potatojohn
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Splinter Cell Blacklist: the king of stealth is back ?
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dunno lah
Arcane
FromWisdomToHate
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I finished blacklist on perfectionist, ghost style without being spotted and mostly without knocking out enemies (except when it was necessary) which was quite challenging....and fun. Couple of parts in the game were lame where i was forced to knock out enemies (train part was the worst part of the game)
Level design was good for the most part which offered many alternate paths to avoid combat and last level was the best in the game, better than anything in chaos theory :D
Level design was good for the most part which offered many alternate paths to avoid combat and last level was the best in the game, better than anything in chaos theory :D
zwanzig_zwoelf
Guest
Lol 20 Gb high quality assets best graphix even better than on console.Forgot the screenshot
Silva
Arcane
I must be a fag then, because I gave up on Perfectionist after the 30th reload in a mission full of dogs. By the way, is there some usefulness for the Sonar goggles on Perfectionist ? If they dont see through walls, why buy it ?
Oh, and last mission in Chaos Theory is awsome too. I always got captured though. Is there a way for not being captured ?
Yeah, I think you just don't get shot by the electric charge stuff when you descend the escalator. It's hard to do but possible.
Silva
Arcane
Going to the 5th mission in the campaign, and having done a couple more side-missions, Im beginning to think that Blacklist will surpass Chaos Theory. No shit.
The side-missions - at least the non-combat ones - are amazing stuff. I mean, Dishonored-like open-ended stuff - you have a big map and some main objectives (plus some secondary ones, and some secret ones) and youre free to aproach all this shit the way you want. Its the more open shit Ive seen in the series so far. And if you go co-op it gets even more amazing because you can coordinate how to do all that shit (ghosting together and supporting each other for the same objective ? splitting up and doing different objetctives at the same time and meeting later for the third one ? having one get behind drone-scouting while the other go spearhead at the front ? Going full Rainbow Six-like full assault ? You name it ).
Try do this with the REAL guards and you receive a gunbutt to the face and a burst to the chest.
Or the shadow ones with red glowing eyes that can see in the dark and behind walls.
The side-missions - at least the non-combat ones - are amazing stuff. I mean, Dishonored-like open-ended stuff - you have a big map and some main objectives (plus some secondary ones, and some secret ones) and youre free to aproach all this shit the way you want. Its the more open shit Ive seen in the series so far. And if you go co-op it gets even more amazing because you can coordinate how to do all that shit (ghosting together and supporting each other for the same objective ? splitting up and doing different objetctives at the same time and meeting later for the third one ? having one get behind drone-scouting while the other go spearhead at the front ? Going full Rainbow Six-like full assault ? You name it ).
This only works with early game scum.potatojohn said:
Try do this with the REAL guards and you receive a gunbutt to the face and a burst to the chest.
Or the shadow ones with red glowing eyes that can see in the dark and behind walls.
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MetalCraze
Arcane
Why would you want to go non-lethal? What's the point?
Of course stealth is hard since the game is made with you killing everybody in your path in mind. That's how it was in Conviction too. Just like action sequences.
How is this not Conviction 2 when shooting through is effortless?
Silva
Arcane
Going to 6th mission now and, wow, the more I play it, the more I think this is going to dethrone Chaos Theory. I mean, at this point its already doing it for me because I dont remember having all this fun with Chaos Theory. The 5th mission, "Abandoned Mill", is one of the best ever in the series (if not the best) hands down.
I dont deny killing everyone is easier than ghosting, specially in the early game. But by the midgame (where I think I am at this moment) things start getting complicated, since a lot of enemies are better trained, equiped and - specially - armored. Those dudes in heavy armor are badasses since you cant knockout them by the front nor kill em with one shots (you have to take out their helmets first). So, are you sure you really tried this shit on Perfectionist and past the early game ?
Effortless ? Then we must be playing different games.MetalCraze said:
I dont deny killing everyone is easier than ghosting, specially in the early game. But by the midgame (where I think I am at this moment) things start getting complicated, since a lot of enemies are better trained, equiped and - specially - armored. Those dudes in heavy armor are badasses since you cant knockout them by the front nor kill em with one shots (you have to take out their helmets first). So, are you sure you really tried this shit on Perfectionist and past the early game ?
Echo Mirage
Arcane
If it can be played like Chaos Theory then I will have to give it a try.
Silva
Arcane
Oh great, 6th mission is the lamest shit Ive ever played in this franchise (its so bad Im amazed it doesnt have quicktime events). And the story takes a turn for the bad, I mean, reaaaly bad and implausible shit.
Echo Mirage
Arcane
Well if it's anything like a Tom Clancy novel then implausible shit is the watch word and should in the review on the cover. "this is some implausible shit- Steven King". But I have to hear what is it ?.
Machocruz
Arcane
Do they limit your ammo in this one? Because in the older games, that was key in keeping you from going Rambo. Or is that another thing they decided was too limiting for Brocus Fenix larpers?
They even limited you to just the pistol for most levels on hard mode in the original.
Finally. The way you sound I thought you were becoming a new prophet of popamole. Not that I played Blacklist, but the way you were praising a modern shooter was making me feel we were on an alternate reality.
Silva
Arcane
Yeah, and it goes downhill from there. Mission 7 even has CoD-style FPS sections. Whats next ? Jump puzzles ? Boss fights ?
Oh man, I hope it goes back to pure stealth, otherwise I fear I wont have the willpower to finish it.
Oh man, I hope it goes back to pure stealth, otherwise I fear I wont have the willpower to finish it.
Menckenstein
Lunacy of Caen: Todd Reaver
Sorry bitches but there's only one king of stealth:
Silva
Arcane
OK, Im reaching last mission now and here is my final impression: The game is definitely fun, but in trying to cater to different styles (popamole action included) it misses a big opportunity for improving on Chaos Theory and the core elements that distinguished the series in the past. When it do focus on those core elements the game feels great, even showing some genuine improvement on the formula (take a look on the co-op missions). Unfortunately though, those moments are tainted by the frequent popamoleness (first person shooting ? Bosses ? Rocket launcher planes ? Jump puzzles ? ), resulting in a schyzophrenic experience.
Grade: 8.0
I can see this game being a hit if Ubi release a new campaign (DLC ?) purging all popamoleness and focusing on the core stealth elements. Right now though, its a missed opportunity.
Grade: 8.0
I can see this game being a hit if Ubi release a new campaign (DLC ?) purging all popamoleness and focusing on the core stealth elements. Right now though, its a missed opportunity.
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Liston
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Tehran embassy? What's that big problem? It wasn't one of the best levels but it had good parts, there are a lot of hidden passages and it is clearly designed with ghosting in mind unlike conviction. Sure the story is over the top and there is a turret section at the end but it lasts 30s.
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