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Discussion in 'MMO(RP)G Discussion' started by Grunker, Dec 29, 2011.

  1. abija Learned

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    This is one of the most inane things ever and it's used as argument in one form or another in pretty much every imaginable scenario to justify some imbalance.
    Given two players of equal skill that start the game, the one pouring $$$ into it will be slightly better and peak his potential a lot faster than the one investing 0. So he'll be the winner in vast majority of "encounters". Free guy is basically playing with a handicap that lowers over time but never disappears and will most likely spike at every content release.
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    The D-Store gear is NOT the best gear in the game and doesn't require spending money. The absolutely best gear can only be acquired by copious grinding. Aegis and Borg set cannot be bought with $$$ either, unless someone is selling Aegis pieces on the Exchange and you've used cheap C-Store items to make credits. Similarly, the very idea that an XP booster somehow breaks the game is absolutely batshit insane because there's no one forcing you to play more or keep up with someone else, and there is a level cap so no permanent advantage is gained. You just spent less time, big deal.

    In an encounter with two players of equal skill, there are a variety of factors that come to play before any $$$ factors: 1) Ship types (only exception here is if you want a Carrier with a Federation officer), 2) Bridge Officer loadout, 3) Overall weapon types selected. None of these are influenced by IRL cash. And even then, if the other guy has spent money to acquire D-Store weapons and consoles, the other guy can just as well get the same stuff without spending a dime, or better stuff if he wants to. There is no permanent handicap to playing STO 100% free.

    So, get back to moving goal posts.
  3. Black Prophet

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    So what? Again, they're obtainable in-game through random drops, achievements and crafting. And yes, sets give some bonuses, but even hats can be crafted. It takes lotsa metal but it's doable, especially with trading, smelting and shit.
    But TF2 is shit now anyway, so who caresM:
  4. Drakron Savant

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    Because you are completely ignorant about STO.

    The BEST Gear is from the STF store, only way to get it is by playing STFs and trade EDC, Salvage or Tech for it ... the MACO/Omega/Honor Guard sets are the very best sets in the game and still are some of the few sets in the game and only way to get their Mk. XII variants is by Tech Drops from Elite STFs.

    Then comes the other gear, ship weapons and once again the STF Store wins because they have the best modifiers, this is one of the big issues there with STO because if want the best Gear you have no choice but playing STFs because its better that anything else in the game, except consoles but even those are handled by the DOFF assignments.

    As I was mentioning STFS then I am going to point out the inherit issue of the current system ... ITS ENTIRELY LUCK BASED.

    The tech drops are RANDOM, someone can play 100 Elite STFs and never seen one and someone can just doing their first and get one, there is no skill required to get a Tech drop, only LUCK.

    The same goes for the Mk. XII consoles, since the system is random ... one can get a Very Rare Anti-Proton or get a Rare Plasma, heck the system goes even to the DOFF packs they sell as the only thing you are assured is getting a Rare DOFF, I got a Very Rare DOFF for NOTHING because I got lucky on a DOFF assignment that decided to crit.

    Are there exceptions? Some as the DS9 Pack comes with 3 DOFFs you know what they can do but the majority of time its a gamble, the only "P2W" would be the DOFF packs because they are the ones right now with the most influence, except as I mentioned they are RANDOM.

    This leaves us the ships but I always said they were the exception and they come with a price, a free ship can beat a pay ship if someone knows how to use it and since abilities are NOT granted for free in no way they are so dominating.

    Also your line about "every content release" is hilarious because so fat all releases been adding to the game for free, theJem'Hadar Sets and the Reman Set as of pay ships we got the Flasgships (Odyssey/Borats), Atrox Carrier (that is roughly a copy of the Vo'quv that is free) and the Yellowstone that is a shuttle, the game have large problems with content or should I say, the lack of.
  5. toro Scholar

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    STO is StarTrek Online. Now all the acronyms have a meaning :)

    Please carry on, while I go shoot myself ...
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    STO technically does not have lack of content, due to the Foundry. Just pointing that out drakron.
  7. Multi-headed Cow Cipher

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    I was so goddamn lucky on my tac captain. First or second STF I did I got a tech drop and got myself the first tier MACO shield. Haven't gotten another tech drop in 50+ STFs after that. :M
  8. Indy Sandbag Trick Educated

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    I have fun with SW:TOR.

    I don't mind the subscription as long as new content keeps coming on a steady flow.

    Fuck the haters, really.. my Saber of Light pulsates with their emotional energy.
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  9. Tommy Wiseau Savant

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    You just gotta love the SWTOR forums though:

    Quote: Originally Posted by Guajolote [IMG]
    Maybe the DA:2 guys can work on fixing TOR's gameplay issues at least, since apparently story isn't their strong suit.
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    If you think lowly of DA2's story, then you have absolutely no idea what quality storytelling entails. DA2 was as close to literary fiction as gaming has ever gotten: character-driven, huge focus on characterization, not very plot-focused, darker/more serious tone, slower paced, etc..

    Everything else, including this game and every other BioWare game, is genre fiction. Genre fiction isn't bad in my opinion, but in the upper echelon of literary scholars, literary fiction (Hemingway, etc.) is "serious" fiction whereas genre fiction (Dan Brown, etc.) is "pop" fiction.
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  10. Shadenuat Arbiter

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    TOR forums is a pile of poo.
    The most whining community I've ever seen. You still get all gay tran romances shit BUT it's only on Lore part of forums, so because biotards can't whine about romances in more than 3 subforums they whine about being shitty players in PvP forum and every yodafucking class forum.
    Cunts.

    And I can't even call them retarded, because Bio-admin PMed me and said I use "retarded" word too much in my posts there.
  11. J_C Could be Matt Barton. Maybe.

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    Sure it does. :troll: Although I don't call mine Saber of Light.
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  12. Indy Sandbag Trick Educated

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    If it doesn't perform as requested, I call it The Deflated Elephant of Sadness.

    Needless to say, I prefer it when it pulsates.
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    BioWare hit with layoffs.

    "Impacting people's lives this way is always very hard, but we're ensuring the affected people are treated with dignity, fairness, and respect," said the company's CEO Ray Muzyka and vice president Greg Zeschuk in a joint statement.

    :lol:

    That's right, Ray and Greg. And there I thought having a blockbuster MMO is about keeping those people employed, not firing them.
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    And they replaced those people with the crew of DA3, but they promised it will not influence the production of said game in any way.
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  17. Morgoth Arcane

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    Bunch of fucking sell-outs I say.
  18. Average Manatee Prophet

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    So how often are you allowed to call them retarded?
  19. Indy Sandbag Trick Educated

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    Not very often... I am up to 5 warnings at the moment..

    Good times.

    Retards are abound, Mods are sitting, waiting.. for me to strike again.
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