On the subject of NSFW pics on the forum.

[Excalibur]

nothing makes my day more then seeing a huge anus and knowing at least my asshole doesnt look like that

 

[mathboy]

nothing makes my day more then seeing a huge anus and knowing at least my asshole doesnt look like that

Just wait till I'm finished with you.

 

[Thrawn05]

I vote occasional. A moderate amount of control is needed, but nothing iron fisted.

 

[Excalibur]

nothing makes my day more then seeing a huge anus and knowing at least my asshole doesnt look like that

Just wait till I'm finished with you.

awsome, can you make sure its more swollen and red, kinda like a babboons ass?

lol

 

[LlamaGod]

Why the fuck do you come to RPGCodex during work?

I never got the point of sites with a history of having some questionable material having 'NSFW' rules (i.e. YTMND and such) when you shouldnt be going to the website during work to begin with

 

[DarkUnderlord]

It takes all of about 0.3 seconds to identify an image of tubgirl on a computer screen and 0.2 seconds after that to scroll passed. Amounting to a total viewable time of 0.5 seconds in which tubgirl or similar gaping anus, shit, Hentai picture will be visible to said employer. The probabilities of your boss looking over your shoulder at that exact moment are low, even lower if you know you shouldn't be stealing company bandwidth and quickly alt-tab the browser whenever your boss comes near. Thus severley limiting the possibility of tubgirl being witnessed by said employer. I know, as that's about how long it takes me to do at work myself, which I have done on many occasions.

That's exactly my thoughts on this matter: it's not clever, not cool, and idiotic.

How is that relevant to this discussion though? Half of what people write on this forum is not clever, not cool and definately idiotic to quite some degree. Will we start editing and banning those people's posts too? Will we begin to judge everything on the forum and will anything that is "not clever, not cool and idiotic" be removed? Actually, that would get rid of Volourn once and for all... Probably a few other annoying posters too. But what about that "O RLY" picture spree a while back? That's not exactly "unsafe for work" but some people saw it as annoying and totally "uncool".

Even an occasionally posted picture can do the damage we are trying to prevent

What damage is that, exactly? How many people are we scaring off with our images as opposed to the sheer amount that are scared off by the crap we post? I'd argue the latter is more prevalent than the former as I recall some people commenting about "our attitude" being what keeps them away, as opposed to the odd picture of tubgirl specifically.

What's "in moderation". How much is too much? Is once a week ok? Once a day? Once a month?

That's an issue moderators deal with on a daily basis. At what point do we move a thread into Retardo Land? At what point does someone get the dumfuck tag? At what point does Volourn's "OMG u stop stalking me" start to get annoying? A moderator who can't make those judgements shouldn't be a moderator because that's what moderates do, they moderate.

And why do we need this shit at all? Because it's so witty, and great, and awesome to look at?

Again, completely irrelevant to the argument you're trying to make. We're either removing these because it's about poor defenseless people at work who have rights or it's because we think tubgirl is "uncool" and "old". If it's the latter, I'm strongly against it because "who made that decision"? Sure tubgirl and goatse are old. That's partly the point. But what about all the other jokes, images and shenanigans that very quickly get "old"?

Your other argument on "NSFW" has more merit but again, there are an awful lot of chances for a boss to fire someone and what about that poor sod who does get tricked by that hidden link and does get fired? Is it really his fault he clicked on an "Interview with Tim Cain" and went off to answer the phone only to come back and find tubgirl glaring at him from his PC screen and his boss standing over it?

If we're going to go ahead and ban all NSFW pics, then I'd also like a definition on what those images are because so far, again, you've said judegemental words like "uncool" and "idiotic" and not specifics like "porn" or "contains faeces". When I was in the South Australian Government, viewing anything game-related was "NSFW". That has meant me being awfully careful about even looking at screenshots of computer games while at work. Is it just going to be things remotely pornographic, are harlequin fetuses included and what about that hentai thread? Are such threads going to be banned on the Codex now?

With that said, I don't think the Codex should become a "free-for-all" but there is the odd occasion when tricking someone to click on tubgirl or posting it openly just for the hell of it is humourus to some degree (as in that NSFW thread previously which ended with the comment "I'm not going to look at this thread again because it's going to be full of NSFW images"). There are also some links which should be edited out like those ones that crash your computer with a hundred-thousand never-ending pop-ups.

... but we don't need specific blanket forum rules. We don't need a "Rules for teh forums lawlz" sticky thread in GD. Blanket rules have always been completely daft and unenforceable. Particularly ones made on such personally judgemental issues because an image is deemed "old" and "no longer funny" by one or two of the moderators.

What the Codex does need is good solid moderation on an ongoing basis like we have historically had. Even then it's only to grab the things that get out of control like Volourn's posts in site feedback or moving some of the more stupid "Will my PC run Oblivion" copycat threads into Retardo Land. That's why Retardo Land was created and it's also why we don't moderate everything to death. Almost everything is acceptable in moderation. It was at the core of why the Codex forums were set up to be so "liberal" in the first place.

 

[Vault Dweller]

@ LlamaGod: Now you are going to tell people what they should and shouldn't do while at work? Coming from a person who probably isn't old enough to have a job, at least not the kind where computers are involved, it's very amusing.

 

[Seven]

I haven't had a chance to read the entire topic, so I'll just post my opinion. Initially, these forums were mostly full of thoughtful discussion with the occasional spam for humor (actually, now that I think about it, the spam was mostly one-liners from Volourn). Now it seems like there's mostly spam and not much thoughtful discussion. I don't think that this is because the Codex has "dumbed down" (although, I'll admit that there are some pretty stupid people around these days and some of the long time members seem to think that this is the post your sexual fantasies codex), mostly I think (and hope) that the off topic junk is the result of idle hands (no good RPGs to discuss). Hopefully things will improve and there'll be no need for moderation, but if things don't improve I'd whole heartedly support retardo-landing some of the more ridiculous linkings and such.

 

[Jason]

What DU said is what I wish I had said earlier. Excellent post.

 

[LlamaGod]

@ LlamaGod: Now you are going to tell people what they should and shouldn't do while at work? Coming from a person who probably isn't old enough to have a job, at least not the kind where computers are involved, it's very amusing.

yeah, common sense is such a stupid thing to have. how dare I suggest retards actually have some.

IM GONNA VISIT ROTTEN.COM AT WORK, GOD HELP ANYONE IF I SEE SOMETHING OFFENSIVE

 

[kris]

IM GONNA VISIT ROTTEN.COM AT WORK, GOD HELP ANYONE IF I SEE SOMETHING OFFENSIVE

Because this site should be about roleplaying games? Not about "Rotten" stuff?

 

[Section8]

Common sense would dictate that an RPG site is very different to a shock site, and that's the point being discussed here -

Should RPG Codex be one of those sites where it's common sense to not visit it at work, and if so, why?

The way I see it, with freedom comes responsibility, and if people aren't capable of being responsible, then the simplest remedy is to revoke freedom.

And besides, enforcing a "NSFW work shit behind links" policy is hardly draconian. It's providing greater freedom to the many at a minor cost to the individual.

 

[Country_Gravy]

Common sense would dictate that an RPG site is very different to a shock site, and that's the point being discussed here -

Should RPG Codex be one of those sites where it's common sense to not visit it at work, and if so, why?

The way I see it, with freedom comes responsibility, and if people aren't capable of being responsible, then the simplest remedy is to revoke freedom.

And besides, enforcing a "NSFW work shit behind links" policy is hardly draconian. It's providing greater freedom to the many at a minor cost to the individual.

Oh, yeah. I bet that's what Hitler would have said you fucking fascist!

 

[LlamaGod]

This isn't a 'normal' RPG site. We dont sit around and giggle like RPGDot. There is swearing and offensive images now and then. If you come here during work, you're taking a risk.

I think the whole 'NSFW' thing for any website is retarded.

Not that Tubgirl should be spammed, because spam is bad, but going all 'DO NSFW, GRR, IM STUPID And VISIT A RISKY SITE AT WORK'.

 

[Rat Keeng]

I've yet to have a job that allowed me the time, or the freedom, to visit leisure websites. I'm not gonna preach work ethic or anything, but I would think someone who has something worthwhile to contribute, should be savvy enough to disable images, switch windows, close the browser or whatever if the boss walks by. If you can do without smilies and avatars, disabling images is a good thing.

The only risk then would be if someone posted an ASCII-fied version of Tubgirl or something.

 

[DarkUnderlord]

How's this. What if I threw in two options in the forum, next to the "You have X new messages", we have "Disable images in posts" (IE: Make Forum Work Safe Friendly) and "Enable images in posts". So if you're at work, you can click that and it'll disable all images in threads. Instead, it will show them as URL links.

Then when you're not at work, you can click on the "enable" link and the forum reverts to normal. It'd have benefits beyond just NSFW images including people on slow connections or people who just don't like encountering giant 1200 pixel wide images on their 800 pixel wide screen.

Thoughts?

 

[Calis]

Good idea, all for it.

 

[hiciacit]

Why the fuck do you come to RPGCodex during work?

Don't have an internet connection at home at the moment.

How's this. What if I threw in two options in the forum, next to the "You have X new messages", we have "Disable images in posts" (IE: Make Forum Work Safe Friendly) and "Enable images in posts". So if you're at work, you can click that and it'll disable all images in threads. Instead, it will show them as URL links.

Great idea!

 

[ixg]

just keep it in links.

 

[kingcomrade]

stuff

That would be very convenient.

 

[Vault Dweller]

This isn't a 'normal' RPG site. We dont sit around and giggle like RPGDot. There is swearing and offensive images now and then. If you come here during work, you're taking a risk.

I fucking hope that the difference between us and RPG Dot is not that we can post offensive images. If it is, I'll do my best to fix that and ban every stupid motherfucker who thinks that posting pictures is teh fun.

<the option thing>

What's wrong with links again?

 

[kris]

It is a human right to be offensive.

 

[Kamaz]

http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/206/goatse039vy.jpg

(I reallly wanted to do this here)

(Maybe some people allready tried this before me and got banned.)

(Lol)

(8 phases of the Goatse - http://www.the-elite.net/ClarkPage/Phases/)

PS:
Ironically, this is my 555th psot on this forum.

Edit: I really hope it was worth it, Kamaz. I may unban your stupid ass later, lurk for now until you learn to behave. - VD

 

[Fintilgin]

How's this. What if I threw in two options in the forum, next to the "You have X new messages", we have "Disable images in posts" (IE: Make Forum Work Safe Friendly) and "Enable images in posts". So if you're at work, you can click that and it'll disable all images in threads. Instead, it will show them as URL links.

It would be good if it defaulted to disabled images if you aren't logged in. When I, and possibly others, pop on to lurk during lunch break I often don't bother to log in.

As for the NSFW stuff I think it ought to stay behind links at a minimum. It's not witty, it's not funny, it's about as cutting edge as 'All Your Base', and, in my opinion it just dosen't really belong here. An unmoderated, rough-and-tumble RPG site with intellegent discussion is a great thing. Letting the Codex degenerate into a cesspool of unfunny, juvenile, pornographic 'gotchas' ain't.

 

[Vault Dweller]

Kamaz, you are a one dumb bitch. Have it your way.