Solution to the German problem

[Trash]

We Dutch shall always dispise ze Germans for stealing our bikes and digging holes each time they visit our beaches. I'm not even mentioning that mannschaft stealing our worldcup. Bastards. Like generations of proud dutch resistance fighters have done before, I shall sternly point them into the wrong direction when they ask for ze bahnhof.

 

[roshan]

Anyway none of this matters now because Europeans in general are the most feminine, politically correct, pacifist people in the world.

Yes. Sometimes it can make you puke. Hard. It still seems to make for the best place to live if applied to the general population, including those that would not be on top in a more macho society.

True. A liberalized, feminine society is great if it remains insulated. But if it comes into contact with more masculine, agressive societies, it will be unable to respond appropriately.

 

[Nedrah]

As currently seen by muslims taking over the place and openly starting to request shariah law be introduced, and that without us collectively just telling them to "Shut the fuck up noobs" and "Get out of my thread". Give it some time and we'll have the US invading to introduce democracy - again.

 

[Shannow]

To improve ze quality of this thread again: First the US need an invasion to become a Democracy again.
I propose banning everybody from ze Codex apart from the Russians.
Start with Germans, sheeks, French, dagorkans, then move on to all ze others.

PS: Ohne Holland fahr'n wir zur WM.

PPS: Sharia law will never be introduced into German law. Stop bullshitting yourself. Not wanting to participate in foreign wars is not the same as being unable to fight if you are invaded. Somebody give sheek a Bratwurst.

 

[Frau Bishop]

Like generations of proud dutch resistance fighters have done before, I shall sternly point them into the wrong direction when they ask for ze bahnhof.

Okay, as long as you don't bullshit us when ze way to ze next rip-off Coffeeshop is in question we can be friends.

 

[roshan]

True. One incident I read about, where about 30 Swedish people looked on and did nothing while immigrants publicly raped a Swedish girl in a swimming pool perfectly shows how Europeans are no longer able to confront those that challenge them. Not to mention France abandoning its ghettoes to Muslim rioters, and British Muslims establishing parallel sharia courts in their enclaves. The amazing thing is how most people are completely oblivious toward what is going on. In fact, leftist thinking people will completely deny that such incidents even take place at all, while lamenting about how some immigrants car was stopped and searched by a police officer.

They always claim that its just a small bunch of fanatics responsible for acts of terrorism and fanaticism. What seems to escape their small brains is that no one else in the world has any such fanatical fringe. There simply arent any Koreans, Vietnamese, Japanese, Chinese, Hindus, Thais, Filipinos, eastern Europeans or anyone else who go to other countries and try to blow things up, change the local laws, demand special priveleges, establish ghettos and no go zones, systematically rape natives and so on. In fact immigrants from these other countries tend to do very well both in education and making money. The fact is that Muslims that turn to terrorism, remain backward economically and educationally or behave subversibly are products of Islam and Muslim society.

 

[serch]

I happen to find funny how people think European society is feminine, or gay, or whatever. No, we are beasts, extremely aggressive and violent nations with a varnish of civilization. Terribly afraid of what can happen if we left the monster get out. Do you really think Moors are a danger to us? Cute.

 

[Claw]

I think banning all the German posters would be a step forward to revert this forum to a more acceptable state.

Although I'm German (Bavarian actually) I am inclined to agree. I don't even visit German forums anymore.

By the way, this thread wasn't my idea - an Austrian (always them isn't it?) put me up to it.

Was his name Adolf, by any chance?

Sounds like Nazi talk to me. Better ban him too just in case.

Seconded.

Get this straight ok: Bavarian culture has nothing to do with the rest (i.e. most of) Germany.

I agree wholeheartedly. We don't want to be associated with those jerks.

 

[roshan]

I happen to find funny how people think European society is feminine, or gay, or whatever. No, we are beasts, extremely aggressive and violent nations with a varnish of civilization. Terribly afraid of what can happen if we left the monster get out. Do you really think Moors are a danger to us? Cute.

You may be aggressive, but a vast majority of the people in your continent arent. They have been completely indoctrinated with leftism. The days when Europeans revelled in their supposed racial/cultural/religious superiority are long gone. I think that by the time you get your act together, it will be too late.

 

[Sir_Brennus]

I think banning all the German posters would be a step forward to revert this forum to a more acceptable state.

Although I'm German (Bavarian actually) I am inclined to agree. I don't even visit German forums anymore.

I totally agree, as long as Claw gets banned, too. I'll pm Brother None to also get rid of you on the NMA.

 

[Trash]

Funnily enough I recently read a cool article about this very subject. From some dutch professor that reacted to the view that we dutch seem to be peaceloving sorts. He brought forward that as long as our national interest and security isn't directly threatened we are. However when it is, we tend to react just as savage as other countries.

Nice examples were the genocide in Indonesia when at the start of the last century some local tribes rebelled. The island it happened on was scorched of all life. After ww2 Indonesia tried to gain independence. Untill 1948 we were putting them down, but had to stop because of huge international pressure. In the meantime we managed to kill 150.000 people there. When we had a communist uprising on one of our battleships in the 30's we bombed it. Closer to home are a number of hostage situations that happened in the 70's. In one a tank was used to enter a schoolclass where children were kept hostage and in another one a train with hostages was machinegunned with special armor piercing rounds.

So in the end, I kinda agree with this.

I happen to find funny how people think European society is feminine, or gay, or whatever. No, we are beasts, extremely aggressive and violent nations with a varnish of civilization. Terribly afraid of what can happen if we left the monster get out. Do you really think Moors are a danger to us? Cute.

Though I really think we're underestimating the danger these sandniggers are.

 

[TalesfromtheCrypt]

we are a pretty pacifist bunch now when it comes to actual warfare.

Its mostly hypocrisy.
The whole german pacifist movement thingy is something I'd like to call National Pacifism, the continuation of National Socialism.

The ideology is mostly used to rage against the evil Imperialism of the evil "cultureless", capitalistic US "Besatzers" (in contrast to the cultural germans) and its "völkerrechtwidrige" wars (the word turns into a completly meaningless cliche when used by germans). Dont forget the evil <s>Jews</s> Zionists who have learned nothing from the Holocaust (lol).
Capitalism and free markets are seen as a thread to the local culture, which is percieved in romantacly idealised, "völkisch" way. European nationalism ist the new politicaly correct substitue for german nationalism.

Its not that those people who protest against the war in Afghanistan really care what happends to the Afghani people. No, pacifism is germanie's new way to show the world how superior they are to everyone else, and how much they have "learned" from the holocaust. Basicly, the holocaust has allowed germany to reach a new level of morale pureness, because, you know, they have learned their lessons from it. Its pretty disgusting.

Its no surprise that the anti-globalization and pacifism slogans of neonazies and extreme leftists are indistinguishible from each other.
What a delicious irony that the leftist RAF terrorists claimed they were fighting a fashist reincarnation of the old nazi state , yet they were die hard antisemites and representatives of this national-leftist ideology, blaming the US imperialists and jews for imposing the moral guilt of the holocaust on the mostly innocent and peaceful german people.

 

[Nedrah]

Talesfromthecrypt, I don't like your attitude.
You are damn quick to judge and wrap up really shallow, prejudiced views in equally shallow rhetorics. Yes, we are sometimes pretty hypocritic, but carefull about throwing that particular stone, as I think certain other nations may be sitting in the even more fragile glashouse at that. Let's just leave it at that, or rather at the fact that we disagree.

To anyone else:

You don't have to be right wing to find the way a percentage of muslim people behave in our countrys disturbing. I consider myself fairly leftist in assorted matters, conservative in others - studying sociology with a focus on economy and social-structural analysis tends to stop you from overly simplified stances towards social matters.

Edit: And no, I don't believe that Sharia law will be introduced into german jurisdiction anytime soon. It'n not about that, it's about those people having the guts to even demand it and acting radical when we don't.

 

[Deleted member 7219]

Let me assure you Germans that the only people here in the UK with a distaste for your sort are the older generation who fought in the war, or the skinheads who don't really represent modern British society in any way shape or form.

It is the FRENCH that we do not like. Although that may change now they have a president who isn't a total Anglophobe.

EDIT: and the Argentinians too, but they aren't European, fortunately.

 

[Nedrah]

Good to hear Matt, as my uncle works as a Deutsche Bank Manager in London and I'd be happy to be able to visit him sometime without having people beat me up over my accent.

 

[TalesfromtheCrypt]

Yes, we are sometimes pretty hypocritic

Its not the occasional hypocrisy every country can be blamed of. The problem is much deeper. Much of the modern german identity a great number of germans are associating with is deeply based on hypocrisy in its fundementals.

Yes, we are sometimes pretty hypocritic, but carefull about throwing that particular stone, as I think certain other nations may be sitting in the even more fragile glashouse at that.

That wasn't shallow at all. "Yes, you are a bit right but you arent. Other countries arent perfect either and propably worse than us."

 

[Deleted member 7219]

Good to hear Matt, as my uncle works as a Deutsche Bank Manager in London and I'd be happy to be able to visit him sometime without having people beat me up over my accent.

Whereabouts in Germany are you from? Just out of interest.

 

[Nedrah]

I don't know how that would have been so shallow. I was just stating the obvious - every society has their share of hipocricy, some more (or deeper rooted) than others. Don't make it out like I was the one doubting the obvious here by singling a certain nation out. Yes, of course germans are still in a way thraumatized by the events between 1918 to 45, and we are being made aware of the importance of those events from early age on. But the pacifist movement and political and social discourse are not the soap-opera you make it out to be.

Also

No, you are wrong. You are shallow, too, and propably worse than me.

Fixed that for you.

And, you know, admitting that your opponent may not be totally wrong but then qualifying where you disagree with him is actually considered good style in some circles - OH THE HYPOCRICY!

 

[Nedrah]

Whereabouts in Germany are you from? Just out of interest.

I'm currently living in North Rhine-Westphalia, more specifically in the "Ruhrgebiet", a former industrial center and a place where several big citys (like Dortmund, Essen, Duisburg and others, big by german standards obviously) form one big clusterfuck with it's own very specific social and cultural problems.

Ed: Sorry for dp.

 

[ricolikesrice]

we are a pretty pacifist bunch now when it comes to actual warfare.

Its mostly hypocrisy.
The whole german pacifist movement thingy is something I'd like to call National Pacifism, the continuation of National Socialism.

The ideology is mostly used to rage against the evil Imperialism of the evil "cultureless", capitalistic US "Besatzers" (in contrast to the cultural germans) and its "völkerrechtwidrige" wars (the word turns into a completly meaningless cliche when used by germans). Dont forget the evil <s>Jews</s> Zionists who have learned nothing from the Holocaust (lol).
Capitalism and free markets are seen as a thread to the local culture, which is percieved in romantacly idealised, "völkisch" way. European nationalism ist the new politicaly correct substitue for german nationalism.

Its not that those people who protest against the war in Afghanistan really care what happends to the Afghani people. No, pacifism is germanie's new way to show the world how superior they are to everyone else, and how much they have "learned" from the holocaust. Basicly, the holocaust has allowed germany to reach a new level of morale pureness, because, you know, they have learned their lessons from it. Its pretty disgusting.

Its no surprise that the anti-globalization and pacifism slogans of neonazies and extreme leftists are indistinguishible from each other.
What a delicious irony that the leftist RAF terrorists claimed they were fighting a fashist reincarnation of the old nazi state , yet they were die hard antisemites and representatives of this national-leftist ideology, blaming the US imperialists and jews for imposing the moral guilt of the holocaust on the mostly innocent and peaceful german people.

...well put !

i hate the neonazis alot but currently the leftist fuckfaces and hippies in general are more annoying. least of the common neonazi skinhead you know he s just an uneducated dumbfuck but those people are supposed to be intelligent and still so full of shit.

i find it most hilarious how both of these groups show no balls at all.

the whole antifa leftist fuckers only bother to show up to throwing stones at policemen or neonazis when they re in a at least 3:1 advantage.....

or the neonazis who need 50 people to beat up a turkish wife (who s probably used to it from her husband anyhow^^) instead of growing some balls and taking those 50 men into neuköln and getting a fight with the local arab youth gangs.

my grandfather didnt believe in the whole hitler shit but nonetheless he defended his home against what, 5 or 10:1 odds in the normandy (and he single handedly killed 100s of americans and captured another few 1000s, if it wasnt for his flue on the 3-6th july 1944 the invasion might have turned out differently...) ? i m sure he doesnt want some hairless dumbfucks too cowardish to fight real goals instead of beating up women worshiping his generation neither does he deserve to be criticised by longhaired or irokese dumbfucks who rather form large anti nazi movements in cities were just 1-2 nazis exists in order to suck balls to the local immigrants. luckily the later dont care and i get a great laugh from every punk or leftist beeing beat up from those very guys they seek to "protect" :shock:

still, not all is bad here, if you have enough money to live in a good area germany is a great place and while its annoying seeing our pussified mass populace and media i doubt its any different in most other countries.

racist dumbfucks exist everywhere, so do leftist dumbfucks, and a bunch of immigrants causing trouble is nothing new either. you have your niggers, we have our sandniggers and mallorca has fat german tourists spoiling the fun for everyone ... gotta deal with it, as long as you make some decent money, it shouldnt bother you anyhow.

 

[TalesfromtheCrypt]

And, you know, admitting that your opponent may not be totally wrong but then qualifying where you disagree with him is actually considered good style in some circles - OH THE HYPOCRICY!

How did you qualify where exactly you disagree with me? All you said was "no ur wrong u cant say that becase u cant single out one nation".
Will you tell me that every nation is basicly the same, and there cant't be one specific (in my opinion pathologic and hypocritical) mindset among representatives of a specific nation, resulting of its unique culture and history?

Also

, of course germans are still in a way thraumatized by the events between 1918 to 45, and we are being made aware of the importance of those events from early age on

How is that even refering to what I wrote? Appearently what I wrote wasn't put shallow and simple enough for you, because appearently you failed to understand what I meant.

I dont critisze that germans remember their crimes in WW 2, im critiszing that its often done in a hypocritical and apologetic way.

 

[Nedrah]

No, I admitted that WW1 and 2 still have a massive influence on our culture. I'm debatting wether writing those effects off as hypocracy or pathologic might not be too simplifying for the sake of denouncing a whole people as, essentially, sickos who lie to themselves in order to feel special/better. Know what? The people I know don't actually feel superior to other countries, in fact we tend to be pretty insecure about our national identity and are, as far as I know, pretty much infamous for being pretty pessimistic about the state of affairs / the way we are handling things. And yes, believe it or not, some of us simply DO care wether our tax money is being used to take pictures that may or may not later be used to bomb people we don't want killed.

Is there something highly pathologic about the way modern life happens in modern western societys? Yes, but that has a lot more to do with economical and resulting socio-cultural factors than with cultural differences themselves.

Edit to answer edit:

No, we are not appologetic about it, because WE DIDN'T FUCKING DO ANYTHING WRONG. Our ancestors did. We don't want to be pestered with that crap all the time any more than GB wants to be with colonization efforts gone wrong or the US with gathering some "Lebensraum" by genociding natives. It's ok, you didn't do it, it was grandpa's grandpa, now let's get the fuck over it.

Trying not to fall into the same traps that our ancestors did should not be used against us, and has a lot to do with why we may sometimes appear overly critical of the US bringing peace and democracy to the savage lands and like to tear ourselves apart over stuff that other nations don't spend that much thought on.

Look, I'm not saying germany is a perfect, or even particularily great country, but I feel that to truly understand it's problems one should first of all put some effort into actually losing their own prejudiced views and trying to understand what's going on from a perespective of the people in question.

 

[thesheeep]

I dont critisze that germans remember their crimes in WW 2, im critiszing that its often done in a hypocritical and apologetic way.

Sadly, this is true.

Sometimes, it makes me sick, too. I mean... wtf? I am in no way responsible for what people in my country did 60 years ago.
I think some politicians and other people just feel like they are expected to behave like you mentioned. But IMHO it got better in recent years.


Oh, and.. yeah.. we don't want to be associated with Bavarians
It's no coincidence that it spells so similar to Barbarians.

Or why do you think there is a "Hessia" under my nick

 

[Nedrah]

I dont critisze that germans remember their crimes in WW 2, im critiszing that its often done in a hypocritical and apologetic way.

Sadly, this is true.

Sometimes, it makes me sick, too. I mean... wtf? I am in no way responsible for what people in my country did 60 years ago.
I think some politicians and other people just feel like they are expected to behave like you mentioned.

Oh, and.. yeah.. we don't want to be associated with Bavarians
It's no coincidence that it spells so similar to Barbarians.

Erm...
So, why do I feel I can associate perfectly fine with what you're stating there but then again think Talesfromthecrypt got it wrong?

Apparently I misred some things, then?

 

[dagorkan]

I think banning all the German posters would be a step forward to revert this forum to a more acceptable state.

Although I'm German (Bavarian actually) I am inclined to agree. I don't even visit German forums anymore.

Yeah, I had my doubts about you, not acting like a proper German that's why I deliberately left you out of the list.

Let me amend my proposal. It only applies to non-Bavarian Germans, and other European assholes (Slovenians, Estonians)... And to teenage American libertarians from Texas.