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Review Obsidian is not the Victim

cogar48

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Volourn said:
"Actually MM7's was a Bioware-style "now pick choice 1 for good and "choice 2 for evil". Boring, but no one plays M&M for the C&C. "

Actually, BIO's C&C are much deeper than that. Sure, most BIO games aren't FO level but most of them are deeper than pick 2 endings at end of game. FFS

Stop the liez, start the truthz.


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cogar48 said:
jiujitsu said:
Hahaha, New Vegas makes Fallout 3 look like total shit.

"BUT WHAR SI TEH GAINT ROBOTZ!??"

"Y CATN I GET POWRA ARMUR!?" (I still haven't figured out how to get power armor yet...)

Power Armor is easy as shit to get. Do main quest. Find BOS. Do quests for BOS. Get Power Armor. :salute:

That last sentence is referring to F:NV's power armor.
 

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Volourn said:
"Actually MM7's was a Bioware-style "now pick choice 1 for good and "choice 2 for evil". Boring, but no one plays M&M for the C&C. "

Actually, BIO's C&C are much deeper than that. Sure, most BIO games aren't FO level but most of them are deeper than pick 2 endings at end of game. FFS

Stop the liez, start the truthz.

Yeah, occasionally you'll meet a character that you didn't kill earlier telling you thanks. ;) No, you're right to a point but it's only in recent Bioware games that it's like this. In KOTOR and Jade Empire it pretty much was a 'decide in the last half hour of game whether to pick good or evil ending, and disregard pretty much what you did up until then' kind of thing. I call this the Skyway flip-flop style of ending. Oh, there was the open hand/closed fist quest which depended on how you played..C&C to da max!
 

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I just want to say that I tend not to judge a game by it's bugs unless they totally prevent me from playing it. Sure, make note of the more frustrating shit, but I wouldn't make entire articles crying about it.

I should also say that I tend to not like Obsidian games. They appear to be a lot like Bioware games so I don't really get how journalists can bash one while praising the other...
 

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"In KOTOR and Jade Empire it pretty much was a 'decide in the last half hour of game whether to pick good or evil ending"

Bullshitz.
 

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cogar48 said:
jiujitsu said:
Hahaha, New Vegas makes Fallout 3 look like total shit.

"BUT WHAR SI TEH GAINT ROBOTZ!??"

"Y CATN I GET POWRA ARMUR!?" (I still haven't figured out how to get power armor yet...)

Power Armor is easy as shit to get. Do main quest. Find BOS. Do quests for BOS. Get Power Armor. :salute:

I did the BOS quests, but Head Paladin Hardin is charging the Elder with some shit to get him ousted and I got no 'give me teh powah amrorz' option. Plus I can't seem to find the paladin in charge of the shooting range, so I can't get the laser pistol back from that thieving initiate.
 

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Volourn said:
"Actually MM7's was a Bioware-style "now pick choice 1 for good and "choice 2 for evil". Boring, but no one plays M&M for the C&C. "

Actually, BIO's C&C are much deeper than that. Sure, most BIO games aren't FO level but most of them are deeper than pick 2 endings at end of game. FFS
There's also a couple minor choices before the good/evil one. What's more important, this specific one alters the game in a way that no Bio product ever did. Pretty much whole second half part of the game plays differently depending on your choice, giving you lots of different quests and sending you to different locations. It also heavily influences character development, by unlocking the most advanced character classes.
 

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Who is this Volourn character everyone keeps arguing with? His posts are not showing up on- Oh wait.


Show/Hide :: Click here to show/hide the hidden post made by Volourn.
 

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Volourn said:
"In KOTOR and Jade Empire it pretty much was a 'decide in the last half hour of game whether to pick good or evil ending"

Bullshitz.

Ha, you speak bullshit. You could be a Sith equivalent all the way through KOTOR and then decide to be a loving Jedi at the very end or vice versa. Same with Jade Empire, could be ultimate badass all the way through then suddenly pick the 'good' ending. Since you obviously never played these games, then you are in no position to comment on anything. This is the crucial flaw with this approach; with one choice it can negate everything that has come before.

Fuck, Metro 2033 did C&C better than ANY Bioware game with the way you could only get a certain ending by playing the game in a certain way, and this was a bloody FPS!

Skyway wannabe.
 

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ITT: Baawwww Obsidian makes a buggy mess once again baaawwww it's all publisher's fault once again baaaawwww and if you'll say that it's never a problem for other devs then you are stupid and suck cock ololololo all smart people know that every publisher wants to lose money by releasing barely playable game


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"Ha, you speak bullshit. You could be a Sith equivalent all the way through KOTOR and then decide to be a loving Jedi at the very end or vice versa. Same with Jade Empire, could be ultimate badass all the way through then suddenly pick the 'good' ending. Since you obviously never played these games, then you are in no position to comment on anything. This is the crucial flaw with this approach; with one choice it can negate everything that has come before.
"

You *do* realize that C&C is more than just the silly endings, right?
 

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Volourn said:
You *do* realize that C&C is more than just the silly endings, right?
Yes, but irrelevant since Bioware have no C&C anyway, ending or otherwise.
 

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"Why the need to lie? "

This is the Coeex and the internet. That's the only reason one needs to lie, you silly goose. :retarded:
 

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Volourn doesn't need any help to answer his questions.
 

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Volourn said:
"Ha, you speak bullshit. You could be a Sith equivalent all the way through KOTOR and then decide to be a loving Jedi at the very end or vice versa. Same with Jade Empire, could be ultimate badass all the way through then suddenly pick the 'good' ending. Since you obviously never played these games, then you are in no position to comment on anything. This is the crucial flaw with this approach; with one choice it can negate everything that has come before.
"

You *do* realize that C&C is more than just the silly endings, right?

It's also about whether or not you will choose the dark side option so you can receive payment for your services.
 

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Even then you usually end up choosing between some gold and a sword or something.
 

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Chefe said:
Volourn said:
"Ha, you speak bullshit. You could be a Sith equivalent all the way through KOTOR and then decide to be a loving Jedi at the very end or vice versa. Same with Jade Empire, could be ultimate badass all the way through then suddenly pick the 'good' ending. Since you obviously never played these games, then you are in no position to comment on anything. This is the crucial flaw with this approach; with one choice it can negate everything that has come before.
"

You *do* realize that C&C is more than just the silly endings, right?

It's also about whether or not you will choose the dark side option so you can receive payment for your services.

Yesh, i fucking hate that bullshit. How come whenever you ask for something in return when agreeing to engage in a life-threatening situation to recover the Ancient Family Matchbox Heirloom of Ass it's automatically assumed you're Evil? Do only Evil people ask for money when performing a service? Fuck, man. It's like the good guys are supposed to rely on looting the dismembered remains of their enemies for monetary sustenance. Next time i go shopping and the lady at the counter tells me to pay up, i'm gonna call her an evil bitch and bolt with all the shit i picked up. Moral highground, feels good man.
 

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madbringer said:
. Next time i go shopping and the lady at the counter tells me to pay up, i'm gonna call her an evil bitch and bolt with all the shit i picked up. Moral highground, feels good man.

If you film this, I'll worship you.
 

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Classic thread. Volourn defending Bio, talking to himself.


Ahhhh, it's the little things you know? It says you're home.
 

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