KickStarter The Banner Saga 3

[Infinitron]

https://bannersaga.com





https://af.gog.com/game/banner_saga_3?as=1649904300

Spoiler

Wow, they really must be in trouble if they just came out of nowhere with this: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/stoic/banner-saga-3

 

[MadMaxHellfire]

how about no?

 

[Rahdulan]

Yeah, very surprising. I still it hope it works out for them if only to see the trilogy end properly.

Any chance you could snatch an interview or something?

 

[Rivmusique]

 

[Feyd Rautha]

They should jsut focus on other games for a while and then return to The Banner Saga when/if the fans demand. This is just stupid.

 

[vortex]

What should they change for BS3 and what should they keep? On steam there are 7 times less owners of BS2 compared to BS1.
Does this mean BS1 players wanted something different?
Should they change the game formula in some different way or improve existing one?

 

[Taka-Haradin puolipeikko]

What should they change for BS3 and what should they keep? On steam there are 7 times less owners of BS2 compared to BS1.
Does this mean BS1 players wanted something different?
Should they change the game formula in some different way or improve existing one?

I think there was 2 factors that worked against Banner Saga 2.
A) According to developers about half of the players rage quitted because of final battle in the first game (Every patch has made said encounters easier).
And
B) Sheer competition; nowadays there isn't such a shortage of squad based tactical games as when Banner Saga 1 was released.

 

[MadMaxHellfire]

i thought banner saga failed because it sucked :V

 

[Marten Broadcloak]

What should they change for BS3 and what should they keep? On steam there are 7 times less owners of BS2 compared to BS1.
Does this mean BS1 players wanted something different?
Should they change the game formula in some different way or improve existing one?

I think there was 2 factors that worked against Banner Saga 2.
A) According to developers about half of the players rage quitted because of final battle in the first game (Every patch has made said encounters easier).
And
B) Sheer competition; nowadays there isn't such a shortage of squad based tactical games as when Banner Saga 1 was released.

Yeah, no. I know those are the official reasons given by Stoic in their last interview, but that's utter bullshit. BS2 failed because it was more of the same and because they had completely lost contact with their community. Looks like BS3 is headed that way too. I wish them luck.

 

[toro]

What should they change for BS3 and what should they keep? On steam there are 7 times less owners of BS2 compared to BS1.
Does this mean BS1 players wanted something different?
Should they change the game formula in some different way or improve existing one?

I think there was 2 factors that worked against Banner Saga 2.
A) According to developers about half of the players rage quitted because of final battle in the first game (Every patch has made said encounters easier).
And
B) Sheer competition; nowadays there isn't such a shortage of squad based tactical games as when Banner Saga 1 was released.

I think I will go with A.

The final battle was really retarded and there was one stupid DRM debacle.

However IMHO the main problem for the 1st game was that the story had absolutely no closure. The ending came out of nowhere and it was abrupt. No lore was explained and they forced you to kill one of your main characters (edgy stuff which now bites them in the ass).

You cannot build a franchise when you are not able to pull off at least a partially satisfying ending for the 1st game.

 

[hivemind]

failed saga

 

[Ovplain]

In it for a double sawbuck. Though I'm already having second thoughts. Still haven't bought Banner Saga 2, been waiting for the price to drop below 10. So why exactly am I willing to give 'em twenty for this now?

 

[Infinitron]

In it for a double sawbuck. Though I'm already having second thoughts. Still haven't bought Banner Saga 2, been waiting for the price to drop below 10. So why exactly am I willing to give 'em twenty for this now?

They should have an option to add-on just $10 to get the second game.

 

[I ASK INANE QUESTIONS]

i thought banner saga failed because it sucked :V

Very few games fail because they suck these days. These days, it's either a real, genuine turd like Aliens:Colonial Marines or it failed because the marketing just wasn't enough.

 

[MadMaxHellfire]

that's true. to an extent: infinite biocock. all the ass creeps. i don't want to name them all.
still, failed or not, banner saga sucked.

 

[Ovplain]

In it for a double sawbuck. Though I'm already having second thoughts. Still haven't bought Banner Saga 2, been waiting for the price to drop below 10. So why exactly am I willing to give 'em twenty for this now?

They should have an option to add-on just $10 to get the second game.

'check the FAQ - if you wish to add on Banner Saga 2, you can pledge an additional $15. Thanks!'

Ah.

 

[DramaticPopcorn]

This is in their FAQ

That full-time community relations guy is working wonders!

 

[Ivan]

sardonic

 

[IHaveHugeNick]

Oh dear. Obsidian must be pissed, they were probably about to launch PoE2 on Fig on Thursday, and now BS3 comes completely out of nowhere asking money from basically the same group of people.

 

[IHaveHugeNick]

Before you read on! You're invited to press play on this beautiful, immersive track from the Banner Saga soundtrack, and let it bring you into the world while you browse the page.

How about eat shit and die.

 

[Infinitron]

Oh dear. Obsidian must be pissed, they were probably about to launch PoE2 on Fig on Thursday, and now BS3 comes completely out of nowhere asking money from basically the same group of people.

Also two good adventure game Kickstarters.

(I don't know if Obsidian plan to launch then though. It could just be a fancy trailer and an announcement of a later date.)

 

[Siobhan]

BS1 was worth giving a try since it looked very atmospheric and the battle system had some slight deviations from the standard formula that could have made for a nice change. But the game turned out to be incredibly boring, with extremely repetitive encounter design, little tactical variety and literally minutes of idly staring at the screen because the caravan mechanics were completely broken (by design, I guess). From what I've heard, BS2 is mechanically more of the same while not really moving the narrative along much, so the fact that nobody bought it actually gives me a tiny ounce of faith in humanity.

 

[Severian Silk]

Banner Saga was underwhelming. Will buy sequels when they get cheap tho.

 

[Harg Harfardarssen]

This is in their FAQ

That full-time community relations guy is working wonders!

Amusingly, when I Ctrl+F similitude, it is not actually used in the body of the kickstarter. So they created a straw man backer to make fun of for asking about a word they didn't even use.

Also the beautiful, immersive song they include is just one of thousands of incredibly generic sad pseudo-celtic violin pieces released every year.

 

[felipepepe]

However IMHO the main problem for the 1st game was that the story had absolutely no closure. The ending came out of nowhere and it was abrupt. No lore was explained and they forced you to kill one of your main characters (edgy stuff which now bites them in the ass).

You cannot build a franchise when you are not able to pull off at least a partially satisfying ending for the 1st game.

Wasn't the game originally pitched as three Telltale-like chapters, not three full games? Seems like a case of Double Fine-ism, where they got too much money, went crazy with the scope and fucked it up.