In Progress Let's Play Mass Effect 3: Emotional Engagements

[Mrowak]

I am unwilling to suspend my disbelief when it comes to how the stealth system of the normandy work.

That's in short the content of your post. But this just means there is no point in discussing it with you. It's like someone complaining about magic being real inside the Harry Potter universe.

No, it's like complaining that Harry Potter universe is stupid.

Besides, if you want to violate RL physics almost freely, make fantasy, not Sci-Fi.
It's evident that biowaste cannot into Sci-Fi, especially after Asari in ass defect 1 and jellymoulding human reaper in ass defect 2.

I thought it was obvious that ME is space fantasy. It has as much to do with sci-fi as Star Wars.

 

[DraQ]

I thought it was obvious that ME is space fantasy.

Then why not go *full* retard with it for the sake of awesome?

Why even pretend you're doing proper Sci-Fi?

Why not make something along the lines of some anime or mature version of Ulysses 31?

The aim of proper Sci-Fi is effectively exploring the implications of stuff. You come up with an idea or set of ideas, preferably consistent with known science or at worst being a careful point violation, then see how they affect stuff, either making a story, or creating a universe for you to set story in and preferably allowing this story to evolve in manner that couldn't be possible in another setting due to the quirks of the one you've made.

It has as much to do with sci-fi as Star Wars.

Funny you mention that - I remember how stunned I was by the fact that the old trilogy, despite being essentially a space fable, seemed diamond-hard SF when compared to the new one.

 

[Mrowak]

I thought it was obvious that ME is space fantasy.

Then why not go *full* retard with it for the sake of awesome?

Why even pretend you're doing proper Sci-Fi?

Why not make something along the lines of some anime or mature version of Ulysses 31?

You know, I doubt bioware's audience realises the difference between sci-fi and space fantasy. To them it's the same pair of trousers. Remember, we are talking about people who think that insipid diarrhoea is actually quality writing... Which is the reason why Bioware doesn't bother with big, colourful plackards proclaiming "It's a fantasy in space, you morons!"

On the side note, I don't think anyone on the 'Dex would have anything against the existence of ME series if the general public recognised it for what it were - fun, but rather shallow shooters with with B/C-class writing and lots of cheesiness in the middle. Have your niche and godspeed to you. Alas, because the majority of people are... lacking in the taste department, we all know full well that if THIS is recognised as quality writing we can expect next 20 years of the same old bullshit over and over again, with fanboys/girls drooling over it to neusea. After Starcraft 2 I lost the faith in the mankind.

It has as much to do with sci-fi as Star Wars.

Funny you mention that - I remember how stunned I was by the fact that the old trilogy, despite being essentially a space fable, seemed diamond-hard SF when compared to the new one.

Why? To me SW was space fantasy from the moment I could differentiate between it and sci-fi. The sci-fi elements are few and far between, to the point, you could cross out completely any mention of space, stars, and move the cast to fantsy setting without sacrificing much. I can't help thinking about Han Solo as you generic fantasy Thief, Luke as some sort of Wizard from an order of Knights, Leia as your snarky princess, Yoda as a wise sage etc, etc. As you said, it's a space fable, and there's absolutely no place science plays any significant role. The fact that is pretty fucking awesome space fantasy (well, the Empire Strikes Back is) is another matter altogether.

The new trilogy... The main problem is that it just doesn't know what it wants to be. That and whatever the guy from Red Letter Media said about it.

 

[DraQ]

You know, I doubt bioware's audience realises the difference between sci-fi and space fantasy. To them it's the same pair of trousers. Remember, we are talking about people who think that insipid diarrhoea is actually quality writing... Which is the reason why Bioware doesn't bother with big, colourful plackards proclaiming "It's a fantasy in space, you morons!"

Filthy vermin, all of them.

After Starcraft 2 I lost the faith in the mankind.

Oh, do share the delicious snippets of horror - I didn't follow any SC2 news from the moment they decided to sell it in pieces.

Why? To me SW was space fantasy from the moment I could differentiate between it and sci-fi. The sci-fi elements are few and far between, to the point, you could cross out completely any mention of space, stars, and move the cast to fantsy setting without sacrificing much. I can't help thinking about Han Solo as you generic fantasy Thief, Luke as some sort of Wizard from an order of Knights, Leia as your snarky princess, Yoda as a wise sage etc, etc. As you said, it's a space fable, and there's absolutely no place science plays any significant role. The fact that is pretty fucking awesome space fantasy (well, the Empire Strikes Back is) is another matter altogether.

Of course, but try watching the new trilogy, then wash it down with the old. You'll think you're watching Space Odyssey or something like that, the contrast is just this severe.

 

[kris]

Wait here. Is Shepard supposed to travel the galaxy and gather allies to save earth? considering that seemingly hundreds if not thousands of super reapers attacked earth I reckon he has two days to travel the galaxy. Including doing special request quests for all his lovers. but like the oblivion gates in oblivion I guess the reapers will mostly just sit and wait for him to come back. Right and for all the allies to gather their fleets and get their ass over there.

 

[kris]

Why? To me SW was space fantasy from the moment I could differentiate between it and sci-fi. The sci-fi elements are few and far between, to the point, you could cross out completely any mention of space, stars, and move the cast to fantsy setting without sacrificing much. I can't help thinking about Han Solo as you generic fantasy Thief, Luke as some sort of Wizard from an order of Knights, Leia as your snarky princess, Yoda as a wise sage etc, etc. As you said, it's a space fable, and there's absolutely no place science plays any significant role. The fact that is pretty fucking awesome space fantasy (well, the Empire Strikes Back is) is another matter altogether.

The new trilogy... The main problem is that it just doesn't know what it wants to be. That and whatever the guy from Red Letter Media said about it.

Han Solo isn't in any way a thief. Bandit or mercenary more-like.
Luke also is more like a fighter and his "magic" isn't something he uses more than a very few times. The whole force thing in the old movies was more about mysticism and it would be more prudent to call him a space monk IMO.

 

[Mrowak]

Wait here. Is Shepard supposed to travel the galaxy and gather allies to save earth? considering that seemingly hundreds if not thousands of super reapers attacked earth I reckon he has two days to travel the galaxy. Including doing special request quests for all his lovers. but like the oblivion gates in oblivion I guess the reapers will mostly just sit and wait for him to come back. Right and for all the allies to gather their fleets and get their ass over there.

Which is even more amusing considering that the demo makes a big deal of showing you how the Reapers sliced through human fleet and planetary defences to finally reach Earth in like 5 minutes. And then you are told to hitchhike the galaxy gathering help for some reason. They surely gonna make it.

 

[Mrowak]

Why? To me SW was space fantasy from the moment I could differentiate between it and sci-fi. The sci-fi elements are few and far between, to the point, you could cross out completely any mention of space, stars, and move the cast to fantsy setting without sacrificing much. I can't help thinking about Han Solo as you generic fantasy Thief, Luke as some sort of Wizard from an order of Knights, Leia as your snarky princess, Yoda as a wise sage etc, etc. As you said, it's a space fable, and there's absolutely no place science plays any significant role. The fact that is pretty fucking awesome space fantasy (well, the Empire Strikes Back is) is another matter altogether.

The new trilogy... The main problem is that it just doesn't know what it wants to be. That and whatever the guy from Red Letter Media said about it.

Han Solo isn't in any way a thief. Bandit or mercenary more-like.
Luke also is more like a fighter and his "magic" isn't something he uses more than a very few times. The whole force thing in the old movies was more about mysticism and it would be more prudent to call him a space monk IMO.

I only meant by that you can easily substitute those characters with your standard D&D fantasy classes and you are good to go. Let's not play semantics, please. Call Han Solo a Rogue, Luke a Paladin (or space monk) and you are good to go. It's still fantasy in space - not a sci-fi.

 

[kris]

Wait here. Is Shepard supposed to travel the galaxy and gather allies to save earth? considering that seemingly hundreds if not thousands of super reapers attacked earth I reckon he has two days to travel the galaxy. Including doing special request quests for all his lovers. but like the oblivion gates in oblivion I guess the reapers will mostly just sit and wait for him to come back. Right and for all the allies to gather their fleets and get their ass over there.

Which is even more amusing considering that the demo makes a big deal of showing you how the Reapers sliced through human fleet and planetary defences to finally reach Earth in like 5 minutes. And then you are told to hitchhike the galaxy gathering help for some reason. They surely gonna make it.

I didn't even go into this part you mentioned. Basically within those five minutes they go from the edge of the solar system, wipes out the moon, attacks london and then sweep in on Shepard-city. the council might be in a time-bubble though, it is B-movie SF after all.

 

[RK47]

Anderson and my team of Alliance Navy specialists, consisting of Farkov, Bruticus, Podex_Pistor will buy time for Shepard.

 

[abnaxus]

Wait here. Is Shepard supposed to travel the galaxy and gather allies to save earth? considering that seemingly hundreds if not thousands of super reapers attacked earth I reckon he has two days to travel the galaxy. Including doing special request quests for all his lovers. but like the oblivion gates in oblivion I guess the reapers will mostly just sit and wait for him to come back. Right and for all the allies to gather their fleets and get their ass over there.

It's also a given that some kind of superweapon will be involved to blast the Reapers from existence.

 

[RK47]

Wait here. Is Shepard supposed to travel the galaxy and gather allies to save earth? considering that seemingly hundreds if not thousands of super reapers attacked earth I reckon he has two days to travel the galaxy. Including doing special request quests for all his lovers. but like the oblivion gates in oblivion I guess the reapers will mostly just sit and wait for him to come back. Right and for all the allies to gather their fleets and get their ass over there.

It's also a given that some kind of hyperweapon will be involved to blast the Reapers from existence.

Fixed.

 

[felipepepe]

Wait here. Is Shepard supposed to travel the galaxy and gather allies to save earth? considering that seemingly hundreds if not thousands of super reapers attacked earth I reckon he has two days to travel the galaxy. Including doing special request quests for all his lovers. but like the oblivion gates in oblivion I guess the reapers will mostly just sit and wait for him to come back. Right and for all the allies to gather their fleets and get their ass over there.

Considering that the Reapers attack Earth by slowling landing a few of their kind on a city and even more slowly attack the buildings floor by floor with their lasers, I'd say you have plenty of time.

Also, wasn't the Reapers going to fucking REAP the humans and other races as fuel/food/something? How creating husks and shooting big lasers has anything to do with that?

 

[Erebus]

Who would want to select action mode?

Good question, but I've got a better one : who the hell would want to select story mode ? From what I can guess, it's pretty much like a visual novel, except that the few choices are like this :

 

[RK47]

 

[Multiple Sarcasm]

Engaging emotions...

 

[Stereotypical Villain]

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[racofer]

ITZ about to begin!

Improved.

 

[Jack]

 

[Mrowak]

Wasn't its premiere like tomorrow, or did the pirates crack the shit out of Origin spyware?

 

[Brother None]

Oh heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeellls yeeeah.

 

[Kz3r0]

First Katawa Shojo, now this, do you have enough money to spend on cakes RK47?

 

[kazgar]

Wasn't its premiere like tomorrow, or did the pirates crack the shit out of Origin spyware?

RK47 is in a different timezone, and some of the regions may have had a slightly earlier release.

Supposedly if you use a vpn and connect through somewhere like hong kong, then launch origin, you can play mass effect almost 12 hours earlier then in the US! I've seen howto guides around the place.

 

[RK47]

Wow. Importing a level 30 save made Insanity looks like child's play. I'll upload a vid later.

 

[Brother None]

Vid? Vid?! Oh my, is this going to be a video LP?

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Alright.