[POLL] Should Pillars of Eternity be listed on the Codex' Steam Curator List?

[Mortmal]

This is not as simple as a yes or no poll, either you keep poe but include VD or roxxor review , same treatment than other games no favoritism. Or you remove it but theres indeed a lot of shit on the curator list who deserves it too. Games recommended no one here wants to play and certainly wont recommend to friends, games people really plays hundred of hours but not included. This is not just a yes or no its about the lack of transparency, who is adding recommendations and reviews and how they are doing it .

 

[Bubbles]

Shouldn't this be a front page sticky?

 

[Irenaeus II]

Shouldn't this be a front page sticky?

You want the number of Yes to increase?

 

[Gozma]

Voted Yes even though everyone that likes RTw/P is a semihuman animal

 

[Lhynn]

Shouldn't this be a front page sticky?

Do you want further proof that democracy just doesnt work?

 

[SausageInYourFace]

Hm, seems like a certain someone felt the need to vote with his alt too..

 

[BlackAdderBG]

Once again democracy fail us.

 

[Andhaira]

This is not as simple as a yes or no poll, either you keep poe but include VD or roxxor review , same treatment than other games no favoritism.

This. Being a cRPG or at least average quality (I cannot judge because I have only played a few hours, but I am not a fan of the underlying system as I already stated) it should be on the Codex Curator page. But if we will have a grovelingly positive (almost apologetic) review then we should also have Darth Roxor's review as well.

 

[Jasede]

Oh God, what have you done! Containment breach! Containment breach!

 

[Sceptic]

For once I agree with Roguey. Considering what else is on the list I don't see a reason why PoE shouldn't.

I have repeatedly argued against this line of reasoning, and I'm going to do it again. If you've already set a precedent for mediocrity, the solution is to refine your standards, not to use this as an excuse to run your standards into the ground. Whether it be a game list, Codex reviews, or anything under the sun. If a rowdy guest takes a shit in your living room, you kick them out and clean up, you don't go oh well there's already shit in my living room, I'm gonna stop using the toilet and take all my dumps here from now on.

If PoE is worthy of being on a list of CRPGs curated by the RPG Codex, then it stays. If not, it doesn't. If there are other games on there that shouldn't be, they get taken off. If there are others that should be added, they get added. It couldn't possibly be simpler.

 

[Lord Andre]

Voted No, but Yes + Roxor's Review would be better.

 

[Jools]

Voted No, but Yes + Roxor's Review would be better.

I wholeheartedly concur with this person's policy on the subject.

 

[prodigydancer]

Voted Yes. Purists who hate PoE out of principle just for being an RTwP game need to shut up already. Despite some minor shortcomings, overall PoE broadcasts greatness and incline and absolutely deserves to be endorsed by the Codex.

 

[Ludo Lense]

Voted Yes. Purists who hate PoE out of principle just for being an RTwP game need to shut up already. Despite some minor shortcomings, overall PoE broadcasts greatness and incline and absolutely deserves to be endorsed by the Codex.

Not to destroy your strawman or anything but plenty of people who loved the BG and IWD for their combat were left highly disappointed by PoE. Sensuki had that whole crusade thing going on.

 

[DarkUnderlord]

Well, from the results of the poll, it looks like we need to make a game called KingComrade because it has a lot of support.

 

[prodigydancer]

Not to destroy your strawman or anything but plenty of people who loved the BG and IWD for their combat were left highly disappointed by PoE.

I think "plenty" and "highly" are exaggerations. I myself agree that PoE combat system can't exactly hold a candle to AD&D and that IE was a better engine than Obsidian's Unity 2.5D. But there's a difference between valid criticism and denouncing a game as trash.

Sensuki had that whole crusade thing going on.

Ah, Sensuki. It's a sad story. As one of those who frequented Obsidian forums during Backer Beta I witnessed his gradual descent into madness. Let me just say that he probably did more in-depth beta-testing than Obsidian/Paradox paid staff which is commendable. I feel obliged to cut him some slack - he did so much for PoE that he deserves a right to have a strong opinion. However, some of the bugs he reported were never fixed and some of his many suggestions were never implemented. Eventually he started to overreact. What he perceived as neglect was most probably just business common sense: what we can't fix right away will have to wait till expansion or next installment.

Like I said, it's a sad story. Rather than continuing his work on IEMod which could potentally become a complete overhaul (since it's so easy to decompile and modify C#), Sensuki succumbed to destructive tendencies and his current stance doesn't benefit anyone.

 

[Lord Carlos Wafflebum]

In fairness, Sensuki's opinions turned out to be pretty spot-on. I truly believe his suggestions for changing combat would have been greatly beneficial. I, too, lament the abandoning of the IEmod.

 

[Black]

I want to change my vote from no to yes so that Codex Curator List is even bigger of a joke.

 

[A horse of course]

I'm not sure what's more humiliating - Dragon Age: Origins or Pillars of Eternity being on the list.

I know people love to defend shit games with "well it might get people interested in X genre and play old games" but more likely scenarios are:

A - They find PoE boring as fuck as decide old crap like IWD or BG2 must be just as bad, or worse.

B - They have shit taste and like PoE, encouraging RTWP games to follow in the same vein.

 

[Lord Carlos Wafflebum]

The curator list is awesome. It's basically a list of games the codex as a whole easily gets butthurt about.

 

[Irenaeus II]

I'm not sure what's more humiliating - Dragon Age: Origins or Pillars of Eternity being on the list.

Dargon Age

 

[Jools]

Voted Yes. Purists who hate PoE out of principle just for being an RTwP game need to shut up already. Despite some minor shortcomings, overall PoE broadcasts greatness and incline and absolutely deserves to be endorsed by the Codex.

I am far from being a purist. I just loathe PoE because it's shit.

LOL @ "minor shortcomings".

Spoiler

And yet, of course, being turn-based would have made it slightly less shit.

 

[Jools]

I'm not sure what's more humiliating - Dragon Age: Origins or Pillars of Eternity being on the list.

Dargon Age

Dark Souls is on it. That's worse than DA:I and ME3 combined.

 

[Irenaeus II]

Dark Souls is on it. That's worse than DA:I and ME3 combined.

I have no love for Dark Souls, but Dragon Age is an atrocity.

 

[A horse of course]

It's bad but I wouldn't go that far. Where can you go with the sequels?

Anyway this just reinforces the point that the entire list is a joke and whether PoE goes up or not won't change that because it's already discredited. Something like Dark Souls you might be able to get away with by arguing that it's a good example of a particular RPG sub-genre or something, other stuff on there is just bad, period.