Paradox games no longer removed from SteamSpy!

[Hirato]

https://archive.is/2HjaI

 

[taxalot]

It's the same logic behind journalists respecting that insane stupid shit which is also called a "NDA".

 

[tormund]

I wonder what is it that Paradox is so afraid of, that other and bigger publishers who that never tried to block Steam Spy from showing stats about their games aren't...

 

[Thane Solus]

I wonder what is it that Paradox is so afraid of, that other and bigger publishers who that never tried to block Steam Spy from showing stats about their games aren't...

Maybe to cover the bullshit in their press releases "we sold 1 gazillion copies, shareholders we are awesome " ... no you didnt! not according to steamspy, "oh ok, lets remove it from there"

 

[DramaticPopcorn]

https://archive.is/2HjaI

I hope he didn't outright comply but actually milked them for some sweet DLC packs

 

[Makabb]

Never gonna buy a paradox game again, they are worse than EA at this point, 20 dlc's for one game.

 

[Azalin]

Inb4 Paradox adds sales number dlc in each of their games

Now you can see the sales number of CK2 in real time for just 1.99

 

[Hirato]

I wonder who did the split, I'd have thought the Best Thread Ever would've been the perfect place for this.

 

[racofer]

https://archive.is/2HjaI

gud goy

 

[Average Manatee]

I hope he didn't outright comply but actually milked them for some sweet DLC packs

Est retail value: $300k

 

[The Brazilian Slaughter]

Jewing intensifies

Enviado de meu SM-G3502T usando Tapatalk

 

[Roguey]

EA and Activision let SteamSpy show their numbers but not Paradox!

(though I imagine this is because they either don't know about it or don't care if it's only PC numbers)

 

[pippin]

Corporate espionage is one hell of a thing-

 

[Unkillable Cat]

I wonder who did the split, I'd have thought the Best Thread Ever would've been the perfect place for this.

Smells of Infinitron. He tends to split off threads from megathreads when he deems them worthy of being stand-alone threads.

(In this case I agree with him.)

 

[vonAchdorf]

If sales numbers are closely guarded in the industry - why do they report them accurately to an industry organization? Also why do they care if the numbers are off? This should actually help them obfuscate the real, well guarded sales numbers.

If you then go start basing a lot of assumptions on that particular figure the "wrongness" gets compounded.
You wouldn't believe how many indies I've talked to who've based entire business cases on steamspy "owner" numbers. Thinking those incorrect numbers are something to rely on.

How caring.

 

[Lightsinthesky]

Man I didn't think much of paradox before but going public is really turning them turbojew

 

[Ninjerk]

Man I didn't think much of paradox before but going public is really turning them turbojew

That's what going public is all about.

 

[Renegen]

I thought public companies had to be honest with their investors.

 

[Lone Wolf]

Renegen, their investors would have fairly detailed corporate financial statements available.

The layman taking a peek on SteamSpy doesn't qualify for that tag.

RE: the larger issue - no idea why they did it, and that whole 'closely guarded information' angle doesn't really fly. Especially since their data seems positive, rather than negative (i.e. Stellaris has done well, by any measure). Nonetheless, my feelings on this are ambivalent, rather than negative. I'm not one of those people who judges the quality of boxing matches by PPV buys, or the quality of games by the number of owners.

 

[vonAchdorf]

I wonder what they think they have to gain from this. I think we can rule out that their motivation was to prevent fledgling indies from making wrong assumptions based on SteamSpy.

 

[MadMaxHellfire]

i honestly don't understand what all this means.
i mean: why? what does it change? what does if affects? "fucking nothing at fucking all" would be my answer, that's why i don't understand what's this about.

 

[Average Manatee]

They just had their IPO at the beginning of the month. This means that making their company seem very, very good throughout this week will be very profitable to them. Even a few pennies higher per share sold translates into millions of dollars for them.

However good the real numbers are they still want to upsell and pretend they are better than they are. This is also probably why both Stellaris and HoI4 are launching within a timespan of less than a month: to boost the short term growth and therefore get huge returns on their IPO even if it results in worse sales (due to the games being rushed and eating each other's market share).

e.g., Tencent apparently just bought 5% of their stock and it netted Paradox $21 million.

 

[Telengard]

What do they have to gain? Why, protecting themselves from having to endlessly explain to potential initial investors why their numbers conflict with Steamspy numbers, and that the company numbers are not lies.

Keep in mind that investors are idiotic herd animals that dump stock when there is a rumor that there is a ghost somewhere nearby that said boo. A significant difference between expected sales and actual sales can greatly influence stock price. And when your sales for individual titles are not huge, the statistical difference from Steamspy's sampling method can be a significant enough percentage difference from reality to affect investor morale.

 

[Bustamonte]

The real reason is that gaben is a shitlord and they are too :inclusive: to associate with him.

 

[adrix89]

Aren't quarterly reports quarterly?

While they may be more accurate if their strategy is to burn bridges for short term profits it makes sense to stop SteamSpy that updates in a week.