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LPs are objectively better than playing the actual game.

1) They're free
2) You don't need to waste hours dealing with shit mindless combat. Just skip right past that shit (I'm looking at you PST and every other damn game out there)
3) Can watch while working
4) No need to blow $$$ on systems/gpu
5) Don't need to worry about bugs/shit mechanics/shit combat design
6) Skip right past the mandatory walking simulation crap
7) No wasted hard drive space
8) They're FREE

Games go from being 50-100 hours in length to about 1.5 hour when you cut the bullshit combat out

Then, hopefully you'll finally realize that a library card offers more value. But that's too hard for us 1st worlders

Imagination is better than watching someone play a video game because-

1) Its really free since you do not need a computer or internet or anything you were not born with
2) You don't need to waste hours dealing with shit mindless combat. Just skip right past that shit (I'm looking at you PST and every other damn game out there)
3) Can watch it while working, while sitting, while cooking, while having sex, while driving, while masterbating, while thinking about masterbating, while thinking about thinking, reading this post, etc
4) No need to blow $$$ on system/gpu
5) Don't need to worry about bugs/shit mechanics/shit combat design
6) Skip right past the mandatory walking simulation crap
7) No wasted hard drive space
8) It is really, really SUPER FREE

Does the same argument apply to playing video games?

Well, it applies to watching someone play video games versus playing the video game and everything you can think of.

As proved by my post and the other person's post the tiers of goodness are as follows

Tier 1 (The best goodness ever) is just imagining things
Tier 2(The second goodness level) is watching people do things that you could easily do, like walking, sitting, watching people watch TV, watching people play video games, watching people write, etc.
Tier 3 (The least goodness level, otherwise known as dumb stupid things) doing something or using something for its intended purpose like watching a movie instead of watching someone watch a movie, playing a video game instead of watching someone play a video game, buying clothes instead of watching other people buy clothes.
 

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Or you could watch a fucking movie instead of watching a game like a fucking normal person with normal faculties would do.


God damn you man boys are annoying with your ham-fisted reasonings.

I have never played Pokeman. In my day kids collected Garbage Pale Kids. If someone over 12 had a garbage pale kid he would have the shit beat out of him on general principle. If someone was unable to grow the fuck up once kids started growing hair on places other than their head, their pears set them straight with pain.

I don't fully know what Pokeman is but I know it isn't an rpg. Period. It is a fucking trading card game of some sort. These games have turn based combat like fucking Monopoly, Shoots and Ladders, Sorry, Operation, and even Mr. Potato Head or any toy if you only had one.
Bethesda hasn't made a crpg since Daggerfall, so what the fuck does a console game maker have to do with kids toys?
How does a fucking trading card game have a dungeon? What the fuck do puzzles have to do with anything? Is it a crossword puzzle? Minesweeper? Jigsaw? What?
I am truly hoping most people hear do not know exactly what the fuck pokeman is, like normal people don't, so saying most of the people here played it in any capacity is hopefully grossly inaccurate or the world is closer to armagedon than we could ever have imagined without this very pertinent information.

If I asked my wife to play pokeman with me she would slap me like a bitch and leave me and find a man with working testicles that would never request that ever of her (I hope). This should go triple for a girlfriend since she has less tied up with you. All my wife's and my shit are all tied up together and we have kids. A girlfriend could just slap you and leave and laugh about you with all her friends. Any man who likes kids shit is not mating material. Any girl who thinks otherwise is defective and should not breed ever.

Any male over the age of 12 that says cute about anything besides a girl he wants to fuck but doesn't want to sound too interested in (like, "yeah, she is cute I guess") should be executed. It is a girl word, like comfy, and cozy, and bubbly. Guys don't say these things.

You fucking millennials really need to grow the fuck up. Life isn't about hanging on to your childhood as long as possible. Grow up, move out of your parents/grandparent's house, get a job doing whatever, just something to earn cash and feel what pride and real accomplishment is, how rough life can be, and how difficult it can be to provide for yourself. But being your own man. Standing on your own two feet. Answerable to no one and nothing outside of work. Independent. Free. Adult. Responsible. No kids shit.

And no kids shit doesn't mean no good shit. Read the Godfather. Read Shogun. Read the greats like A Mote in God's Eye. Get in trouble. Get in fights. Fuck everything with your hole of preference that will let you. Do drugs. Hang out with homeless crackheads for entertainment. Do adult shit. Just stop justifying this nonsense kid shit. It is just like this Brony? The my little pony adult guys. It is weird and not normal and should be stopped. Stop it now, for the sake of humanity and future generations stop this right now.
Maybe you should watch a let's play of pokemon.
 
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LPs are objectively better than playing the actual game.

1) They're free
2) You don't need to waste hours dealing with shit mindless combat. Just skip right past that shit (I'm looking at you PST and every other damn game out there)
3) Can watch while working
4) No need to blow $$$ on systems/gpu
5) Don't need to worry about bugs/shit mechanics/shit combat design
6) Skip right past the mandatory walking simulation crap
7) No wasted hard drive space
8) They're FREE

Games go from being 50-100 hours in length to about 1.5 hour when you cut the bullshit combat out

Then, hopefully you'll finally realize that a library card offers more value. But that's too hard for us 1st worlders

Dude you can use the same argument for comparing watching porn with having real sex. Are you possibly retarded? :|
 

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LPs are objectively better than playing the actual game.

1) They're free
2) You don't need to waste hours dealing with shit mindless combat. Just skip right past that shit (I'm looking at you PST and every other damn game out there)
3) Can watch while working
4) No need to blow $$$ on systems/gpu
5) Don't need to worry about bugs/shit mechanics/shit combat design
6) Skip right past the mandatory walking simulation crap
7) No wasted hard drive space
8) They're FREE

Games go from being 50-100 hours in length to about 1.5 hour when you cut the bullshit combat out

Then, hopefully you'll finally realize that a library card offers more value. But that's too hard for us 1st worlders

Dude you can use the same argument for comparing watching porn with having real sex. Are you possibly retarded? :|
But you never had sex, unless you want to be beheaded for zina. :P
 
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LPs are objectively better than playing the actual game. They're free

Imagination is better than watching someone play a video game because its really free since you do not need a computer or internet or anything you were not born with

Meditation is better than imagining playing a game, because you don't need to think. It's super free

Dying is better than meditation, because you don't need to make the effort to stop thinking every single time after you are dead

It's better to never have been born than dying, because you don't need to die in the first place
 
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I can only imagine that people who don't like Let's Plays are people who grew up without friends. Are people who have no interest in seeing how someone else plays a game they've just played. Are people who never want to see what all the fuss is about regarding a game they're not going to buy. Are people who never want to check out a game they're thinking about buying but are on the fence. Are people who are happy to make random moral judgements about matters that have no context in morality because they actually think they're unironicly wise.
 

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Are people who are happy to make random moral judgements about matters that have no context in morality because they actually think they're unironicly wise

Duh


I can only imagine that people who don't like Let's Plays are people who grew up without friends


Not really. I just always found it kind of odd because it seems so derivative. And for some reason doing this in video games felt really odd to me.

But then I thought of how many other similar things I find entertaining: cooking shows, porn, sports, etc. Actually, hats off to this thread and sstacks recent LP for helping me make the connection.

I think I kind of get it now. LPs and twitch are basically just tv. It's shit that's entertaining to watch. The fact that it's a video game that I might or might not play is incidental. Truly, I used to think people watching LPs were doing it as a substitute to gaming. And I think that's how Roqua is thinking about it as well. But watching a good LP is its own type of entertainment. And if the LP is good enough it might even be superior to the experience you get from playing the game itself.

After all, playing a shitty game is frustrating and often sad and dissapointing. But watching a funny LP as someone does the same is a ton more entertaining. I actually experienced this myself when I watched an LP of some shitty Russian version of Fallout 1 (Kri Mea i think?). I was literally doing my best not to bust out laughing at work.

Then I watched sstacks play 30 or so minutes of an indie Ultima-like game. Almost the same amount of time I spent on it as well. It was interesting to see him take some similar routes as I did. Sometimes he even did things differently or had different opinions of game mechanics. Also, I laughed when he died the first time because his voice was so incredulous at the way he had died. He was completely surprised at how damaging a specific trap (which he encountered in-game for the first time) was to his PC.

In terms of liking Pokemon...meh. I think there is definitely a line where as a grown man it is very strange behavior. However, the game in and of itself? Nah, I don't think it's that big of a deal. Especially not when I watch all kinds of stupid anime, and I consider myself one of the manliest people on this rock.
 

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I'm torn on this issue - on one hand, pokemen is fucking retarded, on the other hand, rogua is a mental case.
I think the correct procedure is to ban rogue and fuck his wife.
 

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Da fuck would you spend hours watching someone else play a game on youtube? Why? How is that even entertaining?
When you hate greedy pigs, and don't have space (or sufficiently powerful PC HW) for pirated version, you watch it on Twitch. The same applies for console games without emulator.
 
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The only reasons to watch a LP are (1) if you want desperately to play that game, but you don’t have access to it; (2) you are watching masterful gameplay and want to learn something.

We could watch our friends playing games when we couldn’t play all at the same time, but the atmosphere was tense and filled which cheers and comments. Watching some random dude playing a game on-line is not the same thing at all.

Roqua is not a mental case, but just a flamboyant attention whore.
 

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Are people who are happy to make random moral judgements about matters that have no context in morality because they actually think they're unironicly wise

Duh


I can only imagine that people who don't like Let's Plays are people who grew up without friends


Not really. I just always found it kind of odd because it seems so derivative. And for some reason doing this in video games felt really odd to me.

But then I thought of how many other similar things I find entertaining: cooking shows, porn, sports, etc. Actually, hats off to this thread and sstacks recent LP for helping me make the connection.

I think I kind of get it now. LPs and twitch are basically just tv. It's shit that's entertaining to watch. The fact that it's a video game that I might or might not play is incidental. Truly, I used to think people watching LPs were doing it as a substitute to gaming. And I think that's how Roqua is thinking about it as well. But watching a good LP is its own type of entertainment. And if the LP is good enough it might even be superior to the experience you get from playing the game itself.

After all, playing a shitty game is frustrating and often sad and dissapointing. But watching a funny LP as someone does the same is a ton more entertaining. I actually experienced this myself when I watched an LP of some shitty Russian version of Fallout 1 (Kri Mea i think?). I was literally doing my best not to bust out laughing at work.

Then I watched sstacks play 30 or so minutes of an indie Ultima-like game. Almost the same amount of time I spent on it as well. It was interesting to see him take some similar routes as I did. Sometimes he even did things differently or had different opinions of game mechanics. Also, I laughed when he died the first time because his voice was so incredulous at the way he had died. He was completely surprised at how damaging a specific trap (which he encountered in-game for the first time) was to his PC.

In terms of liking Pokemon...meh. I think there is definitely a line where as a grown man it is very strange behavior. However, the game in and of itself? Nah, I don't think it's that big of a deal. Especially not when I watch all kinds of stupid anime, and I consider myself one of the manliest people on this rock.

Yep, LPs and Twitch are basically like TV to me and many others. I often leave them running on monitor #2 while I work on monitor #1.

Glad my Bludgeons and Krakens LP was interesting for ya. And yep I was totally flabbergasted when that trap was instakill.
 

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I can only imagine that people who don't like Let's Plays are people who grew up without friends. Are people who have no interest in seeing how someone else plays a game they've just played. Are people who never want to see what all the fuss is about regarding a game they're not going to buy. Are people who never want to check out a game they're thinking about buying but are on the fence. Are people who are happy to make random moral judgements about matters that have no context in morality because they actually think they're unironicly wise.

1) I think people with friends have better things o do than watch other people playing video games on the internet.
2) Why would I want to see how someone played I game I already played? If I am still interested in a game I already played I play it again, with new mods maybe. I fucking bought the game specifically to play it, not to watch it be played.
3) Why would I want to see what the fuss is about if I am not buying it? This is hipster thinking. If I want something I buy it, if I don't want it I am not interested and do not buy.
4) If I am on the fence about buying a game I ask specific questions that will tip me either way. I watch trailers. If the trailer has no game play, and the bullets do not answer what I want to know, they do not want my business and I do not buy. Its called not being retarded. If anything, I am sick of all the people with poor taste lying about games and sayi8ng monkey games are challenging or have depth when they are just hipster trash. That is why I am very specific with my questions if I have any.
5) Do you mean morals as in a society's norms and mores? If so they are meant to be judged in the context I subjectively see them. If you mean morals as in ethics, it is a school of philosophy, along with epistemology and metaphysics. In which case I am specifically supposed to make moral judgments, and my judgment should logically dictate my reasoning for judging things so. Or you could be a sheep, like you, and just regurgitate the talking points of your betters like a good mindless sheep.
6) You are another monkey that cannot see the forest through the trees. You are most likely a millennial and a hipster. You were raised to think your uneducated and inexperienced opinion actually matters when it does not. You were also raised to believe you are morally superior, and self-righteously so, as most dimwitted cult members do. You know nothing but what you are told to believe and like, you like what everyone else likes and what is safe to like. You think you are so-edgy and different when you are exactly like the rest of your failed generation of humorousness monkey sheep bleaters, bleating your monkey sheep blahs.
7) People like you will make the culling extra fun and exciting.
 

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Da fuck would you spend hours watching someone else play a game on youtube? Why? How is that even entertaining?
When you hate greedy pigs, and don't have space (or sufficiently powerful PC HW) for pirated version, you watch it on Twitch. The same applies for console games without emulator.

Or you just get good taste, since every good game worth playing is on the pc and can run on potatoes.
 
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I can only imagine that people who don't like Let's Plays are people who grew up without friends. Are people who have no interest in seeing how someone else plays a game they've just played. Are people who never want to see what all the fuss is about regarding a game they're not going to buy. Are people who never want to check out a game they're thinking about buying but are on the fence. Are people who are happy to make random moral judgements about matters that have no context in morality because they actually think they're unironicly wise.

1) I think people with friends have better things o do than watch other people playing video games on the internet.
2) Why would I want to see how someone played I game I already played? If I am still interested in a game I already played I play it again, with new mods maybe. I fucking bought the game specifically to play it, not to watch it be played.
3) Why would I want to see what the fuss is about if I am not buying it? This is hipster thinking. If I want something I buy it, if I don't want it I am not interested and do not buy.
4) If I am on the fence about buying a game I ask specific questions that will tip me either way. I watch trailers. If the trailer has no game play, and the bullets do not answer what I want to know, they do not want my business and I do not buy. Its called not being retarded. If anything, I am sick of all the people with poor taste lying about games and sayi8ng monkey games are challenging or have depth when they are just hipster trash. That is why I am very specific with my questions if I have any.
5) Do you mean morals as in a society's norms and mores? If so they are meant to be judged in the context I subjectively see them. If you mean morals as in ethics, it is a school of philosophy, along with epistemology and metaphysics. In which case I am specifically supposed to make moral judgments, and my judgment should logically dictate my reasoning for judging things so. Or you could be a sheep, like you, and just regurgitate the talking points of your betters like a good mindless sheep.
6) You are another monkey that cannot see the forest through the trees. You are most likely a millennial and a hipster. You were raised to think your uneducated and inexperienced opinion actually matters when it does not. You were also raised to believe you are morally superior, and self-righteously so, as most dimwitted cult members do. You know nothing but what you are told to believe and like, you like what everyone else likes and what is safe to like. You think you are so-edgy and different when you are exactly like the rest of your failed generation of humorousness monkey sheep bleaters, bleating your monkey sheep blahs.
7) People like you will make the culling extra fun and exciting.


Why are you watching television when you could be reading the news yourself?

Why are watching a play when you could be acting one out yourself?

Why are you watching a rocket leave for the moon when you could be on that rocket?

Why are you watching two people fight in the ring when you could be out there fighting with them?

Why are you watching other people's posts on the codex when all of them could be your posts?

Why are you watching porn when you could be out having sex yourself?

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Are people who are happy to make random moral judgements about matters that have no context in morality because they actually think they're unironicly wise

Duh


I can only imagine that people who don't like Let's Plays are people who grew up without friends


Not really. I just always found it kind of odd because it seems so derivative. And for some reason doing this in video games felt really odd to me.

But then I thought of how many other similar things I find entertaining: cooking shows, porn, sports, etc. Actually, hats off to this thread and sstacks recent LP for helping me make the connection.

I think I kind of get it now. LPs and twitch are basically just tv. It's shit that's entertaining to watch. The fact that it's a video game that I might or might not play is incidental. Truly, I used to think people watching LPs were doing it as a substitute to gaming. And I think that's how Roqua is thinking about it as well. But watching a good LP is its own type of entertainment. And if the LP is good enough it might even be superior to the experience you get from playing the game itself.

After all, playing a shitty game is frustrating and often sad and dissapointing. But watching a funny LP as someone does the same is a ton more entertaining. I actually experienced this myself when I watched an LP of some shitty Russian version of Fallout 1 (Kri Mea i think?). I was literally doing my best not to bust out laughing at work.

Then I watched sstacks play 30 or so minutes of an indie Ultima-like game. Almost the same amount of time I spent on it as well. It was interesting to see him take some similar routes as I did. Sometimes he even did things differently or had different opinions of game mechanics. Also, I laughed when he died the first time because his voice was so incredulous at the way he had died. He was completely surprised at how damaging a specific trap (which he encountered in-game for the first time) was to his PC.

In terms of liking Pokemon...meh. I think there is definitely a line where as a grown man it is very strange behavior. However, the game in and of itself? Nah, I don't think it's that big of a deal. Especially not when I watch all kinds of stupid anime, and I consider myself one of the manliest people on this rock.

Yep, LPs and Twitch are basically like TV to me and many others. I often leave them running on monitor #2 while I work on monitor #1.

Glad my Bludgeons and Krakens LP was interesting for ya. And yep I was totally flabbergasted when that trap was instakill.


Crazy hallucinations and voices in the head is like TV/Radio to many people, and society forces them to take crazy pills. Anyone who finds watching other people play video games more interesting than pretty much any other activity has to be considered almost as crazy and forced to take pills.

Please tell me this. I buy games to play them myself. Why should I, as a sane person, ever watch you play a game? To ruin it for me? So I can overcome my own stupidity and learn how to play it "right." Because my taste is so bad I find you more entertaining the a game I actually paid money for and decided to not have refunded?

Try to sell this to me. What is your pitch? What can I get from watching you play a game? Because from where I am sitting this looks like monkeys throwing shit at stupider and crazier monkeys and them just lapping the feces up in some sort of cult like ritual of stupidity.
 
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Because from where I am sitting this looks like monkeys throwing shit at stupider and crazier monkeys and them just lapping the feces up in some sort of cult like ritual of stupidity.

You mean.. like every single other activity humans do ?
 

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I can only imagine that people who don't like Let's Plays are people who grew up without friends. Are people who have no interest in seeing how someone else plays a game they've just played. Are people who never want to see what all the fuss is about regarding a game they're not going to buy. Are people who never want to check out a game they're thinking about buying but are on the fence. Are people who are happy to make random moral judgements about matters that have no context in morality because they actually think they're unironicly wise.

1) I think people with friends have better things o do than watch other people playing video games on the internet.
2) Why would I want to see how someone played I game I already played? If I am still interested in a game I already played I play it again, with new mods maybe. I fucking bought the game specifically to play it, not to watch it be played.
3) Why would I want to see what the fuss is about if I am not buying it? This is hipster thinking. If I want something I buy it, if I don't want it I am not interested and do not buy.
4) If I am on the fence about buying a game I ask specific questions that will tip me either way. I watch trailers. If the trailer has no game play, and the bullets do not answer what I want to know, they do not want my business and I do not buy. Its called not being retarded. If anything, I am sick of all the people with poor taste lying about games and sayi8ng monkey games are challenging or have depth when they are just hipster trash. That is why I am very specific with my questions if I have any.
5) Do you mean morals as in a society's norms and mores? If so they are meant to be judged in the context I subjectively see them. If you mean morals as in ethics, it is a school of philosophy, along with epistemology and metaphysics. In which case I am specifically supposed to make moral judgments, and my judgment should logically dictate my reasoning for judging things so. Or you could be a sheep, like you, and just regurgitate the talking points of your betters like a good mindless sheep.
6) You are another monkey that cannot see the forest through the trees. You are most likely a millennial and a hipster. You were raised to think your uneducated and inexperienced opinion actually matters when it does not. You were also raised to believe you are morally superior, and self-righteously so, as most dimwitted cult members do. You know nothing but what you are told to believe and like, you like what everyone else likes and what is safe to like. You think you are so-edgy and different when you are exactly like the rest of your failed generation of humorousness monkey sheep bleaters, bleating your monkey sheep blahs.
7) People like you will make the culling extra fun and exciting.


Why are you watching television when you could be reading the news yourself?

Why are watching a play when you could be acting one out yourself?

Why are you watching a rocket leave for the moon when you could be on that rocket?

Why are you watching two people fight in the ring when you could be out there fighting with them?

Why are you watching other people's posts on the codex when all of them could be your posts?

Why are you watching porn when you could be out having sex yourself?

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1) This is fucking stupid, TV has more than news. Also, I covered all this.
2) Because I am not an actor. I don't buy a role in a play. I buy tickets to the play. I buy a game. the game was meant to be played, not watch. A game's function is to be played.
3) Because I would not pass the drug test to be an astronaut and all my degrees are finance and business related and not space exploration related.
4) Because getting beat up by professionals sucks. Anyone that isn't retarded is good at rpgs. Only fucking cretin monkeys and children are not. The games we are supposed to be interested in because we post on this site are not esports. And only a very small amount of people watching other people play video games is esports related. Period. Do normal people go and watch 5 year olds plat T ball just because watching baseball is fun? No, people watch the good games, games the best play at. Unlike with people watching others play video games.
5) Communication only works with two or more people. Again, you prove have retarded you are.
6) Why would anyone watch porn when they could have sex? This is the stupidest thing you have asked. Only people stupid enough to watch other people play video games would rather watch people have sex than actually have sex.
 

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Because from where I am sitting this looks like monkeys throwing shit at stupider and crazier monkeys and them just lapping the feces up in some sort of cult like ritual of stupidity.

You mean.. like every single other activity humans do ?

Such as, Smartypants? Just how stupid do you want to end up looking? How old are you? Like 12? The quality of your thinking is so poor I kind of feel bad replying to your gibberish.
 

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