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If you are not using https then anyone on the same network as you can sniff traffic and recover your login credentials in plaintext very trivially. Your email would probably be safe.

Where i lack knowledge, i say so :)
Could you please elaborate on "same network"? I am LAN connected to my router (i have it on WPA/WPA2 with wi-fi connections blocked); straight to my provider, again unique pass and a veeeery strong one.
 
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They are blocked; entirely. You can't even add them manually. You'd have to allow the whole feature first and i don't.
The reason i asked was not to slight you, but to show you that unless i'm missing something crucial here (again:E-N-T-I-R-E-L-Y possible), we're down to some very simple facts, none of which (again:to me) appear to have anything to do with https:

1) i am poor, young, uncaring, i use a router that half the block does as well
2) i am stupid, i use the same pass everywhere
3) i am stupid, just because some random forum form says "name", i go right in and add my real one

Barring those, you just told me the worst thing that could happen to me is some random fuckhead logging in to Codex (and -only- Codex) under my avatar. Unsettling, but as i am anonymous.. hardly a catastrophe, is it?
So again, help me understand the urgency. Am not being contrary, just curious.
 
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DarkUnderlord

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I don't like the thought of the IT people at work reading what I write here. And even though they have root certificates on our machines at work, they don't seem to be intercepting HTTPS sessions.
Haven't you got your password in a file on your website so that your script can login?
 

lefthandblack

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I don't like the thought of the IT people at work reading what I write here. And even though they have root certificates on our machines at work, they don't seem to be intercepting HTTPS sessions.

That's easy to fix. Stop stealing from your employers by dicking around on the internet when you are supposed to be working and you wont have to worry about it.
 
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They are blocked; entirely. You can't even add them manually. You'd have to allow the whole feature first and i don't.
The reason i asked was not to slight you, but to show you that unless i'm missing something crucial here (again:E-N-T-I-R-E-L-Y possible), we're down to some very simple facts, none of which (again:to me) appear to have anything to do with https:

1) i am poor, young, uncaring, i use a router that half the block does as well
2) i am stupid, i use the same pass everywhere
3) i am stupid, just because some random forum form says "name", i go right in and add my real one

Barring those, you just told me the worst thing that could happen to me is some random fuckhead logging in to Codex (and -only- Codex) under my avatar. Unsettling, but as i am anonymous.. hardly a catastrophe, is it?
So again, help me understand the urgency. Am not being contrary, just curious.


So each of the thousand users creating a separate username/password/email for every website they visit, and blocking scripts (which will make some websites not work right) is the easy and simple way to do things. And enabling https is complicating things? :)

Consider some posters here might lose their jobs over the jokes posted in the forum. Nowadasy all it takes is you to write a racist joke to be in the news. Some of them may even work in Hillary's campaign, then come here to post Trump memes. Even if they have a unique username/password for codex, they could be exposed. Why risk that, when technology to prevent it is there?
 
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So each of the thousand users creating a separate username/password/email for every website they visit, and blocking scripts ... And enabling https is complicating things? :)

Consider some posters here might lose their jobs over the jokes posted in the forum

I consider more things than you possibly can. That is why you make gaemz and i shape policies.

As to your comment, i did not say or even implied that said switch was a 'complication'. Nor did i ever assert it was pointless. Had you the gift of reading comprehension, you might have noticed that my sole purpose was to --clarify-- (when not knowing, you ask) the boundary between paranoia/mememe (jcd) and some 'fundamental' level of security. Said level apparently being more in the hands of the users than in Taluntain's capability/desire to go https.
Stick to your pixels, or learn to read, analyse and think prior to meddling in other aspects.

In regard to jobs getting lost, welcome to 2016. Glad to have you with us. Have you read my comments? I'll be one of the first to lose it, if not actually face jail time. Again though my little Latinoid, i was not posting here so as to discourage said switch.
 
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So each of the thousand users creating a separate username/password/email for every website they visit, and blocking scripts ... And enabling https is complicating things? :)

I consider more things than you possibly can. That is why you make gaemz and i shape policies.

Such hostility! :lol: namecalling and attempting to demean the qualification of people you don't know shit about, or randomly spilling what an omniscent and important guy you are in life, does not sound as good as you think it does.

I am not obligued to give you an univocal answer to your question, even if I quoted it. Obviously (or maybe not so obviously) I was addressing the people that are against implementing encryption here, with your setup as an example of what it'd take to be privacy-safe.

As to your comment, i did not say or even implied that said switch was a 'complication'. Nor did i ever assert it was pointless. Had you the gift of reading comprehension, you might have noticed that my sole purpose was to --clarify-- (when not knowing, you ask) the boundary between paranoia/mememe (jcd) and some 'fundamental' level of security. Said level apparently being more in the hands of the users than in Taluntain's capability/desire to go https.
Stick to your pixels, or learn to read, analyse and think prior to meddling in other aspects.

You described a setup, and asked what's the worst that could happen; and no, as per your original question you are not safe. That's why I mentioned the "losing jobs" line, you retard. Someone with ill intentions to you at your same workplace or house could read your codex posts and fuck up your life, potentially. Maybe a co-worker jealous of your omniscent powers or maybe your mommy's boyfriend downstairs. You later established in another post that you're on wire and not WIFI, and using an exclusive router, in that case you're almost safe, although people at your ISP could, theoretically, read your traffic and link it to your user account. Can't think of a reason why they would do that, though, but you're the judge of that risk.
 

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Who would ever want to hack RPG Codex? It's not like we possess anything valuable or have anything worthwhile to say.


all your staff accounts with the possible exception of admins could be stolen by anyone listening. PMs can be leaked and the hacker could post inflammatory remarks toward as many devs as possible putting Infinitron relation issues to shame.

however I haven't personally verified if our passwords are sent plain text. but an informant said they are sent plain text.

I know PMs and everything else is non-encrypted (last i looked). Btw it's not just what you send over the line that can get you in trouble. It's what you receive. Most people hate others by who they associate with. And most aren't perfect in deciding how to interpret your interaction with someone. In fact some will exploit people's perceptions to go after you for politica/popularity gain. This is even if you're more or less on their side. Just think of what you're receiving unwantedly from shoutbox and just browsing GD.

Let's take the case you work at a game creation company. You browse rpgcodex to keep your standards in line. Now what? you're a degenerate?

i'm pretty positive at this point DU is only being this lazy to make-it-up-to whoever he said vanned him. Or that's the story atleast. I have to believe it too for the site to remain this long unsecured.
 
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Probably jcd trying to drive the point. Or some mods trolling him hard. +1 on https due to ff and chrome soon throwing hissy fits if they see plain old http.
 

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Why redacted?

Whole first post scrubbed... weird.
Always quote the op to prevent this.

Did jcd piss off some maidenraper or what happened?

I'm pretty sure I quoted posts where the original was edited and the quoted post also changed.
Try it with yours.
Here's what you originaly said.

"Always quote the op to prevent this.

Did jcd piss off some maidenraper or what happened?"

Now, edit it, for science.

Zep--
 

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DavidBVal you're playing with words. Be a grown up and don't; already told you, this isn't your sport. I clearly stated my reason for enquiring, before you intervened, not after, i clearly demonstrated how and to what an extent i thought it relevant to the discussion (hence my asking in the first place). If your desire is to deduct agendas or personal preferences i do not have out of it, wrong person. Try it with children, we've got plenty around; might work. Type all day long, my posts remain the same. So does their post date.
p.s. What you perceive as hostility is mere exasperation (to be hostile to you would entail my caring). You're not only another retard, you're worse, incapable of grasping even the simplest of things; like when to give it a rest (given you're wrong) and when not to. If i am against something, i go right our and say it. If all i do is enquire, it stands to reason i'm without an opinion. Moron.

jcd since we're at it, a random question: in my desktop, i've set my IP to a static one; i've enabled manual DNS server selection and added openDNS's address without an alternative. I also have webRTC disabled in my browser (FF, only one i use). Why do i still have DNS leaking?
 

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As Aiff((AimpliesA)ImpliesA) said, HTTPS would work for everyone to the detriment of noone. Just because you think you are safe, doesn't make it a general rule that encryption is useless. You want no ifs? Entire computer security is based on ifs: The bad guys use software and infrastructure in combinations that were never intended, and this has to be fixed.

Without encryption, you are not safe from at least your ISP/government. Without encryption, they will know what you posted and will be able to associate it to you as soon as make a request with the same IP that identifies you. If you are not on a VPN 24/7, you are better off just visiting HTTS sites and avoiding DNS because it is unencrypted. Why do you think the guys who first introduced modern postal systems found the secrecy of the letters' contents to be crucial? Encrypting communication is now just as easy as putting an envelope around your written words.

Now as to the technical implementation, an open internet forum is certainly one of the more difficult cases to put on HTTPS. Videos from YouTube are OK and image hosters such as imgur seem to be encrypted themselves, so there is no problem. Other images could be hidden by default as Heretic pointed out.

And just for your information, HTTPS would still not hide the identity of your account from a determined attacker if you also communicate without encryption because he can compare the posting/fisting times to the times of your requests.
 

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