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Renowned Explorers - XCOM for kids
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Pope Amole II
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Latest update is really good - Pedrinho is a meh captain, but the science rehash is decent and opens up a number of new ways to replay the game. The most important thing is that, whereas previously the game was ultra-geared towards the mono-class squads, now mixes are just as viable. Of course, some branches are still more rewarding to specific combos than others, but still, it got much better.
Dunno why they nerfed Kurwowska, though. Now she's one of the worst characters of the game.
Dunno why they nerfed Kurwowska, though. Now she's one of the worst characters of the game.
Pope Amole II
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Well, previously science was all about gaining combat bonuses. First tree was utility, sure, but others led to increased combat prowess one way or another. And their main flaw was that they were all class-centric. Since those bonuses were really strong, that seriously gimped the varied parties - mono-class was infinitely stronger.
Now, the research is purely economical - it gives pretty much zero combat bonuses, but there's a huge focus on gaining & spending your resources. Also, instead of focusing on classes, in centers on skills, providing some serious advantages to certain skill choices. But, as you can learn almost any skill by the grace of trinkets/helpers/adventure rewards, that's a much more flexible options. Also, the utilities (like the tools and food) have been spread out more evenly - actually, now every research branch has its own kind of a supply bonus. So heavy scientists (Anna, first and foremost) can easily combine up to four. Late game travel costs have been increased to match this, though - Shambala now is choke full of 2 and 3 supply costing moves.
Of course, this also made the 4 and 5 expedition combats harder as you can no longer create a 3 scout team, buy good boots for them all and pwn everything by the grace of 20% Grit to damage conversion. Instead, now you need to work with your economy so said scouts, with their plentiful gold gain, are supposed to buy those legendary attack items without much problems (if you play the game right).
Now, the research is purely economical - it gives pretty much zero combat bonuses, but there's a huge focus on gaining & spending your resources. Also, instead of focusing on classes, in centers on skills, providing some serious advantages to certain skill choices. But, as you can learn almost any skill by the grace of trinkets/helpers/adventure rewards, that's a much more flexible options. Also, the utilities (like the tools and food) have been spread out more evenly - actually, now every research branch has its own kind of a supply bonus. So heavy scientists (Anna, first and foremost) can easily combine up to four. Late game travel costs have been increased to match this, though - Shambala now is choke full of 2 and 3 supply costing moves.
Of course, this also made the 4 and 5 expedition combats harder as you can no longer create a 3 scout team, buy good boots for them all and pwn everything by the grace of 20% Grit to damage conversion. Instead, now you need to work with your economy so said scouts, with their plentiful gold gain, are supposed to buy those legendary attack items without much problems (if you play the game right).
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Well, it's on sale right now, if anyone is interested. 50% off.
http://store.steampowered.com/app/296970/
http://store.steampowered.com/app/296970/
This actually looks interesting... 
Pope Amole II
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This actually looks interesting...
For my taste, it's better than Underrail and Age of Decadence.
Combined.
Yeah.
It's a huge act of dumbfuckery that this thread is in strategic gaming, btw.
baturinsky
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I like friendship teams. You can just keep heal-buffing yourself.
In Victor's game I got twice camp cards that gave +3 greens when spending Insight by Tactic, which has led to the ridiculous result on the middle two images.
But even without that, I usually get a lot of everything from Timbuktu.
In Victor's game I got twice camp cards that gave +3 greens when spending Insight by Tactic, which has led to the ridiculous result on the middle two images.
But even without that, I usually get a lot of everything from Timbuktu.
Pope Amole II
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I kinda cosplayed Molly Millions yesterday:
The new DLC gave a huge buff to Molly.
As a captain, she gives +3 collect per level of Rogue in crew at mission's end.
Then, on your first mission you get a saxon golden horse, receiving another +2 collect per level of Rogue in crew at mission's end.
Then, on the third mission you get an emperor garb, getting additional +4 collect per level of Rogue in crew at mission's end.
Then you have Harry's campfire story to add lots of status to collect & +25% gold from collect from another story.
Obviously, all crew takes nothing but rogue levels. And you go on the low-level missions so you can pass through all the easy skill rolls (you won't pass through the difficult ones with crappy skills, obv) while receiving lots of stacked extra-collect for this. So you just drown in tokens and all the resources.
Basically, it went like:
The new DLC gave a huge buff to Molly.
As a captain, she gives +3 collect per level of Rogue in crew at mission's end.
Then, on your first mission you get a saxon golden horse, receiving another +2 collect per level of Rogue in crew at mission's end.
Then, on the third mission you get an emperor garb, getting additional +4 collect per level of Rogue in crew at mission's end.
Then you have Harry's campfire story to add lots of status to collect & +25% gold from collect from another story.
Obviously, all crew takes nothing but rogue levels. And you go on the low-level missions so you can pass through all the easy skill rolls (you won't pass through the difficult ones with crappy skills, obv) while receiving lots of stacked extra-collect for this. So you just drown in tokens and all the resources.
Basically, it went like:
baturinsky
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What team do you think would be best for Shangri-la/Lost Island?
Pope Amole II
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It's less about the team and more about economical build-up - whether you have all legendaries or not. Maybe all is an overkill, but you really want to have at least 2 legendary weaps for Lost and 3 for Shangri-La. Yeah, Lost Island is easier combat-wise. But, for example, captain Anna + Harry + Victor/Bia will totally work. In one of my recent LPs, I've done Lost Island as fourth and Shangri-La as fifth with them and that went totally OK.
The point is, you don't bother with those 4 and 5 star missions. In my screenshot, my route is Saxon - Carribean - Andes - Mali - Highlands, i.e. 1-2-3-2-3. As long as you're stacking enough token generators, you're fine even with the low mission. In fact, if I went 4-5, my score would've been lower.
Bésame Mucho
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They brand themselves roguelite but I dont see the replayability at all.
They send you through the same 2/3? out of 5 expeditions at first... Why the fuck is that?
First blind ironman run, died in the first boss fight cause Idk that fallen chars drain global Resolve and of course you have a whole 2 of them and 3 chars...
Second ironman run, died in 3rd expedition because a curse drains Resolve continuously without telling you...
Stopped playing ironman.
First run 2590 points. Left out the two 4 star and one 5 star expedition.
So wahts left? Another run to see the other themed expedition and thats it?
Cause the combat is not interesting imo. You get used to those 'mood' shticks and just start playing the way your chars are geared or against enemy weakness.
Tactically its all either bottleneck or fall back and make sure to kill in your turn.
The writing is bad. After 1 playthrough I dont even look at wahts written and only at responses and what +- they give.
Oh and characters, you build your 3 man team out of char collection whose abilities define them and you need to autistically click through all of them and analyze their moods. No thanks.
And the treasures you find... Banal and boring. I havent even checked their stats ever again after they are shown once you find them.
I dont have much interest in building 10000 points groups either. How is that even possible with only 12 food per expedition (which I had)? (ah read through the post, stacking rogue bonus)
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So I tried the other theme parks, the two 4 star expeditions are the same rote repetition. Very banal.
But the final one, the 5 star Tibet shit starts banal as well. But the final fight, wtf? The enemy group, 4 chars, all 180 HP and the leader with 400... like 60 resists on all. Was one supposed to win the intermediate fights against the members of the group on the other expeditions in certain way so that they dont appear in the final standoff? Cause that shit look unbeatblae...
Dreed
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They send you through the same 2/3? out of 5 expeditions at first... Why the fuck is that?
First blind ironman run, died in the first boss fight cause Idk that fallen chars drain global Resolve and of course you have a whole 2 of them and 3 chars...
Second ironman run, died in 3rd expedition because a curse drains Resolve continuously without telling you...
Stopped playing ironman.
First run 2590 points. Left out the two 4 star and one 5 star expedition.
So wahts left? Another run to see the other themed expedition and thats it?
Cause the combat is not interesting imo. You get used to those 'mood' shticks and just start playing the way your chars are geared or against enemy weakness.
Tactically its all either bottleneck or fall back and make sure to kill in your turn.
The writing is bad. After 1 playthrough I dont even look at wahts written and only at responses and what +- they give.
Oh and characters, you build your 3 man team out of char collection whose abilities define them and you need to autistically click through all of them and analyze their moods. No thanks.
And the treasures you find... Banal and boring. I havent even checked their stats ever again after they are shown once you find them.
I dont have much interest in building 10000 points groups either. How is that even possible with only 12 food per expedition (which I had)? (ah read through the post, stacking rogue bonus)
edit
So I tried the other theme parks, the two 4 star expeditions are the same rote repetition. Very banal.
But the final one, the 5 star Tibet shit starts banal as well. But the final fight, wtf? The enemy group, 4 chars, all 180 HP and the leader with 400... like 60 resists on all. Was one supposed to win the intermediate fights against the members of the group on the other expeditions in certain way so that they dont appear in the final standoff? Cause that shit look unbeatblae...
Dreed
Irenaeus
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Monocause
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Just wanted to chime in and say you must be lotsa fun at parties.
anus_pounder
Arcane
So I hear they have another XP comin' up? Any news?
Leechmonger
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Why did Bésame Mucho get banned?
Game is good, just picked it up for $10 including expanded content. FTL+/- in the 1800s with lots of fun characters to mix and match your party. Lots and lots of skill checks; it's sheer RPG-lite joy. Time to pull the trigger if you haven't.
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http://steamcommunity.com/games/296970/announcements/detail/508181993780166218
Abbey Games is working hard on the upcoming expansion. We're at the point that all the new content and gameplay is coming together. We'll just take a little while longer to complete the entire experience. For those who can't wait to hear news there's already a small hint available somewhere. Just start up the game
http://www.renownedexplorers.com/?utm_source=ingame_ex2&utm_medium=ingame_ex2
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I must say that I've found the new expansion to be pretty disappointing (compared to the awesomeness that was More to Explore). The titular emperor's challenge sounds fun at first, but it doesn't really wary from playthrough to playthrough and it soon turns into a boring gimmick. RE, despite their looks, are absolutely hardcore. You mess around on the later expeditions - you pay with your life. Heck, you don't do well enough on the early ones, you're screwed later on. Royally. So, instead of adding a new layer to the game, the challenge is just a club for the most prestigious gentlemen. Everyone who's already been awesome can do well in the challenge as they don't mind letting some extra steam out. Everyone else is either screwed or forced to do a low-level expedition strat (where you do nothing but 2-stars, pretty much).
New characters also aren't that great. Well, they're not bad, but they don't add much new to the table. Hojo is, essentially, the quick thinker version of Molly. And that one skill mechanic is, tbh, cancerous and is already overdone. Chinese dude is just a weaker version of Dolores. His skillset is also quite bad as tactics+engineering makes for an awful combo. Taiwanese tranny is kinda great as the character (his story is real good on the first mission), but his captain ability is horrendous as it adds nothing to the economy (and it's 100% useless in the emperor's mode).
Korean loli's ability is semi-interesting, but you can't really play around producing discovery tokens - unlike with secrets or trasures, there's no steady way of gaining them. And, tbh, she works much better as Anna's aide than as the standalone char.
The indonesian expedition is good, however it also mostly rewards skills that are already top-tier. As if naturalist & athlete needed more loving.
It has a bit of fun gameplay, but it just doesn't revitalize the game as the previous DLC did.
New characters also aren't that great. Well, they're not bad, but they don't add much new to the table. Hojo is, essentially, the quick thinker version of Molly. And that one skill mechanic is, tbh, cancerous and is already overdone. Chinese dude is just a weaker version of Dolores. His skillset is also quite bad as tactics+engineering makes for an awful combo. Taiwanese tranny is kinda great as the character (his story is real good on the first mission), but his captain ability is horrendous as it adds nothing to the economy (and it's 100% useless in the emperor's mode).
Korean loli's ability is semi-interesting, but you can't really play around producing discovery tokens - unlike with secrets or trasures, there's no steady way of gaining them. And, tbh, she works much better as Anna's aide than as the standalone char.
The indonesian expedition is good, however it also mostly rewards skills that are already top-tier. As if naturalist & athlete needed more loving.
It has a bit of fun gameplay, but it just doesn't revitalize the game as the previous DLC did.
Pope Amole II
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Yeah, I've had press keys for the beta - I have a big enough youtube channel for this.
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