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Role-Player is kinda dead!

Vault Dweller

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Volourn said:
RPG Codex is a place to discuss RPGs with no filter or restrictions. Making fun of others who disagree with you is part of the allure of the Codex.
A time-honored tradition, I agree. How does that apply to SM's post?

And, making fun of threads like this one is a PASTTIME of LEGEND for the Codex with all the sappiness of some internet poster quiting the site/the internet/the gaming world. No offense to RP as he's cool; but geez, he's quitting. Big fuckin' deal, VD.
Really? How interesting. I recall when you were having thoughts and doubts similar to what Role-Player described. I cheered you up instead of telling you to get the fuck out. Don't remember any complaints from you.

So Spacemoose made a little funny at RP's expense. Boo hoo hoo. I'm sure RP will survive.
Of course he will. He survived a couple of flame wars with me, but at least there was a reason to tear each other apart. Anyway, it's not about Role-Player.
 

dagorkan

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Vault Dweller said:
Shagnak said:
This whole thing should have been a fucking non-issue.
I bow to your wisdom, o horned one.
Sarcastically denigrating the other mods in public, how very Machiavellian.

Some of us know how to read between the lines and we saw how you dealt with Roleplayer. I would not be surprised if in a few days you announce Calis has an 'accident' and cannot continue his moderator duties. Meanwhile you give more powers to your crony KC and create fake alts to make Pooper look like a sex-freak to discredit him... Where will this end?
 

Jora

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All this "VD is an enemy of freedom of speech" discussion that has been going on here for the last eternity is absurd. There should be no fucking freedom on an internet message board and anyone who "wears the DF badge with honor" should be banned. I know spacemoose is cabable of intelligent post but nowadays all he does is spam the forums because he can't do that anywhere else. Is that the function of this place? I don't understand how being a junkyard for stupid shit makes the RPG discussion aspect of the site any better.

If you can't see the difference between strict Bio/Beth dictatorships and Codex mods banning someone for valid reasons every now and then, stop posting on the Internet and never vote in any election.
 

Jora

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See the last sentence of my previous post. The SA policy is ridiculous and there's no need to move from one extreme to another.
 

spacemoose

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anyhow its not like this is the last refuge of revelry on the internet. there is the aforementioned DAC, the electric retard forums, and others. the expanse of the internet is vast

I agitate here because I like this forum. I agitate because I love
 
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You could see if the YTMND forums still exist and haven't been shut down for the 6th time. I'm sure you could have all sorts of revelry there...or perhaps in #bantown...
 
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Spacemoose said:
ytmnd is huge and impersonal.

Really? It is now? Thats...new. Back in "the day", the forums were pretty small. Mostly because everyone who visited the frontpage thought the forumers were sick fucks who enjoyed openly posting shock porn, gay porn, scat porn, mutilation pictures, gay scat porn, bestiality, and snowflakes.exe links. I guess Max finally shut them down or made them actually about the frontpage...

this bantown you speak of however, it is quite intriguing

Loads of characters....
 

Volourn

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"Really? How interesting. I recall when you were having thoughts and doubts similar to what Role-Player described. I cheered you up instead of telling you to get the fuck out. Don't remember any complaints from you."

What are you talkin' about? It seems you know less about me then you think. R00fles! Don't assume such nonsense.

Anyways, I feel he did nothing wrong. That said, you gots the pwoer so weild it as you want. As Jora pointed out, this is no democracy.
 

Ivy Mike

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As much respect I have for RP and his contribution to the forums back in the days (before I was even registered) part of the Codex way was always to tear the dumbfuck a new one or give the troll enough rope to hang himself (parphrasing whoever it was). It's sad to see that the Codex no longer retain that stratagem. This thread is actually a prime example: Spacemoose makes a dick out of himself, VD comes riding in shooting straight asking the hard question, and then it's VD that get flack for being a bit harsh? That makes perfect sense. I'm all for humorous relief, even when there's such a wonderful thing as manly love and compassion involved, but being a dick is still being a dick.

All in all I fully understand VDs sentiment. The Codex has been in a steady decline over the last two years, you can almost pin-point it to the time Saint left, where the shere mass of shit posts have become unproportionally high compared to the interesting ones.
 

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Ivy Mike said:
As much respect I have for RP and his contribution to the forums back in the days (before I was even registered) part of the Codex way was always to tear the dumbfuck a new one or give the troll enough rope to hang himself (parphrasing whoever it was). It's sad to see that the Codex no longer retain that stratagem. This thread is actually a prime example: Spacemoose makes a <s>dick</s> hero out of himself, VD comes riding in shooting straight asking the hard question, and then it's VD that get flack for being a bit harsh? That makes perfect sense. I'm all for humorous relief, even when there's such a wonderful thing as manly love and compassion involved, and being a hero is being a revolutionary guerrilla.

All in all I fully understand VDs sentiment. The Codex has been in a steady decline over the last two years, you can almost pin-point it to the time <s>Saint left</s> TNP was banned, where the <s>sheer mass of shit posts have become unproportionally high compared to the interesting ones.</s> the newly appointed cheka clamped down and there was only buttfuck from horizon to horizon
 

Ivy Mike

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Spacemoose said:
Ivy Mike said:
As much respect I have for RP and his contribution to the forums back in the days (before I was even registered) part of the Codex way was always to tear the dumbfuck a new one or give the troll enough rope to hang himself (parphrasing whoever it was). It's sad to see that the Codex no longer retain that stratagem. This thread is actually a prime example: Spacemoose makes a <s>dick</s> hero out of himself, VD comes riding in shooting straight asking the hard question, and then it's VD that get flack for being a bit harsh? That makes perfect sense. I'm all for humorous relief, even when there's such a wonderful thing as manly love and compassion involved, and being a hero is being a revolutionary guerrilla.

All in all I fully understand VDs sentiment. The Codex has been in a steady decline over the last two years, you can almost pin-point it to the time <s>Saint left</s> TNP was banned, where the <s>sheer mass of shit posts have become unproportionally high compared to the interesting ones.</s> the newly appointed cheka clamped down and there was only buttfuck from horizon to horizon
:lol:
 

kris

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Vault Dweller said:
It doesn't. It's about losing interest in being a part of such a site. There is a good reason why Saint and Spazmo are gone. Add to that list great posters like Jed, crpgnut, Voss, Otaku, Seven, EEVIAC, triCritical, etc who are gone as well. There are very few people left from the "good ol' days", unfortunately.

They need my job. Had it been down to posting only at home, then I am pretty certain I wouldn't be around either.
 

DarkUnderlord

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Diogo Ribeiro said:
I wasn’t aware a freakish cult of personality had been formed around me. / facepalms.

So, what’s up?

I appreciate the concern but it’s time for me to go. Somewhere else. Not in a blaze of muted glory like Richey Edwards (not a bad idea per se but I’m short on Vauxhall Cavaliers and eating disorders), but as a way to move forward. I really don’t have much to say since I don’t want to turn my personal life and decisions into a circus, nor do I want to expose them and sound like Rex on one of his “rate my Feng Shui” binges.

Am I forsaking videogames forever? Can’t say. Right now the flame is gone. In fact, I don’t have much of an interest in anything at this point except getting on with my life. I may get back to them, get back to writing about them, and even doing it all blood and sweat and sarcasm on the Codex’s front page but that’s not something I can do right now. As Serge (VD) mentioned, I also gave up on an invitation to join another gaming site. I’m burned out, reluctant to even talk about games. Bethesda? They aren’t really much of a reason (a direct one, anyways). I’m sure they’ll put out the best Fallout game they can. Which isn’t the same as putting out a good Fallout game. To be blunt, I don’t really care about that right now. The state of videogaming, as Morbus put it, isn’t so much a state as it is a self-perpetuating circlejerk of developers and journalists necromacing the same gameplay models and attitudes concerning them.

I don’t care that little Billy never played System Shock 2 and feels that Bioshock is making sweet, tender love with his nutsack, or that he feels like a mean bitch everytime he calls someone a n00b over a Halo match. I’ve already played all of this and I can’t, for the life of me, see anything new or exciting. When you see journalists and the industry at large slobbering over a talentless hack like Molyneux, or see the industry coming up with the most unbelievably retarded copyright protections that always harm the consumer and never the pirates... Fallout 3, frankly, should be the least of our concerns right now. If I had one concern about videogames, and the drive to fight for it, that would be to empower developers and make the medium take more creative risks. Ditch the suits deciding content by sales rather than quality. Screw publishers and focus on other means of distribution. Stop it with the hallucinating and frantic race for graphical prowess – we’ve gone way beyond an incredibly comfortable level of that and gone quite over the edge with nonsense fidelity that, ironically, sticks out like a sore thumb when considered on a whole. In a recent clip from Soldier of Fortune 3, a rocket fired at some terrorist exploded the model in detailed chunks of meaty gibs – but left the wall behind him intact. Seriously, does it get any more ridiculous than this?

And this race isn’t just hurting gamers anymore, it’s also starting to get to modding enthusiasts. Earlier in the scene, any content creator could whip up a mod and even with average resources anyone could create a mod everyone would enjoy. Right now, the bar of graphical fidelity and production values has become so high that anyone trying to mod either a ) has to wait until a more accomplished modder releases good content so he can do all kinds of copy’n’paste-fu, b ) inevitably release a derivative work or c ) stop right now and get back to masturbation. It’s so out of the scale that even if you can trade some poor graphics for good gameplay, the experience will likely fail to engage on the same level as the retail game. Creating content from scratch that lives up to the expectations of the original experience just isn’t working as it used to, and it’s getting harder to achieve. And since the bar has been set so high to impress gamers, most of them will reluctantly touch anything that emerges from the mod scene that doesn’t sport the same kind of graphical quality anyway.

Assholes.

As Serge told me, Mask of the Betrayer and The Witcher sound pretty interesting but I’m pretty dead on that front. They sound awesome, play awesome (except the Witcher, which seems to have some problems even with a few redeeming qualities – sex cards? come on) and, really, how much more awesome would you want? But it’s like being an old man at some retirement home, drenched in so many pills I only remember I have a dick when I have to take an enema. I expected more from gaming at this point. I’m certain that given the time and encouragement Obsidian can bring back some of that Black Isle magic we used to love, but that’s my problem – I don’t have any love to spare right now.


And that’s all I have to say about games right now.


So, what happened on a personal level? Everything kind of led to this point. I had already worked enough to save some money, I was already on a downward spiral of disenchantment with myself and recently moved away from where I was born and away from everything I was used to. It all ended up in the here and now. I’ve also put an end to a two year and seven month relationship recently but however badly things with her ended, it’s not affecting me. I think I deserved more support, trust and friendship than I got, and the dedication I put into the relationship turned out to be a waste of my time, talents and (let’s not be as stupid as Homer was when he giggled everytime he heard the word ‘titties’) love, but there are other things in life. And that’s where I’m going – after them. I want to finish my design course, get my driver’s license (starting January), maybe do some bit of travelling, writing, photography and if all goes well, maybe get a literature degree. I used to love videogames and in a way I’m sure I’ll miss playing and writing about them, but that’s not where my heart is at the moment. It’s bad enough most of us die without getting our dreams fulfilled or not even being able to chase them – no point in living that way, too.


And Volourn’s right. I’m just a guy who made a few posts on videogames at best, some random schmoe on the internet at worst. Nothing more, nothing less. I hold many of you in high regard but seriously, my life is out there waiting to be lived and I’m not going to be a spectator to it anymore. I can only hope people will understand my need of doing this.



Cheerios.


~Diogo.
Who the fuck are you? Get the fuck out of our Role-Player thread. Fucker.
 

Koby

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I don't get this no ban policy. I say fuck it.

A place like this, temp ban fits perfectly, think of it like IRC, anytime someone posts or post pattern gets beyond a certain point, give the fucker anywhere between 48 hours to two weeks ban and call it a day, repeat until problem is solved.

Seeing someone getting a temp ban for his first post right after he returned from a previous ban is fucking hilarious.

Hell, if i was an admin here i would dish them out like the host of a really big swinger party dish out condoms.If someone here will start to complain about it, i will tell him to man up and that if he can't take the heat i would then point him to somewhere nice because he doesn't belong here, and after that I will promptly give him another temp ban.
 

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