Vapourware Seven Dragon Saga - Gold Box spiritual successor from SSI veterans

[Spiral Jacobs]

Not sure if anyone has happened across this site yet : http://7dragonsaga.com/ Same logo...must be connected?

 

[Infinitron]

Not sure if anyone has happened across this site yet : http://7dragonsaga.com/ Same logo...must be connected?

http://www.rpgcodex.net/forums/inde...n-saga-a-sci-fi-wuxia-inspired-pnp-rpg.93699/

 

[Null Null]

In TSI's defense as far as the naming goes, they can't use the SSI name, because it's copyrighted. So, what's related to 'strategy', lets you echo 'TSR', another company with old-school appeal, as well as probably the kinds of people who know the difference between strategy and tactics (ie wargamers)? Right.

The real problem, IMHO, is that the one thing everyone can agree on here is that we'd like to see another Gold Box game--maybe a sequel to Treasures, or an uber-high-level sequel to Pools of Darkness, or the first-ever Eberron game. But, Ubisoft has the game rights and TSR has the D&D rights, so it's not going to happen, and anyone who gets too close will be attacked by beholders copyright lawyers. So they have to make a few deviations to make it sue-proof. Precisely what those deviations should be, you're all going to disagree on. One person loves the Indian/Middle Eastern setting but wants to stick to the old races and classes as much as possible. Another person thinks the GB series would be great if we just had weapon specialization. Another person would like to see the GB setting, but with thematic variations on all the classes.

No doubt this dynamic plays out as well with the boys at TSI, and before you know it we're going to have a completely new RPG with a couple of in-jokes about Phlan and the council clerk, and because these guys' heyday was 20 years ago, they're not going to make something that sells well in the current market.

Could be wrong. Sure hope I am.

Side question: why not steal FRUA (which actually has gold box mechanics) and make the game you enjoy for each other?

 

[Infinitron]

Null Null TSR hasn't existed for a loooong time.

 

[Null Null]

Null Null TSR hasn't existed for a loooong time.

Yup (bought by Wizards of the Coast which was bought by Hasbro, for any newbies), but it remains a company with old school appeal. A lot of marketing is about subconscious appeal. People see 'TSI' and they think, 'oh, like TSR, like the old 1st ed D&D I played when I was in junior high'.

The real problem is that we can't take a time machine to 1992 and give the SSI guys a million dollars to make more games like we liked, and we can't also erase our memories of the 20 years of video games that have come out since then and raised our expectations of video game graphics, and we can't also make our aged minds stop asking the questions we never asked when we were 13, like 'how does Vala have a negative AC with that chainmail bikini?' and 'do the monsters in the Slums really not realize we've camped out in their old friends' lair and are resting before we kill the rest of them?'

 

[m_s0]

The calm before the storm.

That really worries me. No one seems to give a shit, there's no press and the timer was basically completely ignored by everyone, seemingly including the people who put it up. I really hope they aren't planning on launching the Kickstarter right after it ends, but then again why would they bother with a timer if it didn't lead to that?

 

[m_s0]

Well, the timer reached 0.

 

[Zed]

my counter has been on 00:00 for over 5 minutes now

this misuse of a counter pisses me off!

 

[Dieithrio]

Aaaaaaaaaaand... nothing happened.

 

[Roguey]

Haha guys it hit zero in New Zealand like 10 hours ago. It goes by your timezone because TSI is low-efforting their website. They're based in California so it's more likely going to go up midnight PDT.

 

[Zed]

Haha guys it hit zero in New Zealand like 10 hours ago. It goes by your timezone because TSI is low-efforting their website. They're based in California so it's more likely going to go up midnight PDT.

I thought they fixed that the last time they had a countdown?

 

[Roguey]

Noooooooooooooooooooooope. Still counting down for me.

 

[mindx2]

The clock shows 5 1/2 hours for me... I certainly hope this is not indicative of their KS launch because if it is they have some issues.

Know that I really really want it to be good but...

 

[AbounI]

Let's wait for the next LESS T_T post

 

[LESS T_T]

Looks like they delayed the expiration time by one day, BUT it still goes by visitor's timezone.

 

[Morality Games]

Hate to say it since these guys deserve a chance on their own merits, but the best strategy going forward would probably to do a Mockbuster launch alongside Obsidian's second Kickstarter.

 

[Jaesun]

They can fuck up the launch of this all they want, and I won't give a shit.

IF they are going to deliver us a turn-based, tactically challenging Gold Box Like game, hell fucking yes.

BUT they need to do one hell of a good, and informative Kickstarter pitch. With fucking tons of specific info.

As sister Ru Paul says: DON'T FUCK IT UP!

 

[LESS T_T]

Yeah, if they need more time to prepare it, they can.

Btw the-site-that-was-not-meant-to-be-public finally turned to private. No more scoop guys. (maybe)

 

[m_s0]

Oh for fuck's sake. What is the point of a countdown if you just keep restarting it over and over again, and if that's the only thing you do with it? Over 13 hours left for me now and both the website and the 'fourm' are gone. So it appears they really missed the fact that people have already been registering and posting there for almost a week. That is not reassuring.

 

[Zed]

is it a universal countdown now? mine is at 12h, 24mins.

 

[m_s0]

Nah, it ended at the same time for both of us judging by this post:

my counter has been on 00:00 for over 5 minutes now

this misuse of a counter pisses me off!

 

[msxyz]

Counter still displays 10 hours for me (CET+1)

It's either vapourware or, ath this stage, they're not investing into proper PR, which actually might be a good thing after all...

 

[felipepepe]

It isn't, as they need a successful kickstarter to fund this. Inspiring thrust and professionalism is a must, that they are failing pretty hard...

Maybe they are scared of "Gamergate"? The media seems to be pretty autistic these days, and it will be hard to get funded without proper coverage.

 

[Roguey]

Cool nothingburger, TSI.

 

[Gozma]

Codex is the early release beta tester for their countdown