Incline of Dishonored (No next-gen garbage!)

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Its the pre-taking-to-sea hybrid. The hairy part is probably fin-like things.

Are you feeling okay?

I'm familiar with this box:


PCtard master race version?

I haven't seen the ones Captain Shrek posted. Fan mock-ups maybe?

Indeed they are. from vgboxart (which is basically a site where fans make their own covers of games)

Wait, I am rolling a d20 on this decision.

Good, play dices while I aim for a groin shoot. It's my fav

You can't miss. It has filled galaxies with mortal progeny.

I don't know much about this game, haven't been following it at all, but I dug arx fatalis and I'm a full on faggot fan-girl for dark messiah. Bethesda publishes all sorts of shit, doesn't mean they're even remotely involved with development. They've been a publishing house for tons of shovel-ware over the years, both good and bad, sure they're a shit developer but the publishing side is an unrelated entity. No need to get worked-up just because Bethesda publishes something, that company gets way to much credit and attention considering it's laissez-faire business nature, I don't even think they look at half the shit they attach they're name too.

That is a very naive attitude to have in this day and age.

I suspect that Bethesda as a publisher don't interfere with their developers' games as much as others do, but they still are probably pretty annoying.

Exactly this.

I have faith the game will be good, just how much the publisher interferes determines the end of result.

Of course, in any game with a number of environmental synergies, the game will be breakable, and Bethesda is no vote of quality control, here. This is probably a game that will require six patches to run without exploitable powers being combined to game-breaking effect.

I am also going to judge Harvey & Co. are doing a re-run of past principles, as it doesn't seem as innovative as Deus Ex, or its predecessor, System Shock, in principle. The best we can hope is they push the envelope in a way Bioshock DIDN'T and either force the genre to move forward, or create a new sub-genre in the category of emergent gameplay by combining powers, environmental principles, and laise faire improvisation to great effect!

I am not counting on any of the above, since, despite Arkane's reputation, their games tend to sell exactly like most European counterparts in the U.S.--that is, poorly. At best, I'm expecting a 7/10 from game reviewers on this one, though I'll judge it myself, and after a couple patches (according that Bethesda supply support) it will be worth a 9/10 on my functional scale of "shyte I should play." That's judging it alongside today's fare, of course. Not the independent days of yore, when Looking Glass studios and Microprose were still around.

I think Dark Messiah was one of the better action games released in the last decade. Glad I didn't know Bethesda's name was attached to it at the time or I might have given it a pass. I still can't imagine how this won't be consolised though and therefore won't get to that level of 'funness'. Perhaps more like DX3 where you can turn off most stuff but still ends up being slightly better than mediocre.

Bethesda has nothing to do with Dark Messiah. The publisher was Ubisoft and Valve wanted to buy Arkane. But they fucked up in the end.

Fucked up? Explain.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Crossing_(video_game)

The game was hyped and Arkane seemed to be in Valve's courtyard. In the end, Valve simply dropped Arkane and they almost went to bankruptcy, until they managed to get work for Bioshock 2. Which showed that the studio still had some talent.

• Arx Fatalis (2002)
• Dark Messiah of Might and Magic (2006)
• Arx Fatalis: Collector's Edition (2007)
• BioShock 2 (2010) - design assistance
• Dishonored (2012)
• The Crossing (TBA)

As you can see, there is a big hiatus between 2006 and 2012. 6 years. It's a miracle that they survived so long (pesky frenchs), but they are paying the price: they are in Bethesda's courtyard now. With both legs.

Maybe I used the wrong word, but my impression of the entire story is that Valve tried to play the role of the traditional publisher. But when Steam become such a great success, they did not need Arkane anymore. So they dropped them in a move not different from other publishers.

Let's just hope Dishonored doesn't miss its target Metacritic score, for Arkane's sake.

I don't think this applies, since Arkane are already owned by Zenimax.

Still, they must have 'incentives' and contractual obligations?

Getting shut down is the logical next step for any developer that doesn't breed GOTYs like

AFAIK, ZeniMax is a privately held publisher, so they don't have quarterly obligations.

They also aquired some really good dev houses recently. Arkane, Machine Games (former Starbreeze folks), Tango (Resident Evil creater, now making a real Survival horror game, not some shooter shit like RE5)....well, and then there's id Soft, right now making Doom 4.

Rage wasn't that great, but I suppose that's because John Carmack still has too much say in game design etc. Can't let Bethesda meddle into the programming king's affairs, wouldn't be received very well among butthurt gamers. Carmack is the living example why you should never let a programmer decide which game (and how) to make next.

Hey, you're right. I did not know that. I'd assumed that any huge publisher must be a publicly traded corp.

I guess that explains how Bethesda are allowed to make games that take 4 years to develop.

As much as I hate Bethesda, they are in a solid position. Thanks to fucking Skyrim and F3 (including NV). Maybe a failure as Brink did hurt them a little. And buying Id also. But they could afford it.

The only thing that can crash them is a MMORPG. And thank God they are doing exactly this. But it will not be enough and Bethesda will probably last for another 10 years.

And Rage ... the combat and the visuals are actually brilliant. Ok, you need a good PC for it and the characters still suck compared to Source's implementation. Not to mention the racing crap. But is not a bad game per se.

Anyway, Dishonored is interesting.

what about the videos of some guy killing hordes of enemies barehanded and killing bosses by either standing still and crouching occasionally or by standing still and walking to the side every couple seconds, all the while background keeps changing blur levels

I dunno I'm a borderline settingfag and Dishonored's setting looks like crap. The reason I'm in good with DX:HR is because I dig the setting and atmosphere, even though the gameplay is mediocre and the story is shit.

But hey, anything can happen. This looks like a solid Piratable title to check out should I maintain any interest. I don't like the idea of giving Bethesda money and I especially am careful about anything with their tag on the box, without knowing how much involvement they have with the actual development.