The Witcher 1 Thread

[MasPingon]

Except it's not. Michael Jackson emot means - it's a good popcorn flick.

 

[DalekFlay]

For the billion time, i am not saying that this gameplay was invented yesterday, i am saying that it multiplied (on a very large scale) with the current era, in which most games are cross platform, including IP that weren't like that, which is the case with TW, from TW2 onward. I never said it is the case with TW1. If you think so, you should quote the sentence that made you think that.

I am not saying that shoulder view isn't PC enough, just that it shouldn't replace iso in games that allowed it initially.

Like I said, it was hard to tell what exactly you were saying due to language issues.

And I frankly disagree anyway. Most of the games I played 20 years ago required a lot of keyboard input. Every shooter, every action game for the most part. Yes RPGs have become more reliant on keyboard walking and such, but I think that has more to do with 3D than consoles. A lot of poiint-n-click RPGs back in the day simulated an over-the-shoulder perspective or third-person perspective, so it makes sense they would go full walking control when 3D allowed them to.

 

[DraQ]

Except it's not. Michael Jackson emot means - it's a good popcorn flick.

What about "disgonbgud"?

 

[Infinitron]

The avatard emoticon means "lots of autism and autism-like dumbness in this thread".

 

[Branm]

To be fair a lot of the true classics we have now the limitations with the hardware back then forced them into a certain path.

Its unfortunate that a lot of isometric games went away but I honestly think that if those developers had the options they have now they probably would of developed the games in 3d.


I suppose if you look at like that then technical limitations are what has given us such great games as the original Fallouts, BG etc etc....In this case the decline was actually caused by the incline of the hardware available to the average consumer

 

[naossano]

I feel too lazy to have that conversation again.
Could someone provide that gentleman some links ?

 

[bozia2012]

Yeah, everything which is not full 3D is because of technical limitations and everything that requires some effort from the player is bad design.

 

[Akratus]

The avatard emoticon means "lots of autism and autism-like dumbness in this thread".

So should I put it in every post I make then?

 

[Ezrite]

Suddenly I am in the epilog. I would off stayed with the Lady of the Lake.

 

[Ezrite]

Aaand done. Maybe the GM was right with his plan?

 

[naossano]

I found the ending quite intesting, but i think there are a few holes in the explanations.
For instance, i am not sure he explained why he hated the dwarves/elves so much, especially while his plan rely on other kind of non humans.
On the other hand, i quite enjoyed fighting for saving the soul of the main villain, right before ending his life. Feel like being able to aknowledge both the sympathy for the man and the need to stop him for good.

 

[pippin]

He hated elves and dwarves because they were commies, this is poland after all.
Ok, seriously this time, I think he hated them because they represented the "old world" he was trying to purge.

 

[Ezrite]

I guess so.

Also, was he Alvin? Some kind of convelutated time travelling. And he hate elves cause of the events in Muddy Waters.

 

[Seaking4]

I guess so.

Also, was he Alvin? Some kind of convelutated time travelling. And he hate elves cause of the events in Muddy Waters.

Actually, as far as time travelling goes, I think it was handled pretty damn well in TW1. Normally it ends up in some kind shitstorm. Even when you try to plan ahead for that (Fringe tried that and somehow it ended up even worse).

Does anybody know if how you behave to Alvin during the first few chapters changes his dialogue/actions near the end of the game?

 

[bozia2012]

I guess so.

Also, was he Alvin? Some kind of convelutated time travelling. And he hate elves cause of the events in Muddy Waters.

Actually, as far as time travelling goes, I think it was handled pretty damn well in TW1. Normally it ends up in some kind shitstorm. Even when you try to plan ahead for that (Fringe tried that and somehow it ended up even worse).

Does anybody know if how you behave to Alvin during the first few chapters changes his dialogue/actions near the end of the game?

He just has a different reasoning for what he does.

 

[Storyfag]

Also, was he Alvin? Some kind of convelutated time travelling. And he hate elves cause of the events in Muddy Waters.

It was never stated outright, but it has been heavily implied by the in-game events.

I guess so.

Also, was he Alvin? Some kind of convelutated time travelling. And he hate elves cause of the events in Muddy Waters.

Actually, as far as time travelling goes, I think it was handled pretty damn well in TW1. Normally it ends up in some kind shitstorm. Even when you try to plan ahead for that (Fringe tried that and somehow it ended up even worse).

Does anybody know if how you behave to Alvin during the first few chapters changes his dialogue/actions near the end of the game?

He just has a different reasoning for what he does.

Still, he pretty neatly mirrors what Geralt tried to teach Alvin in Murky Waters.

 

[DraQ]

Also, was he Alvin? Some kind of convelutated time travelling. And he hate elves cause of the events in Muddy Waters.

It was never stated outright, but it has been heavily implied by the in-game events.

There is also precedent in the novels.

And GM does reference things you said to Alvin and wears identical but worn amulet.
The conclusion simply isn't handed to you on a silver platter.

 

[bozia2012]

It was never stated outright, but it has been heavily implied by the in-game events.



Still, he pretty neatly mirrors what Geralt tried to teach Alvin in Murky Waters.

I didn't want to dismiss it as dev laziness or something. I actually find this amusing from a determinist point of view. It means that stronger factors were at play and him acknowledging Geralt's "teachings" was just a ex post facto rationalization.

 

[DraQ]

It was never stated outright, but it has been heavily implied by the in-game events.



Still, he pretty neatly mirrors what Geralt tried to teach Alvin in Murky Waters.

I didn't want to dismiss it as dev laziness or something. I actually find this amusing from a determinist point of view. It means that stronger factors were at play and him acknowledging Geralt's "teachings" was just a ex post facto rationalization.

IIRC it's executed fairly well.
It's the kind of thing where execution matters a lot.

 

[naossano]

Actually, i would probably need to play the game again someday (order/neutral path, as i sided with elves/dwarves), but in my opinion, there are too many schemes in the whole game in which salamandra/flaming rose seems to be involved. Some plots seems obvious, others are explained by the GM, but i am not sure you get the reasons for each and all of these plots, and some plots are introduced in the epilogue.

The Alvin stuff (won't elaborate as i prefer to remain spoiler free) is not outright confirmed, but implied enough for you to get it, but i feel there are some many schemes that some of them may have been forgotten in the end, or not enough explained.

 

[bozia2012]

IIRC it's executed fairly well.
It's the kind of thing where execution matters a lot.

Ok, I guess I worded it wrong again. I liked that part

 

[Rpgsaurus Rex]

The avatard emoticon means "lots of autism and autism-like dumbness in this thread".

So should I put it in every post I make then?

Yes.

 

[Ezrite]

Since you find an old amulet on his body, of the same style as the one Alvin had...

Anyway, I followed Order.I always had a knack for following the order and lawful parts in games. Guess this is why I liked Miranda the authoritive bitch in ME2 aswell. The elves just came of as a terrororganisation who did not much good to really stop people from seeing them as troublemakers and a shit race.

 

[bozia2012]

Since you find an old amulet on his body, of the same style as the one Alvin had...

Anyway, I followed Order.I always had a knack for following the order and lawful parts in games. Guess this is why I liked Miranda the authoritive bitch in ME2 aswell. The elves just came of as a terrororganisation who did not much good to really stop people from seeing them as troublemakers and a shit race.

I'm pretty sure the game doesn't represent Scoia'tael properly. There's a disconnect between them and non-humans from city ghettos, you have no idea about pogroms etc. If you haven't played W2 or read the saga, it can be hard to have at least a bit of empathy for them.

 

[naossano]

I think they got their share of abuse in TW1, with the ghetto, the Vivaldi's bank, the expelled armorer, the assault on Voltan etc...
Their darker side is shown too, but on the other hand, i don't see much the order bright side beside Siegfried honor. (if the order path is not chosen, i guess)