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Josh Sawyer Q&A Thread

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Best thing DeNiros ever done if thy asks me, actually used Guarani an all if i'm rememberin right. Soundtrack were fuckin heavenly.
 

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What would your response to these statements be: "the super racist native american who thinks "casinos" are just places where the "white man flips over little pieces of paper""
Follows-Chalk isn't a Native American, culturally or ethnically.

My friend is saying that your guys were insensitive in your jokes regarding Indians in the latest DLC. Thoughts?
I have no idea what jokes he's talking about, most notably since there aren't any Indians/Native Americans in Honest Hearts.
lol Sawyer can be so weaselly. "there aren't any Indians/Native Americans in Honest Hearts" you know what they mean. How um paleface, land give rich bounty of meat. Me name after first thing um birth mother saw, call me Drunk Man Pissing On Totem Pole. White man life make no sense, me go on um vision quest and return with wisdom of ancestors. It's not an offensive stereotype guys, he's not a native american
 

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What would your response to these statements be: "the super racist native american who thinks "casinos" are just places where the "white man flips over little pieces of paper""
Follows-Chalk isn't a Native American, culturally or ethnically.

My friend is saying that your guys were insensitive in your jokes regarding Indians in the latest DLC. Thoughts?
I have no idea what jokes he's talking about, most notably since there aren't any Indians/Native Americans in Honest Hearts.
lol Sawyer can be so weaselly. "there aren't any Indians/Native Americans in Honest Hearts" you know what they mean. How um paleface, land give rich bounty of meat. Me name after first thing um birth mother saw, call me Drunk Man Pissing On Totem Pole. White man life make no sense, me go on um vision quest and return with wisdom of ancestors. It's not an offensive stereotype guys, he's not a native american


You only need to be intellectually honest when talking to the sane and well minded.. Seems Sawyer has figured out SJW PR quickly.
 

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lol Sawyer can be so weaselly. "there aren't any Indians/Native Americans in Honest Hearts" you know what they mean. How um paleface, land give rich bounty of meat. Me name after first thing um birth mother saw, call me Drunk Man Pissing On Totem Pole. White man life make no sense, me go on um vision quest and return with wisdom of ancestors. It's not an offensive stereotype guys, he's not a native american

Josh said:
Honest Hearts made me uncomfortable. What was the purpose of using every negative trope related to indigenous people in one game (cargo cults, mighty whitey, the ignorance and naivete of the NPCs and even naming a quest after the white man's burden)?
I don't think it would have been particularly interesting to suggest that, contrary to how the majority of various low-tech, low-contact cultures around the world have dealt with the arrival of cultures with significantly higher technology and scientific knowledge -- that the tribes of the Great Basin have some special psychological makeup that inures them to the same sorts of cultural processes.

Why is it that no one considers the fact that even Europe itself was very tribal at a point where Africa and the middle east held the greatest kingdoms and civilizations and various advances before Western Eur.'s gem, Italy? The third world was civilized.
Beats me. Cultures without a ton of technology or contact with the outside world tend to have similar reactions to sudden contact with high technology and high tech cultures. There's nothing that surprising about it. If society lost 98% of its populace and the remaining people became isolated, the survivors wouldn't automagically retain knowledge about combustion engines and the human respiratory system. Tribals in F:NV are intended to be relatively isolated Post-War groups, with a very mixed makeup, internally, that lost a huge amount of Pre-War knowledge.
 

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Fallout 2 certainly had its quirky moments, but nothing as retarded and game breaking as Fallout 3.
 
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When I first played fallout 2 I was a 12yo third worlder so pop culture references flew right over me. :M

Probably why it doesn't bother me.
 

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I'm pretty sure half of the Codex hates him for his comments on Wizardry and the other half hasn't played Wiz yet.
 

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BTW, just how ironic is it that JES has the most codexian tastes of any rpg dev and just fucking hated?
You mean his preference for dark lands / dry writing? he never struck me as much of a codexer with his enjoyment of AD&D 4e and dislike of hard counters, player restrictions etc. Are those things in conflict with dark lands? Never played it so I don't know, but they seem to be in conflict with the codex.

Unless you mean the JES that loves Hitman. Then yea, I see what you mean. He's with most of the codex, especially those in GD/GG.
 

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You mean his preference for dark lands / dry writing? he never struck me as much of a codexer with his enjoyment of AD&D 4e and dislike of hard counters, player restrictions etc. Are those things in conflict with dark lands? Never played it so I don't know, but they seem to be in conflict with the codex.

Unless you mean the JES that loves Hitman. Then yea, I see what you mean. He's with most of the codex, especially those in GD/GG.

Sawyer is totally in line with the Codex, provided you ignore all of the following Sawyer facts:

* SJW
* Preference for dry, history writing
* Obsession with balance
* Desire to make games idiot proof
* Was responsible for Pillars of Eternity
 

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You mean his preference for dark lands / dry writing? he never struck me as much of a codexer with his enjoyment of AD&D 4e and dislike of hard counters, player restrictions etc. Are those things in conflict with dark lands? Never played it so I don't know, but they seem to be in conflict with the codex.

Unless you mean the JES that loves Hitman. Then yea, I see what you mean. He's with most of the codex, especially those in GD/GG.

Sawyer is totally in line with the Codex, provided you ignore all of the following Sawyer facts:

* SJW
* Preference for dry, history writing
* Obsession with balance
* Desire to make games idiot proof
* Was responsible for Pillars of Eternity
To be honest, he doesn't strike as a SJW, at least not more than any other Obsidian/other rpg devs. His games featured rape, didn't pandered to feminists or the LGBT by giving women all positions of power in the gameworld, making everyone gay or other crap like that, unlike BioWare, Beamdog and others.
Neither he seems to want to make games for the masses, considering his dream project is a historical rpg in the veins of Darklands, with a classless system and TB combat.
You're right with point 2, 3 and 5, though, but I wouldn't say that his preference for dry writing clashes with the Codex.
 

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To be honest, he doesn't strike as a SJW, at least not more than any other Obsidian/other rpg devs.

The key phrase being "at least not more than any other Obsidian..."

He's not a crazy SJW, but he is a SJW, supported Anita Sarkeesian, GamerGate, etc. I don't particularly blame him for it, because you kind of had to to survive as a developer in the political climate at the time, but let's not pretend that Sawyer is with the Codex on this.

Neither he seems to want to make games for the masses, considering his dream project is a historical rpg in the veins of Darklands, with a classless system and TB combat.

His systemfag beliefs and historyfag desires are often in conflict.

You're right with point 2, 3 and 5, though, but I wouldn't say that his preference for dry writing clashes with the Codex.

Most of the Codex hates dry writing. Are you kidding?
 

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