Eternity Pillars of Eternity II Beta Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[Iznaliu]

In the first game dialogue skill checks were useless and pointless. I was checking them because i am checkfag and found out that most of them just give you different dialogue line and that it is.

It's not like there's many games where they are actually meaningful in the first place; a lot of the games that actually bother giving you them just let you skip some of a quest or garner a greater reward/a cosmetic plot option from said quest. Those could easily be implemented in the background without any explicit dialogue checks; the reason why designers don't follow this methodology is because it makes it harder to determine whether a game has C&C or not.

 

[santino27]

It remains to be seen if skill checks will be useful in dialogue or not, but even in the limited slice of the beta, they are already more useful than in POE1 when it comes to landscape events.

 

[Quillon]

 

[Lacrymas]

Soooo, what is going on with the beta? These tiny vignettes Josh is drip-feeding us are starting to really scrape the bottom of the barrel.

 

[aweigh]

you mean to tell me you didn't find exploding barrels gripping!?

 

[Quillon]

Basic Chunnel posted:
May have spoken too soon re: the probable frequency of compound dialogue checks

Those are all OR checks.

I thought they were AND checks. Multiple checks make it too easy then :/ But for this check only history is in the skill list so the other 2 maybe gained in-game like reputation[with VTC] rather than point allocated and party assisted skill, could be a design guideline for multiple checks

 

[fantadomat]

Basic Chunnel posted:
May have spoken too soon re: the probable frequency of compound dialogue checks

Those are all OR checks.

I thought they were AND checks. Multiple checks make it too easy then :/ But for this check only history is in the skill list so the other 2 maybe gained in-game like reputation[with VTC] rather than point allocated and party assisted skill, could be a design guideline for multiple checks

I would like to see checks that you need more than one skill to pass it. Like having 5 lore and 3 streetwise to pass some check.

 

[Quillon]

Is this in an hour?

 

[Sentinel]

12AM in the real world so that means in 45 minutes, indeed.

 

[santino27]

Kyle died 3 times during that stream. That was impressive.

 

[Quillon]

 

[2house2fly]

How can you have a skeletal brigand? A brigand is basically just a bandit, and a bandit isn't a type of person, it's a description of someone in terms of something they're currently doing. You definitely stop being a brigand after you die.

 

[Quillon]

How can you have a skeletal brigand? A brigand is basically just a bandit, and a bandit isn't a type of person, it's a description of someone in terms of something they're currently doing. You definitely stop being a brigand after you die.

It probably still wears brigand clothes. If you see a dead man who's wearing police uniform in a zombie movie, he's a zombie police officer

 

[santino27]

You definitely stop being a brigand after you die.

Guess that depends on what the skeleton does in its undeath. In a lot of fiction, particularly with skeletal undead, they are described as still mindlessly following the patterns they had when alive, even though such activities no longer make sense. Mindlessly continuing to indulge in banditry seems fairly reasonable.

 

[Quillon]

 

[Infinitron]

Pointed out on the Obsidian forums - AI Behavior editor: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/209325992?t=29m31s

You can share AI script files like in the IE games.

Hopefully we can get a Fereed transcript for this stream.

 

[aweigh]

oh the AI scripts being editable is great news.

 

[Infinitron]

 

[Elex]

You definitely stop being a brigand after you die.

Guess that depends on what the skeleton does in its undeath. In a lot of fiction, particularly with skeletal undead, they are described as still mindlessly following the patterns they had when alive, even though such activities no longer make sense. Mindlessly continuing to indulge in banditry seems fairly reasonable.

what about skeletal pirates?

 

[Lacrymas]

Who cares about the trivial walk toggle, lol.

 

[Quillon]

They should have shared a clip from Custom AI part of the stream instead, a lot more people have been asking for it/would be interested in it.

 

[Infinitron]

Who cares about the trivial walk toggle, lol.

All I want to know if there is a walk toggle. The rest are details!

 

[DosBuster]

Who cares about the trivial walk toggle, lol.

You weren't here for when they removed the walk toggle from Wasteland 2.

 

[aweigh]

storyfags, combatfags, and now walkingfags.

ambulatoryfags?

 

[Alienman]

I'm a bit of a walkingfag. For some reason these hyperactive adventurers that sprint everywhere stresses me out.