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[Vaarna_Aarne]

Statwise they don't bring much new to the table, so it's all down to Starship Traits and if Intelligence officers will be worth two shits.

 

[Drakron]

T5U is completely irrelevant upgrade, its not trading one console slot for a ability, its getting one console slot instead of a Lt Cmdr ability.

And those arent even the T6 ships, they are the T6 Intel ships ...that will have a extra console at Fleet.

... I am out.

 

[Vaarna_Aarne]

Actually in terms of abilities they're not really that better off. The closest equivalent ship for cruisers is the D'deridex which has 12 slots (and compared to the Eclipse, it can boast more flexibility due to LtC Sci slot being one of the LtC slots), and all of those extra slots on so-far shown T6s are mostly just sub-optimal windshield decorations. The real power difference is definately going to be in the Starship traits, Active Sensor Scan, and possibly in Intel boffs.

 

[SuicideBunny]

heh, i'm getting gateway timeouts. guess there must be some shitstorm brewing

 

[Vaarna_Aarne]

heh, i'm getting gateway timeouts. guess there must be some shitstorm brewing

Just a prelude for now. The real shitstorm comes when they reveal T5U upgrade price for premium ships.

 

[Norfleet]

Actually in terms of abilities they're not really that better off. The closest equivalent ship for cruisers is the D'deridex which has 12 slots (and compared to the Eclipse, it can boast more flexibility due to LtC Sci slot being one of the LtC slots), and all of those extra slots on so-far shown T6s are mostly just sub-optimal windshield decorations. The real power difference is definately going to be in the Starship traits, Active Sensor Scan, and possibly in Intel boffs.

There will not be a power difference due to the starship traits. It's purely console vs. extra LtC Power, until Fleet T6 comes out and outclasses T5-FU in every way. While T5s don't unlock a trait, nothing prevents you from USING an unlocked trait, so there's no actual difference.

 

[Vaarna_Aarne]

So are we going to assume they'll move SB to have a T6 as well?

 

[Lhynn]

Can someone give me a breakdown of whats cool about this game?
i played it a couple years ago and found it meh, but i probably missed some features or something, because the people that like this game, really like this game.

 

[Bliblablubb]

Eclipse Intel Cruiser
Console Modifications: 3 Tactical, 5 Engineering, 2 Science

I'll pass, thank you very much.

Faeht Intel Lolbird
Console Modifications: 5 Tactical, 2 Engineering, 3 Science

Stop toying with my feelings Craptic damnit!

Now I am torn again between this and the Pseudo-Bugship (doesn't look that bad on the picture anymore)...

 

[Bliblablubb]

Can someone give me a breakdown of whats cool about this game?
i played it a couple years ago and found it meh, but i probably missed some features or something, because the people that like this game, really like this game.

Actually, if a Star Trek themed MMO didn't keep you interested years ago, the game hasn't change enough to reignite your flame. The only really new thing is playing as a Romulan (a Republic splinter group that is), complete with storyline, homeplanet and ships. No real faction though, you have to ally with Feds or Klangs and continue their story missions after ~ lvl 30.

 

[Vaarna_Aarne]

Can someone give me a breakdown of whats cool about this game?
i played it a couple years ago and found it meh, but i probably missed some features or something, because the people that like this game, really like this game.

Actually, if a Star Trek themed MMO didn't keep you interested years ago, the game hasn't change enough to reignite your flame. The only really new thing is playing as a Romulan (a Republic splinter group that is), complete with storyline, homeplanet and ships. No real faction though, you have to ally with Feds or Klangs and continue their story missions after ~ lvl 30.

Though it also bears mention that the game doesn't really even begin until level 30 and 40, since before that you are stuck in extended pre-tutorial since you have access to barely any abilities.

Eclipse Intel Cruiser
Console Modifications: 3 Tactical, 5 Engineering, 2 Science

I'll pass, thank you very much.

I'd say the ship very much has potential. The highest Cruiser console count for Feds is with the Avenger (4, and I very much prefer my Odyssey after using both extensively), but Eclipse has some things going on for it: It's faster, Active Sensor Scan, and it has a much superior boffing layout. The only cruiser that otherwise has 5 Tac consoles is Scimitar.

Now, a real kicker would be if Fleet Eclipse has 4 Tac consoles...


Regarding the Romulan Intelbird, my main attraction to it is simple: It comes with a Yamato Cannon.

 

[Bliblablubb]

With the upcoming Fleet T6 in mind, the Intelbird looks like a decent buy for my toons, with the potential to be a fleet version later.

The real question will be the price for a Fleet T5 -> Fleet T5.5 upgrade. While they cannot compete with a T6 (or a future Fleet T6), a meager 500 potato fee would be an okayish cost saving alternative, since the Rom already has a FT5.
Codexia would need to go the whole "buy T5, buy FT5, upgrade to FT5.5" route, which would be retarded compared to a fresh T6 in terms of cost AND result. Or she could just travel the Delta Quadrant in the Pleasureblimp.


Explorashun like a boss, complete with your own private beach on board!

 

[Vaarna_Aarne]

I'd say 500 cashpotato is way too much. It'd need to be 200, or even less for premium ships. Fleet ships should get a free conversion to T5U.

Btw, does the Love Boat come with a unique interior?

 

[Drakron]

I'd say 500 cashpotato is way too much. It'd need to be 200, or even less for premium ships. Fleet ships should get a free conversion to T5U.

They said 5-10 bucks is what they are aiming at.

Btw, does the Love Boat come with a unique interior?

Risa ships? Nay ...

 

[Vaarna_Aarne]

I'd say 500 cashpotato is way too much. It'd need to be 200, or even less for premium ships. Fleet ships should get a free conversion to T5U.

They said 5-10 bucks is what they are aiming at.

Btw, does the Love Boat come with a unique interior?

Risa ships? Nay ...

Well, I was talking more along the lines of what I'd consider fair pricing for the upgrade.

And phooey, what use is a Love Boat with a built-in beach if you can't even go take a look at that beach?

 

[eklektyk]

slightly off topic but for quite some time i was wondering what to put on my free dyson ships and stil dont have a clue ...

any1 of u runs those ?? what is supposed to be preffered loadout on those ?

and no t5 FU or t6 for me coz of poor potatostan and all that i have only 2 alts so no farm

 

[Bliblablubb]

I'd say 500 cashpotato is way too much. It'd need to be 200, or even less for premium ships. Fleet ships should get a free conversion to T5U.

Btw, does the Love Boat come with a unique interior?

They were already talking about 500-1000, 500 being the maximum I would spend, and only on the fleet version. The Risian Pleasureblimb only has the option to change between "shutters closed", beach and i think jungle. Not that you would notice that outside the customisaton window

 

[Drakron]

Well, I was talking more along the lines of what I'd consider fair pricing for the upgrade.

"Fair" depends on were you sit, Cryptic apparently have no problem in wanting to charge for a extra tier or two price for a "half tier" upgrade, the CDF (that I hope are plants) also think its "fair".

And phooey, what use is a Love Boat with a built-in beach if you can't even go take a look at that beach?

Its a better tactical cruiser that most Fed cruisers.

 

[Bliblablubb]

slightly off topic but for quite some time i was wondering what to put on my free dyson ships and stil dont have a clue ...

any1 of u runs those ?? what is supposed to be preffered loadout on those ?

and no t5 FU or t6 for me coz of poor potatostan and all that i have only 2 alts so no farm

It may help if you say what faction/class your toons are.

I only slapped the protonic lolerons on them, the free DHCs you get from the dyson rep projects. What? I was spacepoor like you! When it comes to not spending moneyz you can always use the dyson console set from the feature episodes, or the Jem Hadar set from the Cardassian arc. I think the JH gives a tiny bonus to polaron weapons, thats why i use it on the U.S.S. Potatotrowel. Aside from the rep weapons (the rom disruptors are verrry nice) the only other free guns are the plasma-disrupter-hybrids (blue quality cannons and beams), or the new antiprotons from an Undine mission (beam array only IIRC, so no good on the dyson boat). Not spending money on the weapons leaves you more to buy blue tac consoles to get the most out of them.
Allah knows you will need it on an "escort" with only 3 tac consoles.

EDIT: the bonus dmg to polaron from having at least two parts of the JH set is actually ~10%.

 

[eklektyk]

well im runing on my fed tac mirror escort with tetryon cannons and there are times when i love that boat and times when its squishines is getting on my nerves
and my klink tac is curently sailing in LOLbelix with swarm pets whatiamcallit and whatever i managed to get from drops/repgrind boxes and put it on ... so here is a place to improve his ride with dyson boat [ will prob end with another cannon setup altho beam are fun too ]

 

[Bliblablubb]

They Dyson destroyer has a fixed Proton DHC front in tacticool mode, making it a beamboat would make it's usefulness even lesser. That's why I consider it a not-so-good "escort": you only get 3 slots in the front to benifit from tac consoles, if you slot a torp only two. With only 3 tac consoles the Dyson's dmg output is rather lacking. If the free T5.5 upgrade would have at least added another tac console, but nooo, another engineering.

well im runing on my fed tac mirror escort with tetryon cannons and there are times when i love that boat and times when its squishines is getting on my nerves

I hope you are not talking about the mirrior universe patrol escort good Sir, because not having a smooth ride with it would be a massive DECLINE on your side. It's the poor man's bugship after all!

 

[eklektyk]

well i am but hear me out:
i often have so much fun blowing ships up that i forget how fragile i am and that leads to respawn timer ... i simply was wondering whether changing boat would give me moar durability with only slightly worse fireworks ...but it looks like dyson boats are a bust and i was too burnt out to collect this years risa boat and only got the old one ... so it looks like i will still fly what i fly now and make do

 

[Bliblablubb]

The MUPE is still a good ride for the Delta Raisin. As is the mirror Qin for Klanks.
Because.... come on! MUPE can run 2 x EPtS, 2 X TacTeam, EngTeam, SciTeam and TSS. PLUS batteries and rep traits AND all your Tac abilities. Nothing short of soloing a Borg Tacticool Cube in ISE should blow you up!

However the Dyson Destroyer DOES get the scaling hp from the free T5.5 upgrade IIRC (and better shields from being a sciboat), so the ~25% loss in dmg could be an acceptable price for you in exchange for a higher survivability.

MUPE > Dyson
BUT
Dyson T5.5 @ lvl60 may be > MUPE depending on your playstyle

I suggest you just run the Dyson T5.5 and not to worry too much.
Use (protonic) Polaron DHCs and 2 parts of the JH set (engine preferable) for the +10% dmg and you are good to go.
The Klang Dyson even gets a 15%(?) dmg bonus shortly after decloaking on top of that.

 

[eklektyk]

thet sounds like it could be worth to test ... in worst case i will go back to whot im using now
i mostly hate slownes of LOLbelix but swarmers are nice [got few 3rd places on crystal event]

will need to run jemhadar missions for stuffies tho

 

[Wild Slop]

How are you holding up, Norfleet ?