So, Jaesun, what's a "classic RPG"? (poll)

[SCO]

Retardo

 

[betamin]

So when are you people reverting this?

 

[made]

When do we get polish rpg subforum ?

Best idea ever. Also make it Polish language only and ban all Ameritards from posting there. Massive incline right there.

 

[DarkUnderlord]

So when are you people reverting this?

There are a lot of people in favour of the new layout.

And also a large number who want a KingComrade forum.

I can't ignore their opinions lightly. That would be discrimination.

 

[Alex_Steel]

Not classics (deal with it)

You're assuming that there's some definition of "classic" that isn't reflected by date. I say we can define what a "classic" is entirely by date, if we want to.

Of course there are definitions for 'classic' and of course they have nothing to do with date.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/classic

classic [ˈklæsɪk]
adj
1. of the highest class, esp in art or literature
2. serving as a standard or model of its kind; definitive
3. adhering to an established set of rules or principles in the arts or sciences a classic proof
4. characterized by simplicity, balance, regularity, and purity of form; classical
5. of lasting interest or significance
6. continuously in fashion because of its simple and basic style a classic day dress

 

[villain of the story]

Just 3 more years, bitches. 3 more years until Oblivion is a classic.

R00FLES

Oblivion was made in the 90's?

Who dictated that only games released in 90s can be classics? And there are bucket loads of utter shit also released in 90s. Are they also classics now? I'll enjoy spamming your bullshit classics subforum with utterly shit games and calling them classics then.

You can't fight reason with ridiculous and obsolete classifications. Both^ are. You are retarded for sticking with either. If you are desperate to define a period significant and relevant to cRPGs, just call it the fucking 90s. That's one label everyone can agree on. Just don't be a pretentious piece of shit by trying to decide what is and isn't classic for everybody else.

 

[Stereotypical Villain]

Seems like vots liked Oblivion for some reason. Must've been all of the hentai and yiffing mods.

 

[betamin]

So when are you people reverting this?

There are a lot of people in favour of the new layout.

And also a large number who want a KingComrade forum.

I can't ignore their opinions lightly. That would be discrimination.

76 vs 22, we be majority.

 

[Infinitron]

Well, this is an improvement, although I don't think Fallout belongs in the "Golden Age" category. But whatever.

 

[861129]

For what it's worth, I think the forum splitting will only hurt the Codex. It unnecessarily limits the meeting of ideas, it limits the comparison of RPGs of different eras and the discussion of lines of development in the genre, and the size of the forum population doesn't necessitate it either. Threads about old RPGs aren't being drowned out. A large part of the charm of the Codex is the free discussion and open comparison of RPGs old and new. Same for GD. Keep the public library, merge everything else back into GRPG and GD.

The quality of the discussion will only be harmed by the artificial separatrion - the usual suspects seem to find their way into the subforums just as easily, and, really, isn't open participation the way of the Codex?

 

[Forest Dweller]

I'll enjoy spamming your bullshit classics subforum with utterly shit games and calling them classics then.

I'll look forward to this. Unfortunately I was only getting started gaming during the 90s so I don't have much to contribute in that department. And the only games from the 90s that I'll play now are the ones considered good.

 

[mondblut]

The butthurt of closet jrpgfags is telling and delightful. Good job Jaesun.

Also, "classic" is merely a PC way to say "outdated" and "obsolete"

As for the separation between "classic" and "new shit", I have a far better and delightfully arbitrary means of judgement.

The date should be either this one, for whoever is authorized to see it: http://www.rpgcodex.net/forums/index.php?posts/3

Or this one:

WHOIS information for rpgcodex.com:
Creation Date: 2002-02-23 09:09:32

Anything that went before the glorious Codex went live, is Golden Age. Anything after, is Decline. What better way to separate the sheep from the goats?

 

[Infinitron]

The date should be either this one, for whoever is authorized to see it: http://www.rpgcodex.net/forums/index.php?posts/3

What sorcery is this?

 

[J_C]

I see the discription changed a little. And it is still retarded. So only the Goldbox Games, Ultima, ES and Fallout belongs there? Or those were just examples?

Umm, and guys, what does Wizardry 8 do in the Golden Era part? It doesn't fit the reqiurements written for the subforum.

 

[Infinitron]

I see the discription changed a little. And it is still retarded. So only the Goldbox Games, Ultima, ES and Fallout belongs there? Or those were just examples?

Umm, and guys, what does Wizardry 8 do in the Golden Era part? It doesn't fit the reqiurements written for the subforum.

Just examples.

I think Wizardry 8 gets in because it's a faithful sequel to an old-timey franchise (Ultima 9 would not get in)

 

[Ulminati]

I see the discription changed a little. And it is still retarded. So only the Goldbox Games, Ultima, ES and Fallout belongs there? Or those were just examples?

Umm, and guys, what does Wizardry 8 do in the Golden Era part? It doesn't fit the reqiurements written for the subforum.

Just examples.

I think Wizardry 8 gets in because it's a faithful sequel to an old-timey franchise (Ultima 9 would not get in)

More like wizardry 8 gets in because Jaesun arbitrarily wants to abduct more threads from GRPGD to make it seem like his new pet forum is popular

 

[pipka]

Weaboos sure like to whine a lot.

 

[groke]

Subdividing GRPGD is a dumb move, but at least set the division date at the year that CRPG's died (1994). It is no coincidence that this is also the year SSI and Ultima died and the year the FPS became ascendant. Putting RTwP Bioware games in the same category as Gold Box is insulting.

 

[Ulminati]

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[Infinitron]

 

[J_C]

Subdividing GRPGD is a dumb move, but at least set the division date at the year that CRPG's died (1994). It is no coincidence that this is also the year SSI and Ultima died and the year the FPS became ascendant. Putting RTwP Bioware games in the same category as Gold Box is insulting.

That's why the whole system is bad. And no, 1994 wouldn't be a good date. This way some of the Might and Magic games (the good ones obviously) would be left aside. And if you think they are not classics, than fuck you!

 

[Infinitron]

Subdividing GRPGD is a dumb move, but at least set the division date at the year that CRPG's died (1994). It is no coincidence that this is also the year SSI and Ultima died and the year the FPS became ascendant. Putting RTwP Bioware games in the same category as Gold Box is insulting.

That's why the whole system is bad. And no, 1994 wouldn't be a good date. This way some of the Might and Magic games (the good ones obviously) would be left aside. And if you think they are not classics, than fuck you!

Again, if the late M&M games are sequels that remained loyal to the design of the original games, they would be included.

 

[groke]

That's why the whole system is bad. And no, 1994 wouldn't be a good date. This way some of the Might and Magic games (the good ones obviously) would be left aside. And if you think they are not classics, than fuck you!

3D + RTwP = Classic RPG?

edit: to clarify, I think GRPGD should stay GRPGD and the shit can go to GG, as it has always been.

 

[J_C]

Subdividing GRPGD is a dumb move, but at least set the division date at the year that CRPG's died (1994). It is no coincidence that this is also the year SSI and Ultima died and the year the FPS became ascendant. Putting RTwP Bioware games in the same category as Gold Box is insulting.

That's why the whole system is bad. And no, 1994 wouldn't be a good date. This way some of the Might and Magic games (the good ones obviously) would be left aside. And if you think they are not classics, than fuck you!

Again, if the late M&M games are sequels that remained loyal to the design of the original games, they would be included.

Sorry but that's just stupid. M&M6-7 are great RPGs which are loved by the Codex. They are first person, just like the originals, have TB mode like the originals. Ok, they have real time mode, but IMO they remained loyal to the originals. Wizardry 8 also made some changes to the originals, yet it is there.

/butthurt

 

[Infinitron]

Subdividing GRPGD is a dumb move, but at least set the division date at the year that CRPG's died (1994). It is no coincidence that this is also the year SSI and Ultima died and the year the FPS became ascendant. Putting RTwP Bioware games in the same category as Gold Box is insulting.

That's why the whole system is bad. And no, 1994 wouldn't be a good date. This way some of the Might and Magic games (the good ones obviously) would be left aside. And if you think they are not classics, than fuck you!

Again, if the late M&M games are sequels that remained loyal to the design of the original games, they would be included.

Sorry but that's just stupid. M&M6-7 are great RPGs which are loved by the Codex. They are first person, just like the originals, have TB mode like the originals. Ok, they have real time mode, but IMO they remained loyal to the originals. Wizardry 8 also made some changes to the originals, yet it is there.

/butthurt

Where did I say they weren't loyal? I've never played any M&Ms other than World of Xeen, so I wouldn't know.