Incline Microsoft shutting down GFWL - removed from Batman:AA/AC, Bioshock 2, Dawn of War 2 and Dark Souls

[Wirdschowerdn]

Bullshit. Most commercial and professional software is released on Windows. Apple plays the second fiddle here.

 

[jcd]

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[Average Manatee]

If you want to work, buy a Mac.

 

[Lyric Suite]

Bullshit. Most commercial and professional software is released on Windows. Apple plays the second fiddle here.

Yes, but this is a situation that can change any time (totally unlike Linux, of course). The point i was trying to make is that it is not unfeasible to believe Apple may overtake Windows if Microsoft keeps screwing around. The one thing that made Windows a favored platform among commercial businesses is that PCs are generally cheaper and easier to customize, but that too may change. Certainly, the people at Microsoft are not helping themselves by introducing changes that reduce productivity and ease of use among consumers (and as strange as it sounds, Mac OSX is actually a much more reasonable operating system then Windows 8).

So they screwed themselves by ruining PC gaming, and now they are screwing themselves by distancing from productivity in an half baked attempt to capitalize on the tablet market (like they needed to make one single interface across the board to do that anyway). When one considers that Windows has been king precisely because it has (or has had) the best games and the best productivity software all those things sound like very bad business decisions. What's the point of expanding your market if it comes at the cost of losing out on what you have already?

 

[Wirdschowerdn]

Apple is a hardware company and not really concerned about creating a software ecosystem outside it's own toys. So no, Apple won't be a challenger. Windows will stay, regardless whether they screw up gaming or not. That's just a tiny fraction of Microsoft's overall userbase.

 

[Gurkog]

Bullshit. Most commercial and professional software is released on Windows. Apple plays the second fiddle here.

Yes, but this is a situation that can change any time (totally unlike Linux, of course). The point i was trying to make is that it is not unfeasible to believe Apple may overtake Windows if Microsoft keeps screwing around. The one thing that made Windows a favored platform among commercial businesses is that PCs are generally cheaper and easier to customize, but that too may change. Certainly, the people at Microsoft are not helping themselves by introducing changes that reduce productivity and ease of use among consumers (and as strange as it sounds, Mac OSX is actually a much more reasonable operating system then Windows 8).

So they screwed themselves by ruining PC gaming, and now they are screwing themselves by distancing from productivity in an half baked attempt to capitalize on the tablet market (like they needed to make one single interface across the board to do that anyway). When one considers that Windows has been king precisely because it has (or has had) the best games and the best productivity software all those things sound like very bad business decisions. What's the point of expanding your market if it comes at the cost of losing out on what you have already?

The point is that M$ wants people to buy ALL of their products. Their design plan is to make certain functionality in every product require other M$ shit to function. To receive 100% functionality you would have to buy all of M$'s shit. It is greed, pure and simple.

 

[DalekFlay]

Not defending GFWL, but it amuses me that all these years later people still think you need to sign-in online to play and save games on GFWL. Now they think all those games are going to be unplayable. It's just such repeated ignorance and a refusal to listen to the fact that you can make an offline local profile and play all these games without ever connecting GFWL to the internet.

Anyway... good riddance to a shitty service.

 

[Gurkog]

Not defending GFWL, but it amuses me that all these years later people still think you need to sign-in online to play and save games on GFWL. Now they think all those games are going to be unplayable. It's just such repeated ignorance and a refusal to listen to the fact that you can make an offline local profile and play all these games without ever connecting GFWL to the internet.

Anyway... good riddance to a shitty service.

heh, ignorance means missing a small link at the bottom of a page that has to be scrolled through to even see it. I missed it, but it wasn't due to ignorance. Reading through all that shit just to find something that should have a toggle button in the main header is fucking stupid.

 

[DalekFlay]

heh, ignorance means missing a small link at the bottom of a page that has to be scrolled through to even see it. I missed it, but it wasn't due to ignorance. Reading through all that shit just to find something that should have a toggle button in the main header is fucking stupid.

I don't remember scrolling through anything, but even if you had to you would think for all the bitching "OMG ONLINE TO SAVE!" gets people would learn about offline profiles.

 

[taxalot]

Have you guys forgotten how to use cracks to worry about such a thing?

 

[Dr Tomo]

Bullshit. Most commercial and professional software is released on Windows. Apple plays the second fiddle here.

Yes, but this is a situation that can change any time (totally unlike Linux, of course). The point i was trying to make is that it is not unfeasible to believe Apple may overtake Windows if Microsoft keeps screwing around. The one thing that made Windows a favored platform among commercial businesses is that PCs are generally cheaper and easier to customize, but that too may change. Certainly, the people at Microsoft are not helping themselves by introducing changes that reduce productivity and ease of use among consumers (and as strange as it sounds, Mac OSX is actually a much more reasonable operating system then Windows 8).

So they screwed themselves by ruining PC gaming, and now they are screwing themselves by distancing from productivity in an half baked attempt to capitalize on the tablet market (like they needed to make one single interface across the board to do that anyway). When one considers that Windows has been king precisely because it has (or has had) the best games and the best productivity software all those things sound like very bad business decisions. What's the point of expanding your market if it comes at the cost of losing out on what you have already?

Smells like a Mactard here but I will wait. Anyway, no Apple will never be a contender and if there was one linux would be the only thing with Ubuntu which they customized so it is similar to Windows interface and has the same productivity. Also most businesses like MS for their enterprise software and I highly doubt that Apple plans to take a dip in that area of business when they are making a killing off people who must have their Apple products because owning one means you are sophisticated .

Also not sure where you are getting your info but you don't have to be forced to purchase all your games from GFWL as there are a dozen DD's that now sell games and the most popular is Steam lolz. I can see how it might be ruined for pc gaming because you own a Mac as vast majority of studios release games for that OS after the Windows version.

What's the point of expanding your market if it comes at the cost of losing out on what you have already?

That is a good question hmmmm. Possibly the fact that they are one of the only OS's that have such a large user base and really don't have many competitors right now is a possibility. Maybe some day we will have someone or some company make a decent OS that isn't crap and give people more choices, which right now is perfect since MS would lack the resources to actually strong arm you out of the market through litigation.

Apple is a hardware company and not really concerned about creating a software ecosystem outside it's own toys. So no, Apple won't be a challenger. Windows will stay, regardless whether they screw up gaming or not. That's just a tiny fraction of Microsoft's overall userbase.

Basically this as people don't purchase Mac's for the software it is mainly the hardware. That is what I would have figured from their pricing their desktops which are ridiculously overpriced just because it has a Apple logo. Think MS saw all that Jew gold that Valve rakes in and they want some of that tit milk as well since it is such a nice passive income stream to let your company become inept and lazy. Only reason why they are probably going to give it another shot and hope people have forgotten about GFWL.

Have you guys forgotten how to use cracks to worry about such a thing?

Nope and thank god I have the option of not purchasing their MS Sh8t and any other poorly ported pc games from studios that are too lazy to put in the effort.

*edit Engrish so bad desu desu

 

[DalekFlay]

Cracks are great for game preservation but official shit is better. Cracks can sometimes fuck with compatibility.

 

[Lyric Suite]

Anyway, no Apple will never be a contender

I don't see why not. All it would take for them to be a "contender" is to seize any opportunity Microsoft throws at them. In fact, that opportunity is already making itself felt:

http://forums.autodesk.com/t5/Installation-Licensing/3DS-Max-2014-for-mac-OSX/td-p/3919068

Do you think it would be difficult for a multi-billion dollar company like Apple to convince Autodesk or similar high grade commercial software companies to port their products to Mac OSX? And what would happen to Windows then?

Of course, i'm just speculating here. The possibility may not rise at all. The argument i was making here is that its very dangerous for Microsoft to leave themselves open to such a scenario by fucking around with the very things that made their system appealing through out all this years.

Also not sure where you are getting your info but you don't have to be forced to purchase all your games from GFWL as there are a dozen DD's that now sell games and the most popular is Steam lolz. I can see how it might be ruined for pc gaming because you own a Mac as vast majority of studios release games for that OS after the Windows version.

I was talking about the Xbox and the subsequent advent of multi-platforming, which rendered Windows redundant as a gaming platform for most people (old timers like us being an anomaly). By cutting into the console market, they ended up competing with their own desktop system and they allowed other console manufacturers to compete as well. How smart was that?

 

[DalekFlay]

I was talking about the Xbox and the subsequent advent of multi-platforming, which rendered Windows redundant as a gaming platform for most people (old timers like us being an anomaly). By cutting into the console market, they ended up competing with their own desktop system and they allowed other console manufacturers to compete as well. How smart was that?

They're playing a long game and expect a single platform to rule the living room and access to all media, and they want to be that platform. They see that as the future. Whether it pays off for them is yet to be seen.

 

[Dr Tomo]

I don't see why not. All it would take for them to be a "contender" is to seize any opportunity Microsoft throws at them. In fact, that opportunity is already making itself felt:

http://forums.autodesk.com/t5/Installation-Licensing/3DS-Max-2014-for-mac-OSX/td-p/3919068

Do you think it would be difficult for a multi-billion dollar company like Apple to convince Autodesk or similar high grade commercial software companies to port their products to Mac OSX? And what would happen to Windows then?

Of course, i'm just speculating here. The possibility may not rise at all. The argument i was making here is that its very dangerous for Microsoft to leave themselves open to such a scenario by fucking around with the very things that made their system appealing through out all this years.

Nigga not sure what to say to you. Window enterprise do you know what it is?

I was talking about the Xbox and the subsequent advent of multi-platforming, which rendered Windows redundant as a gaming platform for most people (old timers like us being an anomaly). By cutting into the console market, they ended up competing with their own desktop system and they allowed other console manufacturers to compete as well. How smart was that?

I am not going to bother answering this............. I mean seriously guy?

 

[Lyric Suite]

Window enterprise do you know what it is?

Windows 8 do you know what that is? As if Apple couldn't conceivably develop their own enterprise system. Too far fetched i suppose, not like they have billion of dollars at their disposal which they could use to expand into any market they wanted, particularly now that their dear hipster leader is dead.

I am not going to bother answering this............. I mean seriously guy?

Seriously what? Are you going to deny reality now?

 

[Roguey]

Not defending GFWL, but it amuses me that all these years later people still think you need to sign-in online to play and save games on GFWL. Now they think all those games are going to be unplayable. It's just such repeated ignorance and a refusal to listen to the fact that you can make an offline local profile and play all these games without ever connecting GFWL to the internet.

Anyway... good riddance to a shitty service.

The last patch for Arkham City was only available through GFWL. Where'mai going to get it now should I need it in the future?

 

[DalekFlay]

The last patch for Arkham City was only available through GFWL. Where'mai going to get it now should I need it in the future?

I didn't say anything about patches... ?

 

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21:23

Hey BioShock 2 fans!

In August, the Games For Windows LIVE service marketplace closed and some of you wondered what would happen to BioShock 2 on PC. We remain committed to supporting BioShock 2 on PC and are excited to announce that starting today the game is available via Steam. Not only that, but the Steam version of BioShock 2 includes all available multiplayer downloadable content, as well as the single player “Protector Trials” DLC!

With the help of our friends at Digital Extremes, BioShock 2 on Steam fully supports popular features of the platform, including controller compatibility, Steam achievements, and Big Picture mode. Matchmaking is easier than ever now, allowing you to search for “any game,” as opposed to having to select your game mode. Leveling up is also quicker and easier, as we’ve fine-tuned the multiplayer experience to be better than ever.

If you have already purchased BioShock 2 through a different digital partner, we’ve got you covered. Simply take the same game activation key you already own and “activate” it within Steam. Doing this will grant you access to BioShock 2, all of its multiplayer and Protector Trials DLC, as well as Minerva’s Den – the single player story-driven add-on that includes new weapons, enemies, and plasmids!

For more information on BioShock 2 on Steam, you can visit: http://2kgam.es/bioshock2steam

-- 2K Games

It looks like it gave me Minerva's Den automatically.

If you don't have it, you can buy it here: http://store.steampowered.com/app/244610/

 

[Metro]

Nothing about Bioshock 2 is incline, bro.

 

[DalekFlay]

Would of rather they just patched it out and made it DRM free, but whatever, this works.

 

[Zarniwoop]

Looks like it's really happening:

Dear Batman Arkham Fans - Microsoft has begun the process of closing down Windows Live services over the next year.

http://steamcommunity.com/games/200260/announcements/detail/1909817119598626547











Rest in peace you miserable piece of fucking cuntshit crap!

 

[Infinitron]

Fallout 3 still has it.

 

[Zarniwoop]

That might be because the process is just beginning and it's shutting down over the next year.

 

[DalekFlay]

Fallout 3 still has it.

In fairness just hit ESC and it goes away completely. And the DLC was DRM free, so you can just back it up.

Still it would be nice if they removed it officially.