things up a bit) or on a new build, underused hero/tactic that counters whatever's popular at the moment. Thanks to that, shit doesn't get stale for the most part.

Why develop actual skills when you can just play the game for countless hundreds of hours, after which you inevitably gain a lot of knowledge about the metagame.

There was a team once, that came out of nowhere and dominated the scene for a little while, but then was "patched out of the game". Meta knowledge means fuck all if you are a one-trick pony with no mechanical skill, game sense or proper strategy.
 
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sser

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Damn. Went 17-1 and now 0-6. That MOBA rollercoaster in full effect. :lol:
 

sser

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:yeah:

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Daedalos

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As if rank 1 was hard to achieve.. lel.

But congrats anyway bro
 

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