Dorateen
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Skillvings. One of the most annoying enemies in the Tower. Also, one of the most satisfying to come back at higher levels and teach him a lesson.
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Wizardry Long Live Wizardry! (And The All-New Games By Ex-Wizardry Developers) - UPDATED: MARCH/07/2016
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mah Lord's using the sword you get from bringing rare Ore to the shop blacksmith, you know, the one that has good dmg and 45% stat. recovery? and now i decided to put a shield on him for 1st time ever.
<3
samurai is dual-wielding 2x Muramasa's each with 20-25% behead enchantment
ninja is dual-wielding 2x kunetliska's each with 30-35% behead enchantment, + his ninja innat ebonus brings that up to 65+ % for both <3
Dorarnae
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yeah I hate him. he appears even more often on 3ds I think. he's the reason why I have at least 1 character with swallow killer.
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this is not in any way an insult towards yourself but those answers sound so comical and so... Bradley-ish. Ugh.
very interesting to read those answers of his; they p. much confirm what i immediately began thinking about the overall series as soon as i started working my way backwards from Wiz 8: the fact that Bradley, while perhaps a competent game/RPG designer, has absolutely no clue about why Wizardry 1-5 are still untouched and still yet to be innovated upon in terms of system design even 30+ years later after Proving Grounds.
it's hard not to harbor a certain physical dislike of the man, as he is very proud of having destroyed Wizardry... thank god one of the Sir-Tech brothers had the good sense to sell that shit to true eurodite japs in the early 90's as that is the only reason the dungeon crawler genre still exists today and is alive and well; if things had been up to Bradley and only Bradley wellp, we'd all be very sad right now.
i have a suspicion he simply does not really like dungeon crawlers and that's all it is; something he denies even to himself but it is obvious when one analyzes how he approaches design.
this is not in any way an insult towards yourself but those answers sound so comical and so... Bradley-ish. Ugh.
very interesting to read those answers of his; they p. much confirm what i immediately began thinking about the overall series as soon as i started working my way backwards from Wiz 8: the fact that Bradley, while perhaps a competent game/RPG designer, has absolutely no clue about why Wizardry 1-5 are still untouched and still yet to be innovated upon in terms of system design even 30+ years later after Proving Grounds.
it's hard not to harbor a certain physical dislike of the man, as he is very proud of having destroyed Wizardry... thank god one of the Sir-Tech brothers had the good sense to sell that shit to true eurodite japs in the early 90's as that is the only reason the dungeon crawler genre still exists today and is alive and well; if things had been up to Bradley and only Bradley wellp, we'd all be very sad right now.
i have a suspicion he simply does not really like dungeon crawlers and that's all it is; something he denies even to himself but it is obvious when one analyzes how he approaches design.
The guy made Wizardry VII mostly by himself, so I cut him some slack. Even more for Wizards & Warriors, which is vastly underrated.
Regardless, all I wanted were quotes to use on the CRPG Book, and he provided them. They offer more insight on the man than on the game, but that's interesting too.
Regardless, all I wanted were quotes to use on the CRPG Book, and he provided them. They offer more insight on the man than on the game, but that's interesting too.
Well, most people who spend money on games want content newer than 1982. Why would someone prefer dungeon crawlers over great crpgs, since great crpgs give you what dungeon crawlers do but with content.
You seem to have this idea that content is bad. It isn't. Ask VD what year his game would have come out if it only had combat and dungeons.
And you once stated a well designed dungeon isn't obtuse, and yet you say EG has the best designed dungeons and they are the very definition of obtuse. You just dislike games that have any sort of thinking or choices, or challenging combat. I tried EG again today and got to the third floor before quitting because they game is just fodder for simpletons. There is nothing to it.
EO is superior in every way, from every perspective, in every possible angle or category imaginable.
You just have poor taste and like to justify your sophomoric game love with lots of words. Maybe you and Fluent should do a video of both of you playing shoots and ladders and Operation. Maybe playing some Mr. Potato Head. You could probably throw some Pokeman and checkers in there for good measure. And then you could get really childish after that and play some Elminage Gothic.
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-Drops in and talks as though he's an expert on blobbers and Wizardry in particular, when all he's ever played is a couple FOTM games for a few hours before having an autistic fit of rage and quitting
-Claims EG is easy and judges it ''the worst Wizclone ever made'', after admitting to only having played ''three or four levels'' (the starting dungeon...). After playing an hour of a game in a genre he knows fuckall about and is a wet-eared diaper wearing newcomer to, this man continues to writes paragraphs of hot opinions based on nothing because he never actually gets into the meat of, much less finishes any games he talks about
-Calls handhelds and shit Nintendos ''for his kids'' yet that and RPGmaker games is all he invests his time in, that is before inevitably quitting 1/20 of the game in and writing a diatribe about content and real RPGs
-Too retarded to find and use disc images of fantranslated games on his own or even download games from nicoblog
o im laffin this guy can't be real ur pulling me leg m8
-Claims EG is easy and judges it ''the worst Wizclone ever made'', after admitting to only having played ''three or four levels'' (the starting dungeon...). After playing an hour of a game in a genre he knows fuckall about and is a wet-eared diaper wearing newcomer to, this man continues to writes paragraphs of hot opinions based on nothing because he never actually gets into the meat of, much less finishes any games he talks about
-Calls handhelds and shit Nintendos ''for his kids'' yet that and RPGmaker games is all he invests his time in, that is before inevitably quitting 1/20 of the game in and writing a diatribe about content and real RPGs
-Too retarded to find and use disc images of fantranslated games on his own or even download games from nicoblog
o im laffin this guy can't be real ur pulling me leg m8
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For me the worst aspect of Wizardry 8 is the lack of good dungeons after the monastery.
Monastery is such a great starting dungeon. Good exploration, secrets, decent challenge for beginners, good encounters, good art, and adecuate size. Best beginning area ever.
After that you have lazy wilderness maps and open areas no satisfying to explore,because there is no geometry designed to pace the exploration. You just sweep the sector unlocking the map view, until you encounter another bloated hp enemy, or find... Nothing worth.
Another big mistake is the respawn rate in the city. If there is combat inside the bank, or an enemy building,that's fine, But it's annoying to try go shopping or searching quests or lore without fighting 8+ groups of thief's respawning constantly, and in addition waiting for the city guards turns fighting on your side.
I know there are "dungeon" like the tree city one. But it's rare compared with the open areas.
I love the game because the combat is fucking great with the speed mod,the party building is very good,although I prefer wiz6-7 in that regard, but the level and encounter design after monastery are atrocious.
Monastery is such a great starting dungeon. Good exploration, secrets, decent challenge for beginners, good encounters, good art, and adecuate size. Best beginning area ever.
After that you have lazy wilderness maps and open areas no satisfying to explore,because there is no geometry designed to pace the exploration. You just sweep the sector unlocking the map view, until you encounter another bloated hp enemy, or find... Nothing worth.
Another big mistake is the respawn rate in the city. If there is combat inside the bank, or an enemy building,that's fine, But it's annoying to try go shopping or searching quests or lore without fighting 8+ groups of thief's respawning constantly, and in addition waiting for the city guards turns fighting on your side.
I know there are "dungeon" like the tree city one. But it's rare compared with the open areas.
I love the game because the combat is fucking great with the speed mod,the party building is very good,although I prefer wiz6-7 in that regard, but the level and encounter design after monastery are atrocious.
Yeah, the first hours of Wizardry 8 are among the best moments in RPG - from that amazing character creation to the monastery... but after it's all so meh.
Wizards & Warriors is buggy as hell, but it has some nice dungeons, usually making good use of verticality:
And I prefer it's combat system - it's faster and doesn't take 5 hours per battle like unmodded Wiz 8. Also, there's no respawn (safe for a few areas, after a long time).
Wizards & Warriors is buggy as hell, but it has some nice dungeons, usually making good use of verticality:
And I prefer it's combat system - it's faster and doesn't take 5 hours per battle like unmodded Wiz 8. Also, there's no respawn (safe for a few areas, after a long time).
Dorateen
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Rapax Castle had some clever design and puzzles. I also enjoyed Marten's Bluff. Those were probably the post-Monastery dungeon highlights from Wizardry 8. Trynton was memorable, but maybe not for the right reasons.
It is an old genre. I played a Wizardry on the NES probably before you were born. I had to deal with games with no content before technology allowed games to have content. Now games can have content, as well as having much better mechanics.
Hitting enter six times for 99% of the fights over and over and over again isn't good mechanics.
A chardev system based upon grinding classes with only literally one choice to make isn't good chardev.
A dungeon system so stupid and sophomoric it need gimmick mechanics like one time use maps is not good dungeon design. A dungeon design that has 80 doors all leading to each other for no reason isn't good dungeon design.
Name any crpg or dungeon crawler that has some content making it playable for me and I will literally destroy you going in blind with no info, because this is what I do. I don't read up on what your betters have done. I don't check to see if something is viable at end game. All I need is me and the info the game was released with. I would drag my sack all over your monkey face with your fucking predeligated walkthrough party.
I know everything about this genre because this is the crpg genre before content, and I was around back then. And I didn't need walkthroughs and guides then, and I don't need them now.
No game is about the post game. Any game that requires you to beat it before it gets good is by definition retarded. The gameplay is literally retarded, as in stunted, lacking maturity, etc.
In fact, I challenge you and Aweigh in this game when it is released (Project Velyria) - read:https://www.projectvelyria.com/index
I will run circles around your monkey faces and then cave your peon brains in with my crpg wrench.
If a dungeon crawler's first dungeon sucks ass and provides no challenge why would I stick with the game? This is not what non-retards do.
Well the whole post may be nothing but flame bait, but I must admit that 'project velyria' does look worth keeping an eye on, at least.
I think you should get extra marks for making up your own words as well, 'predeligated' is a good one.
I think you should get extra marks for making up your own words as well, 'predeligated' is a good one.
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Beware lads: if you were old and senile with several extra helpings of aspergers, this could be you
Thank you. I like my words too. And that game does look awesome.
I may be old and senile but at least I don't need walkthroughs to tell me how to grind real nice and good in a game devoid of content and thought. My age equates to experience which equates to the reason you failed to accept my challenge due to your child peon monkey brain and reliance on walkthroughs and guides.
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Where did you even get the idea that I or anybody else here uses walkthroughs? I completed E:Gothic, Class of Heroes 1+2 and every single EO (something which you will never be able to accomplish due to dementia & crippling ADD) without using any FAQs or guides. If you want some friends to play vidya with I suggest trying the local old folks home or making up an imaginary buddy, like your nonexistent kids you keep blaming for you owning consoles
ho ho ho~
ho ho ho~
The posts all link to walkthroughs and you are not smart so I put two and two together.
ANYONE
Is there a way to get the newish Wizardry game that they gave out for free to fucking monkey people because they have an apple shit device on a civilized PC? I don't want to buy it on the psn or any other way since it is free for apple retards. People civilized enough to not use apple should get free shit, not other way around. Can I emulate this somehow and could someone send me a message how I can make this happen?
Lastly, a new game for you guys is coming out tomorrow merging your greatest loves - Dungeon Crawling and dating sim. I am assuming there will be no meaningful character development so I am not checking it out unless I hear otherwise. It is called Ray Gigantic or something like that.
Dorarnae
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there's no dating sim in ray gigant. game is too easy, farming is boring....game is more story focus and music is different than what exp inc. usually do...but playing dungeon crawler for story is like watching porn for story...
if you really need a story, then wait for coven and labyrinth of refrain to be in english, while battle are quite simple, the exploration is fun.
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You mean you simply made shit up like you do with everything else, it's called being a compulsive liar my man
Like how you just announced a ''new'' game that was old news half a year ago and lie about its contents in your last post, you have a superiority complex and lie about anything and everything to fit your narrative.
Anyone will attest it's not at all difficult to beat these games without using any online resources, especially series like EO which are beatable with pretty much any party. The appeal of party building games is freedom and figuring things out for yourself. E:G didn't even have any walkthroughs anywhere on the net, and due to the difficulty of postgame nobody in the English community even made it far enough to post about it until we did recently - for many queries about quests, game mechanics and how to solve the floors, the first google results are the posts we made here while playing and investigating how the game works.
I posted an old pastebin full of blobber recs and general game info early in this thread; why would I do that? I don't rely on FAQs after all. Because I wrote it.
Why are you here? You don't contribute anything of note. You don't even like videogames. It's abundantly clear from your posts that with every game, even the ones you like, you play it for a little while, get angry or bored and then quit. Start acting your age, you've already got one foot in the grave and the time you have left is precious. Shitposting here is not the way to go. It's time to wake up Roqua, you're not the real RPG man, you're not black and don't have a wife and kids - you started larping this character over a decade ago and eventually started believing you were really him.
YOU HAVE TO WAKE UP
The steam page for the game has about half the screenshots of seductive naked little girls and listed the game as half interactive novel. From my understanding Asian interactive novels are dating sims for pedophiles. Is this not true?
It is new to PC, the only system that matters. And also new to me as I never saw it in the steam upcoming releases for rpgs until I posted that. Why are you so full of rage? I notice that a lot of stupids are just frothing with hate. It isn't my fault you are dumb. I had nothing to do with it. You are evebn dumb enough to think I would lie about having a wife and kids to look cool or something. If I was going to lie to look cool I certainly wouldn't be married with kids in my online fantasy, which anyone who is older than 20 and/or not retarded would know.
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there's some dialog choice but you don't end up with a girl, it doesn't do anything....I actually never seen that in a dungeon crawler and I find it annoying that many people ask if the game has ''social links'' like p4 -_-
You load 16 tons and what do you get?
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