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Personagens da Mitologia e Literatura Portuguesa e Brasileira

tiagocc0

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Levantemos nossas bundas gordas e vamos criar uma compreensiva lista de personagens que seriam legais serem usados como inspiração para a criação de novos jogos.

Podemos começar simples e ir adicionando detalhes e refinando a lista com o tempo.

Primeiro modelo: (Sugestão)

Nome do Personagem:
Apelidos (Se houver):
Personalidade:
Autor:
Livro:
Outras referências:

Assim teremos um ponto de partida onde desenvolvedores e escritores possam buscar inspiração, vir a conhecer personagens novos ou aprimorar o que sabe sobre aqueles que já conhecia.

Eu mesmo não conheço nada de relevante, quase não leio e o pouco que consigo ler é sempre sobre espiritismo então já viu né. Entre o trabalho e cuidar do meu filho não me resta muito tempo mas se ela lista der certo com certeza a usarei para conhecer melhor alguns dos personagens para o meu próximo jogo.

Depois quem sabe podemos criar uma versão em inglês para os nossos amigos do Codex desfrutarem da nossa cultura!

This thread is about making a list of Brazilian and Portuguese characters from the literature or mythology that would be great to be used in games. Please do not post in this thread unless you want to know more about those characters.



EDIT: If you guys prefer you can post in English already, this would help as no translation would be needed later and fellow Codexers can enjoy earlier our Glorious Culture.

Also remember that I rule this subforum so I can delete or edit any post or thread here.


First model: (Sugestions)

Name of Character:
Nicknames (If exists):
Personality:
Author:
Book:
Other references:
 

tiagocc0

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Name of Character: Macunaíma
Nicknames (If exists): The Hero without any character
Personality: As lazy and brazilian as possible. His famous line is "Ai, que preguiça", a play of words that means "I feel lazy" said twice, in Tupi (aique) and in Portuguese (preguiça).
Author: Mário de Andrade
Book: Macunaíma (1928)
Description: By felipepepe
Macunaíma is the "greatest" brazilian hero, the personification of brazilians in the eyes of writer Mário de Andrade.

He goes throught various misaventures in the book, I'll tell some of the most relevant events, that highlight his unique personality. Macunaíma was a native indian, and a troublemaker at his village, so he abandoned by his mother in the middle of the forest. Lost, he finds the Curupira (a magical being that protects the forests) and ask him how to return home. The Curupira lies to him and tell he is very far away and must face a long journey full of perils, to what Macunaíma just say he's to lazy for that and gives up on returning home.

Roaming the jungle, he finds the magical indian Ci, mother of the forest. They have wild sex, and a little indian is born from them, but dies after drinking Ci's milk, poisoned by a snake. Ci decide to abadon life on earth and become a star, but she leaves a muiriquitã with Macunaíma, a magical amulet in the shape of a green frog. Macunaíma then loses the muriquitã, but learns he was found by a man called Venceslau Pietro Pietra, that lives in São Paulo.

Arriving in São Paulo, he learns that Venceslau Pietro Pietra is actually a giant called Piaimã, that eats people. He then cross-dresses as a french woman to try to steal back the muriquitã, but Piaimã gets kinky and tries to tastefully rape Macunaíma, making him flee through the entire country. Macunaíma then stops at Rio de Janeiro, where he casts a macumba (a sort of african black magic) on Piaimã, making him suffer various curses. Piaimã then flees to Europe, and Macunaíma disguses itself as a pianist and tries to get an scholarship from the goverment to go to Europe after the giant. He fails horribly, and just gives and and goes around the country searching for money.

One day he finds a monkey eating some small coconuts. Starving, Macunaíma asks where he found that, to what the monkey lies, saying he's actually eating his own balls. Macunaíma then grabs a rock and smash his own testicles for food, dying in the process. A witch then finds and revives him, replacing his smashed ball with coconuts, ang giving him guaraná (a brazilian seed used in drinks) and pinga (very strong alcoholic drink) to drink.

In another moment he sees an englishman fishing in the Tietê river. Jealous that he doesn't have a fishing pole, he transforms itself in a piranha and cuts the englishman fishing line. But he is then caught in a net by a witch. He tranforms into a duck, and she tries to cook him, but he transforms back into a man, have sex with the witch's daughter and then escapes on a horse to Argentina.

The story goes on and he goes through many other adventures, mocking modern civilization and intelectual brazilians along the way. In the end, he recovers his muriquitã and returns to his village, only to find it completly destroyed by an evil spirit. Tired, he just sits there, eating and sleeping for days, to what the spirits get pissed and curse him, tricking him to lose his muriquitã, and severily mutilating him. Almost dead, he goes to the house of a witch-doctor, that transforms him in the Ursa Major constelation, so he can be "a beatiful, but useless shine".
 

felipepepe

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I'm being arrogant tackling one of the biggest and most important characters in brazilian literature, but here it goes:

Name of Character: Macunaíma
Nicknames (If exists): The Hero without any character
Personality: As lazy and brazilian as possible. His famous line is "Ai, que preguiça", a play of words that means "I feel lazy" said twice, in Tupi (aique) and in Portuguese (preguiça).
Author: Mário de Andrade
Book: Macunaíma (1928)

Macunaíma is the "greatest" brazilian hero, the personification of brazilians in the eyes of writer Mário de Andrade.

He goes throught various misaventures in the book, I'll tell some of the most relevant events, that highlight his unique personality. Macunaíma was a native indian, and a troublemaker at his village, so he abandoned by his mother in the middle of the forest. Lost, he finds the Curupira (a magical being that protects the forests) and ask him how to return home. The Curupira lies to him and tell he is very far away and must face a long journey full of perils, to what Macunaíma just say he's to lazy for that and gives up on returning home.

Roaming the jungle, he finds the magical indian Ci, mother of the forest. They have wild sex, and a little indian is born from them, but dies after drinking Ci's milk, poisoned by a snake. Ci decide to abadon life on earth and become a star, but she leaves a muiriquitã with Macunaíma, a magical amulet in the shape of a green frog. Macunaíma then loses the muriquitã, but learns he was found by a man called Venceslau Pietro Pietra, that lives in São Paulo.

Arriving in São Paulo, he learns that Venceslau Pietro Pietra is actually a giant called Piaimã, that eats people. He then cross-dresses as a french woman to try to steal back the muriquitã, but Piaimã gets kinky and tries to tastefully rape Macunaíma, making him flee through the entire country. Macunaíma then stops at Rio de Janeiro, where he casts a macumba (a sort of african black magic) on Piaimã, making him suffer various curses. Piaimã then flees to Europe, and Macunaíma disguses itself as a pianist and tries to get an scholarship from the goverment to go to Europe after the giant. He fails horribly, and just gives and and goes around the country searching for money.

One day he finds a monkey eating some small coconuts. Starving, Macunaíma asks where he found that, to what the monkey lies, saying he's actually eating his own balls. Macunaíma then grabs a rock and smash his own testicles for food, dying in the process. A witch then finds and revives him, replacing his smashed ball with coconuts, ang giving him guaraná (a brazilian seed used in drinks) and pinga (very strong alcoholic drink) to drink.

In another moment he sees an englishman fishing in the Tietê river. Jealous that he doesn't have a fishing pole, he transforms itself in a piranha and cuts the englishman fishing line. But he is then caught in a net by a witch. He tranforms into a duck, and she tries to cook him, but he transforms back into a man, have sex with the witch's daughter and then escapes on a horse to Argentina.

The story goes on and he goes through many other adventures, mocking modern civilization and intelectual brazilians along the way. In the end, he recovers his muriquitã and returns to his village, only to find it completly destroyed by an evil spirit. Tired, he just sits there, eating and sleeping for days, to what the spirits get pissed and curse him, tricking him to lose his muriquitã, and severily mutilating him. Almost dead, he goes to the house of a witch-doctor, that transforms him in the Ursa Major constelation, so he can be "a beatiful, but useless shine".
 

tiagocc0

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Tirando um pouco essa idéia do Espiritismo, lá fala que não existem demônios ou anjos, são apenas almas de humanos que ou são elevadas ou se afundaram na loucura.
O mesmo pode se aplicar a esses Deuses. São seres iguais aos que pertencem o seu universo, como existem criaturas fantásticas então pode ser uma delas, por exemplo um Deus dos Lusitânicos poderia ser o primeiro vampiro.
A questão então seria o que os torna diferente. Seria idade, conhecimento, moral, tecnologia ou magia? Algo aconteceu com cada um deles para eles se tornarem assim.

Aqui você teria que decidir se todos passaram pelo mesmo processo ou se o processo de transformação de cada um foi diferente.
Uma idéia é a de que ao adquirir um certo conhecimento o ser passa a transcender a outra dimensão ganhando assim esses poderes. O conhecimento em si não trás o poder e sim o ser que deveria então habitar outra dimensão mas que ainda fica nesta causando confusão.

Outra seria a de que o poder existe, porém ele deve sempre habitar um ser, então um Deus poderia chegar ao fim de sua vida (exemplo milhares de anos ou mais) e então ele escolhe alguém e passa seu poder para esta pessoa.
Então novos Deuses sempre estão surgindo embora em um intervalo de tempo muito grande, e Deuses muito antigos poderiam já não mais existir ou estar em eterna luta para prolongar seu tempo de vida mais pouco.

Uma terceira idéia é a de que todos foram criados pelo Deus cristão para trazer harmonia ao universo, sua existência é necessária para o plano Dele porém ninguém sabe o plano ou como a criação destes Deuses pode ajudar em alguma coisa.


Sobre as fontes eu não sei, deve ter algum Codexiano aqui melhor do que eu para te indicar.

Vi uma vez, não lembro onde, dizendo que os Deuses apareciam apenas de vez em quando, somente quando realmente necessário porque seu poder é limitado e esgotável. Embora seja muito grande, ele não se recompõe e toda vez que ele aparece e usa ele perde/gasta então uma fração de seu poder. Isto dava a história uma explicação de porque os Deuses eram muito mais ativos no passado do que agora.
Assim alguns poderiam já estar quase se extinguindo e não teriam muito poder fodástico enquanto outros poderiam ser Deuses novos e assim mais poderosos.

São só idéias que estou jogando ao vento, quem sabe você goste de alguma.
 

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Eu sempre achei interessante o conceito de que a quantdade de fé e devotos de um deus afeta seu poder. Isso fica ainda mais interessante pensando no cenário político, de que a mídia pode ser usada para "impor" um deus e assim aumentar seu poder e influência... acho legal a idéia de um deus morrer se ninguem mais acreditar nele.
 

tiagocc0

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É legal esse conceito, o fogo é que os Deuses misteriosos que quase ninguém conhece seriam todos fracos. E não teria como apresentar novos Deuses desconhecidos.
Talvez acreditar no Deus poderia fazer ele ganhar poder suficiente para matar outros Deuses. :smug:
 
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Brasileños putos!

On a serious note, do you have something akin to the Wailing Woman (a.k.a. La Llorona in spanish)? I think that is a very hispanic character of legends.
 

tiagocc0

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oloko! tenho q ler isso depois então
 

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