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ArchAngel

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Can you imaging doing this 200 times
Why would you rest 200 times?
How many times did you rest in Baldur's gate games or in Pillars ?
This is why this resting system needs to be as irritating and as punishing as possible to force people to stop rest spamming.
And that is a good reason why there won't be a second game. Making a game tedious is not a good idea. I am all for complexity and shit,but just making it boring just to drive away "casuals" is stupid.
They are making a D&D game, it has to have some D&D features even if non D&D players don't like them. Those can play their Fallout 4 and Destiny 2 shit.
Oh yeah i agree with you on that. But i don't think that making camping long and tedious is the most D&D element ever. Wasting more of a minute on every resting will be stupid. If they decide to make it faster or player being able to skip it for the best. Of course it could end up that there is need to rest 10 times in the whole game,and this will be ok. The worst possible thing could be if you need to rest multiple times to heal and every resting time takes more than a minute.
Making resting something you cannot do whenever is very D&D like. Also it is very D&D like to play 4-5 h but only have 1h of combat. Can you imagine how much frustration would that be for average video game casualfag?
Also having to do MATH and having hard combat that kills your character even when you "feel" you done everything right.

Casualfags complain about ELEX and that is not even 1/10 hardcore as D&D should be.
 
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fantadomat

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Can you imaging doing this 200 times
Why would you rest 200 times?
How many times did you rest in Baldur's gate games or in Pillars ?
This is why this resting system needs to be as irritating and as punishing as possible to force people to stop rest spamming.
And that is a good reason why there won't be a second game. Making a game tedious is not a good idea. I am all for complexity and shit,but just making it boring just to drive away "casuals" is stupid.
They are making a D&D game, it has to have some D&D features even if non D&D players don't like them. Those can play their Fallout 4 and Destiny 2 shit.
Oh yeah i agree with you on that. But i don't think that making camping long and tedious is the most D&D element ever. Wasting more of a minute on every resting will be stupid. If they decide to make it faster or player being able to skip it for the best. Of course it could end up that there is need to rest 10 times in the whole game,and this will be ok. The worst possible thing could be if you need to rest multiple times to heal and every resting time takes more than a minute.
Making resting something you cannot do whenever is very D&D like. Also it is very D&D like to play 4-5 h but only have 1h of combat. Can you imagine how much frustration would that be for average video game casualfag?
Also having to do MATH and having hard combat that kills your character even when you "feel" you done everything right.

Casualfags complain about ELEX and that is not even 1/10 hardcore as D&D should be.
And this things don't sell mate. If you want to have only one good game every 20 years,that is ok. But to have constant incline you need to make game that are hard,complex and accessible. Not being able to camp what ever is ok, also having 4-5 hours of dicking around is ok, but having to watch bunch of npcs walking around a camp and doing nothing for a minute and half without having the option to skip it is not good design.
Also i spend last night getting drunk with a friend and his favourite rpgs is kingdoms of amalur. He didn't like ELEX because too much talking.:D
 

ArchAngel

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Can you imaging doing this 200 times
Why would you rest 200 times?
How many times did you rest in Baldur's gate games or in Pillars ?
This is why this resting system needs to be as irritating and as punishing as possible to force people to stop rest spamming.
And that is a good reason why there won't be a second game. Making a game tedious is not a good idea. I am all for complexity and shit,but just making it boring just to drive away "casuals" is stupid.
They are making a D&D game, it has to have some D&D features even if non D&D players don't like them. Those can play their Fallout 4 and Destiny 2 shit.
Oh yeah i agree with you on that. But i don't think that making camping long and tedious is the most D&D element ever. Wasting more of a minute on every resting will be stupid. If they decide to make it faster or player being able to skip it for the best. Of course it could end up that there is need to rest 10 times in the whole game,and this will be ok. The worst possible thing could be if you need to rest multiple times to heal and every resting time takes more than a minute.
Making resting something you cannot do whenever is very D&D like. Also it is very D&D like to play 4-5 h but only have 1h of combat. Can you imagine how much frustration would that be for average video game casualfag?
Also having to do MATH and having hard combat that kills your character even when you "feel" you done everything right.

Casualfags complain about ELEX and that is not even 1/10 hardcore as D&D should be.
And this things don't sell mate. If you want to have only one good game every 20 years,that is ok. But to have constant incline you need to make game that are hard,complex and accessible. Not being able to camp what ever is ok, also having 4-5 hours of dicking around is ok, but having to watch bunch of npcs walking around a camp and doing nothing for a minute and half without having the option to skip it is not good design.
Also i spend last night getting drunk with a friend and his favourite rpgs is kingdoms of amalur. He didn't like ELEX because too much talking.:D
Well that friend is not the target audience.
 

PrettyDeadman

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Resting in Expeditions:Viking was so fucking annoying.
Who thought it's a good idea to force player to sit through 2 long loading screen if they wants to rest?
Those loading screens made me quit the game. It felt like you spend more time waiting for game to load, then you spend doing shit.
 

ArchAngel

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Resting in Expeditions:Viking was so fucking annoying.
Who thought it's a good idea to force player to sit through 2 long loading screen if they wants to rest?
Those loading screens made me quit the game. It felt like you spend more time waiting for game to load, then you spend doing shit.
Maybe you need a SSD? :D
 

PrettyDeadman

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Resting in Expeditions:Viking was so fucking annoying.
Who thought it's a good idea to force player to sit through 2 long loading screen if they wants to rest?
Those loading screens made me quit the game. It felt like you spend more time waiting for game to load, then you spend doing shit.
Maybe you need a SSD? :D
Hopefuly Owlcat Games don't think that way and won't design the game so that every action requires numerous loading screens.
 

Infinitron

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How is this relevant to Pathfinder, there's clearly no loading screen here

P.S. If this sort of resting annoys you, you're playing the game wrong
 

Reinhardt

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Agree. Resting and preparations are bad. Everytime you press the button something awesome should happen. Like romance. That's what camps for.:dgaider:
 

ArchAngel

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Agree. Resting and preparations are bad. Everytime you press the button something awesome should happen. Like romance. That's what camps for.:dgaider:
I agree and as we see in that video sex with animals will be a thing.. or was that animal having sex with a party member :shittydog:
 

PrettyDeadman

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How is this relevant to Pathfinder, there's clearly no loading screen here

P.S. If this sort of resting annoys you, you're playing the game wrong
The only way not to get annoyed by those loading screens is to play while really drunk.
Hopefully Pathfinder Kngmaker won't promote alcoholism.
 

fantadomat

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Resting in Expeditions:Viking was so fucking annoying.
Who thought it's a good idea to force player to sit through 2 long loading screen if they wants to rest?
Those loading screens made me quit the game. It felt like you spend more time waiting for game to load, then you spend doing shit.
Maybe you need a SSD? :D
No need for ssd,just decent pc. I still don't use ssd and don't have problem with the resting in Expeditions:Vikings.
 

Abu Antar

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Enjoy the Revolution! Another revolution around the sun that is. Shadorwun: Hong Kong Divinity: Original Sin 2 Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire Pathfinder: Wrath I'm very into cock and ball torture I helped put crap in Monomyth
Agree. Resting and preparations are bad. Everytime you press the button something awesome should happen. Like romance. That's what camps for.:dgaider:
I agree and as we see in that video sex with animals will be a thing.. or was that animal having sex with a party member :shittydog:
That's sexual animal assault. Clearly, the Kingdom needs to be shut down.
 

santino27

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My team has the sexiest and deadliest waifus you can recruit.
Intentionally trying to make a game element tedious and punishing is next-level stupid.

(But I don't think anyone really believes that is what Owlcat is doing.)
 
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Can you imaging doing this 200 times
Why would you rest 200 times?
How many times did you rest in Baldur's gate games or in Pillars ?
This is why this resting system needs to be as irritating and as punishing as possible to force people to stop rest spamming.
And that is a good reason why there won't be a second game. Making a game tedious is not a good idea. I am all for complexity and shit,but just making it boring just to drive away "casuals" is stupid.

don't worry they will probably have ADHD and Millennial mode, they still want you to buy the game.
 

fantadomat

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Can you imaging doing this 200 times
Why would you rest 200 times?
How many times did you rest in Baldur's gate games or in Pillars ?
This is why this resting system needs to be as irritating and as punishing as possible to force people to stop rest spamming.
And that is a good reason why there won't be a second game. Making a game tedious is not a good idea. I am all for complexity and shit,but just making it boring just to drive away "casuals" is stupid.

don't worry they will probably have ADHD and Millennial mode, they still want you to buy the game.
Sorry mate,i am not american. Millennials are TM in america,rest of the world have young people.
 

fantadomat

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