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Paradox increase prices in poor countries, change their minds after getting reviewbombed lol

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Damn. if I was rich I'd sue Paradox to the ground over this.
 

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There is no grounds to sue them over yes. While what they did is p. questionable it's perfectly legal, although the excuse they gave is funny. They said something about correcting the prices for local currencies, but only did so in currencies which this would lead to a price increase.
 

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Yeah, nothing was really said there, except that they are standing by the price increase. But hey, they got to "harmonize price points for our games across the globe" (what ever the fuck that means?). Remember though, you, the community is still very important and remember to buy our overpriced DLCs (and now games)!
 

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As a lefty all I can say is a) :mob: and b)
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Yeah, nothing was really said there, except that they are standing by the price increase. But hey, they got to "harmonize price points for our games across the globe" (what ever the fuck that means?). Remember though, you, the community is still very important and remember to buy our overpriced DLCs (and now games)!
Yeah their harmonized price will be one black pearl from the looks of it.Oh well that is what you get for harmonizing greed with stupidity.
 

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Lolwut:
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/foru...-information-thread-latest-news-here.1031635/

Hi,

Please see below the most recent statement from Fred:

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Hello all and thanks for your feedback, Following up from yesterday, this will sound a bit schizophrenic but I have really appreciated the reactions from this forum. I have spent the last 24 hours reading your comments and feedback and replying to email (fredrik.wester@paradoxplaza.com for all of you who didn't know it); during this time I came to a couple of conclusions:

1. In regards to the price changes you are absolutely right. You deserve more transparency and better communication from Paradox when it comes to changing of our prices and pricing policy. Therefore I have decided to roll back all price changes made; any price changes will have to be for future products well communicated in advance. I just came off the phone with Steam and they say we can't do the roll-back before the Summer Sale is over (otherwise it would mean we have to take all Paradox products off the summer sale) but it will be done right after. For anyone who bought any of the games during this time (including during the summer sale) we will try to refund (if possible in the Steam platform) or reimburse with games of a value exceeding the difference. If none of this is possible (I do not in detail know the limits to the Steam platform) we will internally calculate the difference in revenue before and after the price change, double the value, and donate the money to the UNHCR.

2. Some of the frustration has been expressed due to our DLC policy and how we handle additional content for our games. Since the release of Crusader Kings 2 (Feb 14, 2012) we have adopted a policy where we release paid content and at the same time content for free even if you do not want to pay for the DLC. This means that if you only paid for the original game, you still have a completely different game today with thousands of additions, upgrades and changes. This doesn't mean you should stop giving us feedback on how we conduct our business but if you straight out just hate our DLC policy I respectfully say that we have to agree to disagree.

3. I have promised myself never to give in to mob mentality; it's one of the worst things I know and a terrible way to convince me. In fact, being a pig-headed CEO of a company that has grown from 7 people to 225 during time I have had the privilege to run it, I have probably from time to time been more prone to say "no" than "yes" when people gang up on me/us to make us change our minds - I guess partly by principle not to cave in due to pressure. In this case, my change of stance has been made from communicating with people who have been active in our community for 10+ years, people who spent thousands of hours in our games and coming to the conclusions you find above.

Finally - as much as I love a good conspiracy theory; to be frank, the whole "Tencent bought 5% of Paradox and now they're all greedy" and "They're now a publicly traded company and therefore do things the market wish for" is below the level of intelligence of this community. I still hold 33.3% in Paradox, I am still CEO, board member and avid gamer. All you need to know is that the buck stops here. All problems/feedback can easily be sent my way, I will not always agree but I promise to listen.

Best
Fred
fredrik.wester@paradoxplaza.com

Anyone have any idea what this means? All I know is I bought Rights of Man at 50% off. You don't get to take it back assholes!
 

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Tencent bought 5% of Paradox and now they're all greedy" and "They're now a publicly traded company and therefore do things the market wish for"
Fuck haha, I feel personally targeted for that one. I posted about that on their forum yesterday. I know I'm not alone but damn... Thanks for the insult though!
 

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I mean they are the only company to jack up the prices of 5 to 10 year old games no? Even AAA+ studios tend to lower prices of their old games, not increase them. Civ5 etc. are much cheaper now than what they were on release. If Paradox reduced the price of the main games after they release a lot of DLCs for them, they would probably increase the sales as well. Because a lot of people who want to get into their games are intimidated by total cost. Just trying to milk a core player-base even further instead of acquiring new players and then alienating your core base like this seems not only greedy but also stupid.
 

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His comment for their disgusting nickel and dime DLCs is basically "fuck you".
 
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Tencent bought 5% of Paradox and now they're all greedy" and "They're now a publicly traded company and therefore do things the market wish for"
Fuck haha, I feel personally targeted for that one. I posted about that on their forum yesterday. I know I'm not alone but damn... Thanks for the insult though!

Instead of a refund, ask if they can't give you an achievement. Maybe something like "Beneath Fred's Fists"
 

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I should.

My comment on page 2:

Paradox got greedy. I knew we were going to see stuff like this when Paradox decided to become publicly traded and selling a fairly big chunk of the company to the Chinese.

And then his answer/statement on page 4.
 

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There is no grounds to sue them over yes. While what they did is p. questionable it's perfectly legal, although the excuse they gave is funny. They said something about correcting the prices for local currencies, but only did so in currencies which this would lead to a price increase.
Just saw this. Increasing the base price before a sale is indeed illegal in a lot of European countries, you fuckwit. It certainly is in mine.
Fucking kill yourself.
 

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There is no grounds to sue them over yes. While what they did is p. questionable it's perfectly legal, although the excuse they gave is funny. They said something about correcting the prices for local currencies, but only did so in currencies which this would lead to a price increase.
Just saw this. Increasing the base price before a sale is indeed illegal in a lot of European countries, you fuckwit. It certainly is in mine.
Fucking kill yourself.

They didn't do it "just before" sales, friend. Neither they did do it with all prices, since USD was untouched. What they did was regional pricing adjustment way before sales began and is not illegal in any way in-accordance to law you are referring, because it's not covered by that.
 

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Tencent bought 5% of Paradox and now they're all greedy" and "They're now a publicly traded company and therefore do things the market wish for"
Fuck haha, I feel personally targeted for that one. I posted about that on their forum yesterday. I know I'm not alone but damn... Thanks for the insult though!
Hahahahaha apparently your intelligence is beneath that of the paradox forum.My intelligence went that way long time ago,when i saw trough their greedy bullshit.Apparently we are part of VIP club now.
 

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I don't know about other countries but in my country rising prices and then making a sale is shady at best,rising prices then making a sale and finally lowering prices is illegal.Now when i think about it.....it looks like a conspiracy,maybe they didn't rise prices in EU and USA because of those laws!?Now they could look like a good guys for listening to their fans and lowering their prices.But lets be honest,i doubt that they are that smart to pull it off.I am fairly certain that they will screw off again in a few months,even if the backlash dies out.After all that is the nature of swedish man.
 

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