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Second-Best Thread ever (Part 3) [occasionally NSFW]

Discussion in 'General Gaming' started by Jaesun, Mar 15, 2011.

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Hm, delicious! It's like a codexer shat in his cereals this morning.

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Wow I wish I had thought of Sepirothwifebeaterxx for my username now... dang.

"Now you see that evil will always triumph, because good is dumb." ლ(ಠ益ಠლ)

Fens and Cowboy Moment Brofist this.
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Volrath said: ↑

Haha RPGCodex is such a poo poo-hole. 'Oh no! Not consoles, literally the embodiment of satan! Let me tell you about computer games...' *scratches pubey neckbeard*

I was scratching my beard when I read this.

Admiral jimbob said:

I kind of want to make a comic called Hoopy House of Horror about hoopy being the only sane man in a world gone mad with gangs of roving government-issued feminist negroes out for his blood. I'm not sure it can do justice to the unending shriek of terror that is his psyche, though.
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Grief said: ↑

Hats off

you will pay for that
I suggest adding a pun next time as well

Cowboy Moment said: ↑

You should do a few posts of rule34 to cleanse your mind of the taint of that website.

Now that you mention it, since quality poster hoopy has me on ignore I can't possibly hurt him ( or her, if he so prefers) again by continuing with that particular avenue of exploration.

I shall consider your advice, Rodeo Minute

By the way, I absolutely refuse to belive gamestudies.org is anything but a pomo joke.

OKAY BROS

Coming up next is hella sum reading but trust me this is gonna be interesting
http://gamestudies.org/1102/articles/galbraith

This paper offers an in-depth analysis of bishōjo games for the personal computer, which run the gamut from conversation to pornography, and comprise a huge industry in Japan that blurs the line between direct, mediated and purely machine contact. These games and their so-called otaku players provide an opportunity to think critically about human being with technology. To this end, the paper introduces Martin Heidegger’s philosophy, and interpretations of it by Thomas LaMarre, who argues that the imaginary girl or shōjo is “a new god” capable of grounding a free relation to technology. This theory is applied to a close examination of bishōjo games, with a focus on how gender and identity come into play. The paper concludes with a discussion of LovePlus, a bishōjo game for portable devices, which offers open-ended interactions with a virtual girl. These interactions are also with the machine, contributing to the formation of “techno-intimacy” (Allison 2006) and opening up possibilities of “becoming” with a technological “companion species” (Haraway 2003).

The overarching theme is that otaku are “posthuman,” more comfortable with machines than people, confused about the difference between the real and the virtual. This was clear in the international media frenzy surrounding one Japanese man’s public “marriage” to a videogame character in December 2009.2 However, the basic idea that “humanity” and “technology” are in opposition needs to be problematized. Tom Boellstorff, who conducted ethnography in the online world of Second Life, argues:

“It is in being virtual that we are human: since it is human ‘nature’ to experience life through the prism of culture, human being has always been virtual being. … In virtual worlds we can be virtually human, because in them humans, through techne, open up a gap from the actual and discover new possibilities for human being” (Boellstorff 2008: 5, 238).

ah

as such I believe I may need the collaborative analysis of brothers RK47, Vaarna_Aarne and Clockwork Knight on this piece

note that this article is extremely relevant to the phenomenon of increased character romances in certain western game genres

As always different bits = different quotes

Given that intimate interactions with media and technology are a widespread (and global) phenomenon, otaku might be described as those most actively and intimately engaging with media and technology. By Grassmuck’s estimation, otaku are “media cyborgs” born from the “electronic womb” of Japan (Grassmuck 1990: 6). The imagery here seems to invite an application of Donna Haraway’s writings on “techno-feminism,” specifically the cyborg as a “queer” life form that blurs boundaries (Haraway 2003, discussed below). There is something to this unexpected alignment of women and otaku. Indeed, as often as they are associated with technology, otaku are associated with images of the young girls they produce and consume. Ōtsuka Eiji argues that as Japan became affluent in the 1970s, the young girl, or shōjo, came to symbolize in the media consumptive pleasure suspended from (re)productive functions (Ōtsuka 1989: 18, 20). Those identified as otaku were none other than the boys and men oriented towards “shōjo” consumer culture. This transgression of masculinity and productivity accounts to some extent for the “moral panic” surrounding otaku culture in Japan in the 1990s (Kinsella 1998: 314-316). In challenging binaries - man/machine, man/woman - and subsequent abjection, otaku resonate with feminist cyborgs.

IF YOU LIKE LOLI GIRLS IT TECHNICALLY MAKES YOU FEMINIST ADAM JENSEN HELL YES deuxhero you feelin dis

Gary Cross warns of a “sensual intensity” that comes from living in moments of personal pleasure (Cross 2008). He argues that the “culture of intensity” comes from men rejecting “adult” responsibilities and restraints because the power and meaning associated with them have been eroded by socioeconomic change; at the same time, consumer society encourages us to extend childhood and its pleasures indefinitely (Cross 2008: 240). A prime example of this, Cross writes, is video games:

“What makes video games so absorbing goes beyond the carefully calibrated ‘payoffs’ of emotional ‘hits.’ More broadly, it is the sense of engagement and often control in the illusory world of the video game. … The need to interact with anything but the screen seems to vanish and, as many critics have noted, social (and political) skills atrophy or don’t develop. … As we have seen, these pleasures, disassociated from memory or anticipation of the future, become essentially sensual. The problem isn’t their sensuality as such but the addictive intensification of pleasure” (Cross 2008: 224-225, 247).

they say video games are hedonistic bacchanalia and did the decline of manliness (cont)

Michael Kimmel argues that people in contemporary consumer societies are surrounded by images of eroticized women (Kimmel 2008). He worries that this might lead to a sense of entitlement and misunderstanding of sex: “Pornography rarely enhances our sex lives; it is more likely to impoverish it, reducing emotionally complex erotic encounters to a few-minutes formula of physical acrobatics” (Kimmel 2008: 171). Sex in pornography is “all form and no content, all body and no soul” (Kimmel 2008: 189). For Kimmel, the virtual universality of instant gratification may hinder the development of real social relations (see also Turkle 2011), and the intensification of pleasure - from “little black dots” on the pages of magazines to flashes of light on the TV screen to megapixels on the computer monitor - may contribute to a lack of interest in sex with other humans. Both Cross and Kimmel make strong arguments, but a consideration of bishōjo games brings into question some of the core assumptions about videogame violence and pornographic pleasure.

they say the souless porns makes pple feel entitled to and misunderstand sex, but the mighty hentai games contradict this!

Read on for the TRUTH

Because they only require still character images, scrolling text and a basic program to relate them, erogẽ provide a cheap alternative way to tell stories, which is outside the corporate structure and open to new (and young) creators. Women also are well represented, often in the role of character designers; it is important this, and that the objects of desire here cannot be reductively described as “male fetishes.” There are an estimated 200,000 to 300,000 devoted players in Japan, mostly male, who regularly buy games that cost between 7,000 and 10,000 yen each (Galbraith 2009).9 Because of the focus on interactions with characters (discussed below), these games are well suited for merchandising, including character sculptures, computer accessories, “hugging pillows” and so on. Merchandise serves to extend (and potentially expand) interactions with favorite characters and legitimate connections.

1) Hentai games are gateway storyfag game developing
2) if you buy pillows with Tali on it you can play mass effect romance when you're not playing mass effect

The question of what bishōjo games do for players is a complex one. Taylor argues they are essentially a way to reaffirm masculinity (i.e., for otaku to fight back against association with shōjo). She suggests that the playable character is always in control, not only of himself and his sexuality, but also of women and their sexuality:

“The protagonist seeks to remove each woman’s supposed power and reveal her ‘true form,’ which is one of weakness and the desire to be subordinate to men. … Dating-sim games appear to be presenting an akogare (longing) of men, in which relationships are simple because women have no needs or expectations and may even enjoy the imperfections in their male partners” (Taylor 2007: 201-202).

they say
1) If you like cute little girls you have lost your manhood, but by playing hentai games you regain it
2) Dating sims are wish fulfilment

HOWEVER!

There is a need to go beyond rigid gender binaries when discussing bishōjo games (Azuma, Saitō and Kotani 2003b: 199).

Indeed, just as easily as they might be described as masculine, bishōjo games might be described as feminine. Despite Taylor’s assertion that the playable character is never emotional, or is in control of his emotions, Azuma proposes that much of the appeal of these games is that they allow players to lose control and become emotional (Azuma 2009: 79). There is an entire genre of “nakigẽ,” or “crying games,” devoted to making players cry as they watch the romance and struggles of the female characters unfold.17 Azuma notes a trend in bishōjo games away from sexual content towards “melodrama” (Azuma 2009: 78-79),18 which has been described as a “women’s genre” (see for example Kuhn 2000). Even more tellingly, there exists an entire genre of “nurturing games” (ikusei gẽmu), which collapse together male and female roles.19 The instability of gender appears even at the level of identification.

YES! GLORIOUS NIPPON HENTAI GAMES ARE ACTUALLY MORE EMOTIONALLY ENGAGING AND INCLUSIVE!

As Azuma sees it, “in many galgẽ…the target of empathy is the girl” (Azuma, Saitō and Kotani 2003b: 199). This is an extremely provocative statement that deserves some explanation. If the male character is emotionless, and his penis is censored or replaced with unfeeling objects, it follows that all expressions of pleasure are projected onto the female characters. Akagi Akira argues that this situation - common in pornographic manga, anime and games (see Allison 2000, especially chapters two and three) - encourages men to “get caught up” in the ecstasy of female characters (Akagi 1993: 232).20 There are constant close-ups on the faces of female characters, which is in stark contrast to the male character, whose face may not be depicted at all. This not only includes depictions of sexual pleasure, but also the excessive (i.e., extreme and prolonged) emotional responses of female characters. This bias in expressivity encourages identification with female characters (see also Nagayama 2003 for a discussion of a similar dynamic in erotic manga for men).

Figure 6: In this close up from the game Clannad (2004), notice the enormous eyes of the female character brimming with tears. Even though this game is known for its relatively charismatic male protagonist, he cannot compete with the expressivity and raw intensities of the featured female characters. Image courtesy of Key.

MY BROTHERS
WHEN YOU PLAYING THE HENTAI GAMES YOU ARE IMMERSING INTO THE SUPERIOR EMOTIONALITY OF WOMENS ROLES

Indeed, the object of desire, even when desire is sexual, is not necessarily “woman.” Bishōjo games do not contain depictions of vaginal penetration. Even in erotic images, female characters tend to be more or less clothed. LaMarre points out that the focus of desire in manga, anime and video games, even when pornographic in function or effect, is not the genitals, but rather the “voluminous folds” that conceal them (LaMarre 2009: 231). The fluttering and flowing of clothes, associated with energy and desiring, has been described as characteristic of shōjo, with the small caveat that shōjo are, as Honda Masuko describes them, “something evanescent, something that has no shape or actuality. Should we risk articulating this idea in words, we might label it ‘the illusion of beauty’” (Honda 2010: 32). Not only women long for the transcendence and liminality of shōjo. Akagi makes this clear when he states that what men desire is not real girls per se, but rather a sort of “girl-ness” (shōjo sei), symbolized by “cuteness” (kawairashisa) (Akagi 1993: 230).

Men don't want specific waifus! They want to experience the Elemental Waifu Plane, the pure waifu essence!

The female characters in bishōjo games are not representing three-dimensional women in their visual design or their personalities; the scenarios they find themselves in are equally unrealistic. These characters are based on what Saitō calls a “fictional context” (kyokō no kontekusuto) that is “deliberately separated from everyday life” (Saitō 2007: 227, 245). Not only does the woman not exist, as Lacan stated,21 but she is desired precisely for that reason. Woman is “psychologically fetishized and technologically spectralized,” an object of desire that cannot be possessed fully by anyone (LaMarre 2009: 251). There is an ironic awareness that what is desired is fiction itself.

I believe wat we are talking about here is waifu goddess worship, because of the sheer idealised forms the gamer here cannot identify with her as an equal

For LaMarre, anime, especially series produced for television with lower budgets and “cel counts” (frames per second), is overwhelmingly comprised of time-images. Force is redirected from character animation to the composited layers of character design, which are featured in still shots and close-ups (LaMarre 2009: 298). This leads to an emphasis on “soulful bodies,” or “bodies where spiritual, emotional, or psychological qualities appear inscribed on the surface” (LaMarre 2009: 201).

One might say that this is a “revealing” of humanity, though not in the Heideggerian sense. Rather, it is using technology to open up a gap with the actual and explore the virtual dimensions of the human (Boellstorff 2008: 238). The female characters of bishōjo games are soulful bodies par excellence, practically not moving on screen and virtually bursting with the force of emotions, inner movements.

1) Non-moving close up of waifu faces and characters = focus on humanity and identifying with their inner thoughts
2) THEREFORE 3D CUTSCENE ROMANCE OF BIOWARE IS NEWSHIT DECLINE OF COMPUTER GAME ROMANCE

Anne Allison highlights the rising prevalence of “techno-animism,” which is both “animating contemporary technology and commodities with spirits” and “reconfiguring intimate attachments” (Allison 2006: 13, 21). This goes back at least as far as the phenomenon of virtual pets such as Tamagotchi in the 1990s. Allison explains that performing menial tasks and care “gives ‘life’ to the virtual pet and intimacy to the bonds formed between people and their machines” (Allison 2006: 166). The physical appearance of the pet is less important than the relationship one forms with it. Here Allison applies Sherry Turkle’s idea of “evocative objects,” which evoke something deeply personal in users (Allison 2006: 183). Users are moved to experience such objects as intelligent, and may attribute affective states to them. Allison calls the Tamagotchi, or rather the device which stores the virtual pet, a “nomadic machine,” which functions to “expand personal access to…intimate attachments…that would otherwise be limited to specific places and times” (Allison 2006: 164).

fucking tamagotchi was the first emotionally engaging character, even though it's an electronic game people behave as if it were alive and real, that is what emotionally engaging means

actually bros back in my day there was a real fucking fad among the school kids for this shit, thankfully it didn't happen with me

However, while fulfilling the personal interaction criterion for heart/mind, (hentai games) do not necessarily facilitate public interaction, where heart/mind is performed and attachments are affirmed. LovePlus makes both interactions possible. When the technology is personal and portable, players can take their devices out into society and publically interact with them and with others. Examples include taking one’s Nintendo DS on dates, spraying it with women’s perfume, buying one’s virtual girlfriend gifts, visiting resort towns and insisting on a more expensive reservation for two, even holding a ceremony to marry one’s virtual girlfriend and kissing the bride (i.e., the machine). In statements by LovePlus players such as “I sleep with my DS,” there is an acute awareness of the (techno-)intimacy built up with the physical machine housing the virtual object of desire.

people sprayed women's perfume on their DS, had a marriage ceremony with and slept with it because they were playing a dating sim there?

But that's not all!

There is a social dynamic here, in which the machine is a part. For example, players link up their DS machines so that their girlfriends can “talk” to one another, typically about their boyfriends and relationships. Players have no control over what their girlfriends say, and so listen (perhaps along with spectators) and communicate with each other (sharing “man time” parallel to the machines’ “girl time”). This publication of the private, this sharing one’s machine and linking fantasies, has two results: one, social interactions between humans are mediated by the machine, and two, a space emerges to imagine heart/mind in the performance of the virtual girl/machine.

HOLY SHIT BROS CAN CONNECT THEIR WAIFUS TOGETHER AND THEY CAN GO ON UNSCRIPTED DOUBLE DATES

God damn bioware is the smallest fucking potatos ever, japan is emperor of vidya romance for life, how is mass effect the best sci fi series when you can't even connect your tali and your bro's liara and they can talk about their shepards while you talk about being a spectre with your bro

it is tempting to consider the portable gaming device, in the specific case of LovePlus, in the same way, or in terms of what Haraway calls “companion species” (Haraway 2003). While Haraway’s work on the cyborg may seem a more likely candidate for this theoretical exercise, the cyborg is just one part of the “queer family of companion species” (Haraway 2003: 11) that function to bridge gaps between binary categories, to “bring together the human and non-human, the organic and technological, carbon and silicon, freedom and structure” (Haraway 2003: 4). Haraway writes that the relationship between companion species is characterized by “partial connections” (Haraway 2003: 20-25); it is a mutually constitutive, continuous “becoming.”

yesss, waifus are both human and machine at the same time, with the software of machine but emotional engagement of humans!

To demonstrate the potential of technological devices as companion species, it is useful to consider “interspecies” interactions in LovePlus. A ready example is provided by the “touch event,” which comes at unexpected times, an intermittent demand to which the player must respond regardless of time or place in actual reality. When one’s virtual girlfriend is in the mood for “skinship,” or “physical” intimacy, the player makes use of the Nintendo DS stylus to touch her. Just as the agility exercise requires the human and dog to act as partners, the touch event demands harmony between man and machine. The success of the interaction depends on knowing the speed, pressure and pattern of touching preferred by the virtual girl (which varies by character). The machine registers the touch of the stylus and responds accordingly. When stimulated, the virtual girl says something to the player and the machine projects her audible voice. To avoid unwanted attention, the player usually wears headphones, and is thus literally connected to the machine. Imagination is routed through bodily intimacies; touch, sound and sight all play a part in the joining of the human handler and technological companion. If both the actors perform well, the touch event can end in a kiss (which also requires sensitivity, and so is usually executed with the stylus for precision sake). This is not a man simply manipulating a machine, but a complex interaction requiring empathy.

Once again bioware is a pissant in this arena. What is 'romance' in gaijin's mass effect and dragon age, you press sex please dialog choice and you watch cutscene?

Fuck that shit, in glorious nippon software you do manual romance gameplay anytime, anywhere with no fucking quest compass or auto-resolve! ONCE AGAIN JAPAN IS GENERATIONS AHEAD IN GAME DESIGN

Perhaps it is in “becoming-woman,” as Gilles Deleuze and Felix Guattari phrase it (Deleuze and Guattari 1987: 227), such a part of the bishōjo game experience (Azuma, Saitō and Kotani 2003a,b), that otaku are more open to other possible becomings. It is unclear why women should experience technology as a condition, but it is clear that some men are working through issues of being with technology, and turning to women for salvation. They are tinkering with the machine and with humanity. In the process of intimate, empathetic and communicative interaction with the thinking machine, these men tend to be “feminized.” Otaku are considered abject because they are not performing masculinity in socially recognized ways. They are in fact problematizing, even parodying masculinity by exposing and tinkering with their desiring-machines. With bishōjo games, otaku are attempting to understand the machine, self and world, and exploring relationships between these things.

In conclusion : by playing TRULY emotionally immersive games, male gamers are leveling up their knowledge about technology, the world and maybe themselves as well.
Which explains why andyman is such a renaissance man

Krraloth, Hellraiser, Vaarna_Aarne and 1 other person Brofist this.
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sgc_meltdown said: ↑

IF YOU LIKE LOLI GIRLS IT TECHNICALLY MAKES YOU FEMINIST ADAM JENSEN HELL YES deuxhero you feelin dis

What?
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deuxhero said: ↑

What?

In challenging binaries - man/machine, man/woman - and subsequent abjection, otaku resonate with feminist cyborgs.

MY SENTIMENTS EXACTLY

Actually the term cyborg here refers to the merging of man and technology via the acceptance of virtual waifus and also immersing into the role of and being engaged by kawaii female characters(lolis) and therefore departing from the standard roles of manliness, etc etc

therefore you are sorta like adam jensen and transcending humanity and becoming one with the machine at the same time, isn't that great
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deuxhero said: ↑

sgc_meltdown said: ↑

IF YOU LIKE LOLI GIRLS IT TECHNICALLY MAKES YOU FEMINIST ADAM JENSEN HELL YES deuxhero you feelin dis

What?

He never asked for that.

ForkTong said:

"It's on our list, but not very high up on the list. However, we have the tools and the items to make it happen, so chances are pretty big you will be able to at least make the dough."
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"Now you see that evil will always triumph, because good is dumb." ლ(ಠ益ಠლ)
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sgc_meltdown should be given an official position on the Codex staff as our academic peer reviewer.
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“It is in being virtual that we are human: since it is human ‘nature’ to experience life through the prism of culture, human being has always been virtual being. … In virtual worlds we can be virtually human, because in them humans, through techne, open up a gap from the actual and discover new possibilities for human being” (Boellstorff 2008: 5, 238).

Yo dawg I heard you like humans, so we put some humanity in your humanity so you can be a human while you're being a human

Edit: oh shit someone already made that joke

http://www.flickr.com/photos/opensourceobscure/5465729284/

nomask7 said:

If you've ever worked in a kindergarten, you've probably noticed how one child sometimes begins to chant something, such as "all bears are toys, all bears are toys", then other children will join in with him, so that after a while every child in the room is chanting, "all bears are toys, all bears are toys." You might put in, "No they are not. That one in the picture, for example." They would continue, "all bears are toys, all bears are toys."

That really happens, and quite often too. It's also exactly how adults in academia think and behave most of the time.
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Clockwork Knight said: ↑

techne

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Techne
http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/episteme-techne/

It is the rational method involved in producing an object or accomplishing a goal or objective.

Epistēmē sometimes means knowing how to do something in a craft-like way. The craft-like knowledge is called a ‘technê.' It is most useful when the knowledge is practically applied, rather than theoretically or aesthetically applied. For the ancient Greeks, when techne appears as art, it is most often viewed negatively, whereas when used as a craft it is viewed positively: because a craft is the practical application of an art, rather than art as an end in itself.

Outside of modern science, there is sometimes skepticism about the relevance of theory to practice because it is thought that theory is conducted at so great a remove from reality, the province of practice, that it can lose touch with it. In fact, at the level of practice, concrete experience might be all we need. And within science, theory strives for a value-free view of reality. As a consequence, scientific theory cannot tell us how things should be — the realm of ‘art’ or ‘craft’ . So we must turn elsewhere for answers to the profound, but still practical, questions about how we should live our lives.

so, the method of producing a practical goal/effect via use of artistic knowledge

can rpg games be techne for how to play our roles in life
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First we need to define art, RPGs and The Absolute.

“What makes video games so absorbing goes beyond the carefully calibrated ‘payoffs’ of emotional ‘hits.’ More broadly, it is the sense of engagement and often control in the illusory world of the video game. … The need to interact with anything but the screen seems to vanish and, as many critics have noted, social (and political) skills atrophy or don’t develop. … As we have seen, these pleasures, disassociated from memory or anticipation of the future, become essentially sensual. The problem isn’t their sensuality as such but the addictive intensification of pleasure” (Cross 2008: 224-225, 247).

Slaanesh is pleased

nomask7 said:

If you've ever worked in a kindergarten, you've probably noticed how one child sometimes begins to chant something, such as "all bears are toys, all bears are toys", then other children will join in with him, so that after a while every child in the room is chanting, "all bears are toys, all bears are toys." You might put in, "No they are not. That one in the picture, for example." They would continue, "all bears are toys, all bears are toys."

That really happens, and quite often too. It's also exactly how adults in academia think and behave most of the time.
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*orders a Nintendo DS*

A World Where No One Gets Mad, Even If You Suddenly Ram Your Dick Into The Pussy Of A Girl You Fancy It's Not Adolescent Delusions But That Person is Scary
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RK47 said: ↑

*orders a Nintendo DS*

There is also “LovePlus mode,” which is not in real time and includes talking to the girl, mini-games, a clock and timer (she tells the time) and an alarm (she wakes you).

What better way to take advantage of DS portability but to go on real dates?
http://tinycartridge.com/post/184106747/ayo-technology-digital-girls-real-dates

That however is nostalgic banality compared to the current incline:
http://www.wired.com/beyond_the_beyond/2012/01/augmented-reality-new-love-plus-dokodemo-date/

“One of the new functions in upcoming 3DS love-sim New Love Plus is something called Dokodemo Date, or Date Anywhere.

This augmented-reality (AR) feature takes a photo of your physical surroundings with the 3DS’s back-facing lenses, analyses the data, before inserting your chosen virtual girlfriend right into the shot, where they’ll animate and play around in 3D space….”

RK47 said: ↑

*orders a Nintendo 3DS*

anyway bros this is how you commitment

OH MY GOD IT HAS A WEDDING DRESS
also remember the man is a cultural cyborg, you read the article and now you understand the solemn ramifications here
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meh, cheaper than a real wedding.

A World Where No One Gets Mad, Even If You Suddenly Ram Your Dick Into The Pussy Of A Girl You Fancy It's Not Adolescent Delusions But That Person is Scary

Turjan and sgc_meltdown Brofist this.
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The apocalypse happened... the sex bots survived.

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Volrath said: ↑

They seem like teenagers who think Valve or Starcraft are the height of PC gaming anyway. I doubt most of them have even played more than a few hours of any old PC isometrics except Baldur's Gate

This guy has clearly never bothered to read anything on here. It's quite funny actually

We donated 10k faggot!

Much, much more than that. I pledged after the Codex drive ended for example so what I did pledge doesn't count towards the 10K. Pretty sure there were a lot of people who pledged before the drive too, and from what I recall seeing in that thread their contributions didn't count towards the 10K either. I wouldn't be surprised if the actual amount was closer to 20K.

DraQ said: ↑

I consider my dick awesome, but wouldn't like it being attached to my forehead which would generally mean having it in my face all the fucking time.

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I remember now, kids in my class had tamagotchis and joined the devices so the little creatures would romance. I wanted one at first for the novelty of it, but then the kids started to tell horror stories about the thing whining at 4 in the morning asking to be let out to poop, and if you didn't wake up it would be dead in the morning.

nomask7 said:

If you've ever worked in a kindergarten, you've probably noticed how one child sometimes begins to chant something, such as "all bears are toys, all bears are toys", then other children will join in with him, so that after a while every child in the room is chanting, "all bears are toys, all bears are toys." You might put in, "No they are not. That one in the picture, for example." They would continue, "all bears are toys, all bears are toys."

That really happens, and quite often too. It's also exactly how adults in academia think and behave most of the time.
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SCO said: ↑

saturn's children

mr stross is a bro so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and assume it isn't his choice to have a poser model for his book cover

Clockwork Knight said: ↑

then the kids started to tell horror stories about the thing whining at 4 in the morning asking to be let out to poop, and if you didn't wake up it would be dead in the morning.

what a fine way to teach young children about permadeath
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I hadn't been following Banner Saga's updates until reading about that SA bitching. Thanks to them I was able to pull my support 21 hours before I was locked in.

Probably will use that $10 on something more noble than a console game, like music DLC for Crusader Kings 2.

BLOBERT said:

BRO IF YOU SUCK OFF A GAY GUY ARE YOU HELOPING HIM BECOME STRAIGHT OR JUST ENABLIONG USE YOUR HEAD BRO AND DO THE RIGHT THING

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Infinitron said: ↑

"CrookedB" should set them straight!

Nah. I would if I cared.

It's funny how they single out the most hateful posts and immediately identify them with "the Codex" as a whole, though.

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I noticed that too. There were several pages of well articulated, non flame baity discussion but instead they just hand pick some random hate and say "gahahaha those poopoo rearends gently caress codex drat!".
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Something Awful was named well.

"Now you see that evil will always triumph, because good is dumb." ლ(ಠ益ಠლ)

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Why are they so upset with us?

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Sceptic said: ↑

This guy has clearly never bothered to read anything on here. It's quite funny actually

Yes, he's confusing us with /v/ I think.

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