Hobo Elf
Arcane
It's ridiculously over the top and fun but extremely easy and the gameplay is some of the most shallow gameplay that the genre has to offer.
but extremely easy
Depends, do you like this music?but extremely easy
I'm getting mixed messages here.
Dark Souls warmed me up to consoltarded shit (well, the decline of PC gaming did that, but whatever). The visuals in this game are giving me eye cancer, but i was thinking it was all about the gameplay. Should i remove from inventory or not?
Depends, do you like this music?
Depends, do you like this music?
Fuck no.
The guy's haircut also doesn't help. Guess i'm back to being a PC master race prick.
but extremely easy
I'm getting mixed messages here.
Dark Souls warmed me up to consoltarded shit (well, the decline of PC gaming did that, but whatever). The visuals in this game are giving me eye cancer, but i was thinking it was all about the gameplay. Should i remove from inventory or not?
It's ridiculously over the top and fun but extremely easy and the gameplay is some of the most shallow gameplay that the genre has to offer.
Well, pc port of 3 is pretty bad (at least thats what I heard about it). Maybe it would be better to emulate ps2 version or just start with 4, since it have great pc version. As for which game is better, I guess it depends what you want. I would say DMC3 is overall better game although gameplay is bit limited. It offers a lot of weapons and styles but you can use only 2 melee and 2 ranged weapons with one style (its possible to change it between missions or at shops). 4 on the other hand have bit smaller arsenal but after unlocking all of it is available at once. Sadly the game was rushed, second half is just backtracking through beaten levels as different character.if you want to delve into the genre, and stay on PC, imho it would be best to start with Devil May Cry 3 SE (still the best imho, but i'm not as experienced in this genre like some other codexers... paging Edward_R_Murrow )
edit: btw, i also hated with a passion the music in MGR:R so i turned it off and fired up foobar in the background
but extremely easy
I'm getting mixed messages here.
Dark Souls warmed me up to consoltarded shit (well, the decline of PC gaming did that, but whatever). The visuals in this game are giving me eye cancer, but i was thinking it was all about the gameplay. Should i remove from inventory or not?
if you want to delve into the genre, and stay on PC, imho it would be best to start with Devil May Cry 3 SE (still the best imho, but i'm not as experienced in this genre like some other codexers... paging Edward_R_Murrow )
edit: btw, i also hated with a passion the music in MGR:R so i turned it off and fired up foobar in the background
Oh, in terms in content and mechanics its identical to ps2 version ( I think someone came up with mod allowing to use all weapons and styles at once). By dumbed down I guess you mean difficulty changes made in Special Edition. That was actually reasonable since english version normal mode was actually hard from japanese one. SE make its normal again which is still pretty challenging.Well, a quick google search shows that DMC3 on PC is a shitty, dumped down (as in they actually changed the gameplay to make the game easier?) port. Maybe i should play it using a PS2 emulator.
but extremely easy
I'm getting mixed messages here.
Dark Souls warmed me up to consoltarded shit (well, the decline of PC gaming did that, but whatever). The visuals in this game are giving me eye cancer, but i was thinking it was all about the gameplay. Should i remove from inventory or not?
if you want to delve into the genre, and stay on PC, imho it would be best to start with Devil May Cry 3 SE (still the best imho, but i'm not as experienced in this genre like some other codexers... paging Edward_R_Murrow )
edit: btw, i also hated with a passion the music in MGR:R so i turned it off and fired up foobar in the background
Well, a quick google search shows that DMC3 on PC is a shitty, dumped down (as in they actually changed the gameplay to make the game easier?) port. Maybe i should play it using a PS2 emulator.
I'm not really sure i'm looking for a "genre" either. To me console gaming is completely uncharted territory. I was impressed with the gameplay in Dark Souls so i thought that was a thing with Japanese devs, or something. The art style of a lot of those games is just very hard to digest for me but i figured if the game is good i can close an eye to it (maybe).
Don't know why people are comparing Dark Souls' gameplay to DMC's, they're both difficult for sure, but they handle combat in almost completely opposite ways.
I hear the PC port of DMC4 is actually pretty good, and there are plenty out there who'll tell you that it's got the best combat out of the whole series. Only problems are the fact that you spend the first half playing as a generic shounen anti-hero protagonist, and the fact that the game's basically unfinished level-wise (the second half of the game is literally you going through all the level's you've just beaten in reverse, with all the bosses intact to boot.
There is one thing with art style, most people are probably not aware of it. Dante and Vergil devil triggers (pretty much super duper mode) design is work of Atlus employee - Kazuma Kaneko.the art style is hit or miss (mostly the former)
Its still there, just need to be unlocked. From what I can remember there is also option to unlock all of them by using konami code or something like that.As for DMC3, I heard the issue with the initial release was that the Western release's 'Normal' was actually the Japanese version's 'Hard', which was rebalanced in the special edition after complaints that the game was too difficult. The hard mode is still in the SE (though I cannot remember if it's available from the start or you have to unlock it), and normal is still pretty challenging, so it's less dumbing down and more rebalancing.
but extremely easy
I'm getting mixed messages here.
Dark Souls warmed me up to consoltarded shit (well, the decline of PC gaming did that, but whatever). The visuals in this game are giving me eye cancer, but i was thinking it was all about the gameplay. Should i remove from inventory or not?
if you want to delve into the genre, and stay on PC, imho it would be best to start with Devil May Cry 3 SE (still the best imho, but i'm not as experienced in this genre like some other codexers... paging Edward_R_Murrow )
edit: btw, i also hated with a passion the music in MGR:R so i turned it off and fired up foobar in the background
Well, a quick google search shows that DMC3 on PC is a shitty, dumped down (as in they actually changed the gameplay to make the game easier?) port. Maybe i should play it using a PS2 emulator.
I'm not really sure i'm looking for a "genre" either. To me console gaming is completely uncharted territory. I was impressed with the gameplay in Dark Souls so i thought that was a thing with Japanese devs, or something. The art style of a lot of those games is just very hard to digest for me but i figured if the game is good i can close an eye to it (maybe).
afaik, no dumbing down for PC, just that the SE edition of the game (on all platforms) got added a "normal"/easy difficulty cause it proved to be too challenging for most on release (or something along those lines). iirc, you can still choose to play on hard at the beginning? the rest is par for the course as far as console ports from 10 years ago go. it's serviceable (particularly if you own a gamepad... i remember struggling quite a bit on kb+m back then and a friend confirmed most advanced manoeuvres were much easier on a gamepad). the music is better, the story is meh but who gives a fuck, the characters are cheesy but kinda charming in that cheesy way, the art style is hit or miss (mostly the former)
Don't know why people are comparing Dark Souls' gameplay to DMC's, they're both difficult for sure, but they handle combat in almost completely opposite ways.
I hear the PC port of DMC4 is actually pretty good, and there are plenty out there who'll tell you that it's got the best combat out of the whole series. Only problems are the fact that you spend the first half playing as a generic shounen anti-hero protagonist, and the fact that the game's basically unfinished level-wise (the second half of the game is literally you going through all the level's you've just beaten in reverse, with all the bosses intact to boot.
Yes I got the PC port for DMC4 and I have zero complaints. It's really good.
I personally like DmC (reboot) more than 3 or 4.
I personally like DmC (reboot) more than 3 or 4. Mostly because enemies are less spongy and there are next to no mazes/puzzles.
I personally like DmC (reboot) more than 3 or 4. Mostly because enemies are less spongy and there are next to no mazes/puzzles.
What about something like blue Demon Knight, these which can be damaged only by angelic weapons (in theory made for attacking multiply enemies and crowd control). One strong enemy with such requirement sounds like definition of sponge.I personally like DmC (reboot) more than 3 or 4. Mostly because enemies are less spongy and there are next to no mazes/puzzles.
You could check out the armored core series, made by the same company that does the Dark Souls/Kingsfield line of games. Though you'd need an emulator or console for that. Very different genre obviously, but widely regarded as having excellent gameplay, and shares some similarities with Dark Souls, like weapon/combat variety, branching/open paths (both within missions and in terms of selecting them) and a significant amount of 'character' customization in the form of equipment.I'm not really sure i'm looking for a "genre" either. To me console gaming is completely uncharted territory. I was impressed with the gameplay in Dark Souls so i thought that was a thing with Japanese devs, or something. The art style of a lot of those games is just very hard to digest for me but i figured if the game is good i can close an eye to it (maybe).