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So, anyone playing League of Legends?

Discussion in 'General Gaming' started by Wulfstand, Apr 18, 2010.

  1. Ulminati I'm watching you... Scum. Patron

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    Well nothing in the final SS looks paticularly trollish. Just... suboptimal. (Soraka getting a weird second gold/5 item. Her gold after a 32 min game indicating that she isn't sporting gold/5 runes or masteries so she probably didn't ward much. Teemo in bot lane going AP instead of AD is a bit weird, but Teemos gonna tee. Rammus/renek getting some armor is fine seeing as you guys wer emostly AD. It's only really nocturne that seems to be about as useful as a paperweight).

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    Wait... Laning nocturne. o_O
    Well, it explains the AP teemo but laning noc. WTF?
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    Janna was dead four times by the end of the laning phase by my count - 2 from derp fights around dragons. 8 by the end of the game. I'm not passing blame around neither though - we lost the game to three team-fights, two of which we all had responsibility for and one of which David has taken the blame for (as he should, derp).

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    Player: Qunsk

    His win-rate with Gangplank is quite convincing, which was why I thought it would be a good idea. And indeed, he caught herostratus twice. That he threw the game had nothing to do with the plank, could've done that with any champ.

    Although I get a rep in this thread for having blinders on regarding the meta, this is almost solely because I call out some people on their retardation and instead of arguing points with me they shout "lol only follow what pros say fotm-slave sheep". I believe Gangplank is a very strong choice at our ELO, but more importantly I think what's important at our ELO is how well people play champs. Qunsk's Gangplank is much better than his Lee Sin for example, and in a battle with noobs like us that's going to matter 5000000 times as much as the strength of the champion :)
  3. Juul Learned

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    Everyone knows that a second Philo stone is much better than anything else. THINK OF THE REGEN! ALWAYS LIVE, NEVER DIE.
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    Thats the thing. Noc laned vs me(Grag) mid. He was 0-3 before he got his ult. Rammus picked before him and he got pissed and still went with his pick.
    Reminds me of a game 2 days ago when I picked Grag and top picked Lee and their mid still picked Akali. Its like breaking yourself a leg and trying to run a marathon.

    1435 now
    Cant stop me. Almost lost a lane vs Ahri.Till our Cho came and eat her. But otherwise not many can lane and win vs Grag. Kass and Morg come to mind but theyre always banned.
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    Problem with GP jungle is that he is so slow. And the ganks are mediocre, and he doesn't scale all that well either. If I want a jungler that just stays in the jungle I could go WW, who has better ganks and stronger lategame.
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    :bro:
    I recently got my internet issues worked out. (that complaint I usually made on skype about my neighbour downloading donkey porn turned out to be true. ISP capped his download speed to 100k since we're all on a shared switch. Helped immensely). I immediately followed celebrating my low ping with a 14-win streak in ranked.
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    Last one for today with Azael. Almost felt sorry for their Khartus.
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    Stacking archangels :lol:
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    1) GP ganks much better before 6. Like, much, much better. Early ganks are meta, didn't you know? :P

    2) As I said, in the context of this game it matters more how well people play champs than how good the champs are, unless we're talking severely underpowered champs. Qunsk plays a very, very good plank.

    3) The great thing about GP is that he's pretty good through all phases of the game.

    GP might not be a top tier jungler, but the minor differences in power doesn't matter that much in our level. And he did beat you pretty hard early game even though you were playing Lee Sin (basically his counter) ;)
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    Irelia rushing Guardian Angel was probably the most lulzy thing about that game though. Fun game, but my CS was bad. Then again, I focused more on securing map control, buffs and kills and such.
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    People just don't know why his Roger is so Jolly. :bro:

    Gangplank is in a good place. A player who is proficient with him can do well both in jungle and in lane. Is he top tier? No. But top tier anything usually just means part of its kit is hideously broken at the moment. Unless you're 2k+ GRUNKERs chances are someone who's good at a tier 2-3 champion will consistently outperform someone who's merely average with a tier 1.
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    Ah, I don't pay attention to the order things appear in on the post-game screen. I frequently reorder my items (to get clickables into slot 1/2, placing items that will be sold later or combine into other items in slot 5/6, moving boots for better feng shuei etc). But if she built GA before anything else then it is indeed a lolwat moment.

    (GA ES #1! ALWAYS RESPAWN NEVER DIE! HUEHUEHUEHUEHUE!)
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    GP is pretty fucking strong if you build him offensively enough. He works far better against magic heavy comps in my opinion though. I don't think WW and GP is compareable as they do different things. It's like comparing apples to oranges (catch the reference, eh?)

    Can't really comment on the game in question though, unless someone has a REPLAY?
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    - Considering how few items Irelia has, I'd say the GA is pretty rushed either way. You see, with GA she can jump in, do absolutely nothing and die, THEN RES and do nothing and die again!
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    But she deals true damage, man! TRUE DAMAGE!

    NERF IRELIA!
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    Durr, he got help from the mid in the invade while my top/mid were busy derping and dying. I shoulda seen that of course, but since it was a 1v2 scenario he might as well have jungled eve for all the difference that would have done.
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    If you don't consider him winning the early game we won't agree, I'm afraid, and I'm not just talking that one invade in the start. We commented quite intensely in Skype on how you started dragons at weird times and got caught in weird positions in this jungle. You almost single-handedly gave us a free drag at one point, but then we EXTREME DERPED and you ended up getting it because me and Qunsk made a retarded decision to chase you into your own jungle instead of just letting you go and take drag - this spawned the first team fight in which we got raped. Your team even commented on it in all "lol, first time a fight at dragon ended in our favour". I'm not saying this to anger you or sound arrogant (it was one game, anyone can play bad one early game), but because of this:

    I don't think it's fair to blame either your top or your mid for the early jungle situation in that game, especially not Roxor since he allivated some of it by having pretty good presence all around.
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    I got off to a rocky start since the original red->gank plan failed, and I then donated the blue to roxor instead of taking it myself which set me back early, but 1. you gotta count this as an advantage given to mid lane and 2. GP weren't ahead of me in levels in spite of this, something a shyv or mundo or udyr (maybe a maokai too? dunno enough about him) would have been.

    You are referring to that one time I gambled on you not having warded it, and tried, and then retreated... :/ ? It was a decent attempt and I would have tried again considering I didn't lose much from it, while the potential benefits were there. The only lead you got on dragon was about 20% of his HP, wouldn't have allowed you to take it as we had equal numbers in the vicinity. The other times we pwnt you at dragon so those were obviously good.

    Nah, I should have followed my own advice and counted friends/foes nearby so I could have avoided those deaths. But my point was that the reason why I was killed in my own jungle was not because of GP, the champ, but because of 2v1.
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    I never claimed it was, I claimed it was because of Qunsk's awareness and the fact that he could afford to do it is because he had the health and the map control to do it, which he probably would not have had playing another champ.

    My whole point was that GP is better than another champ because Qunsk is better GP. Saying this:

    Is missing the point.
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    GP is weaker in the new jungle because it favors AoE clears (the reason we're seeing Shyv, Mundo, Lee Sin and Udyr as top junglers most likely).
    This is not really subject to discussion as he's definitely slower in jungle.

    Qunsk is a good jungleplank. Better than his Shyv or whatever. This is not really subject to discussion either as it is pretty clear. I'm not sure what you're arguing over o_O
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    no love for Ska-ska-skar-skarner? :(
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    IMO, a good Gangplank is scary. Late game with atmogs/triforce/FoN he got crazy sustain and damage. Good creep score combined with his mobility and damage with a free QSS he rocks the late game better than most champs. Always saw him as a nasty champ to play against. Not OP,not UP, just fucking nasty in hands of a good player.
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    Screw Skarner, what about Maokai? : x
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    Mao kai es OP. He es in forest but he es tree. Where is, I cannot see. Always pounce and kill all. Except Mordekaiser.
    Azael Brofists this.
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    Nocturne also p. stronk jungler, pubstomps like no other.

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