Uncharted 4

[Metro]

Homeless with access to the internet.

 

[Metro]

You're pretty uppity for a guy about to die in a gutter. Hope you can play Uncharted 4 on that phone.

 

[toro]

Just finished the game.

It's a bad game but it has its moments. Overall they reduced the popamole shooting sequences and they went with exploration instead. This works fine except for a couple of places where the switch between these two modes doesn't make sense or it feels awkward.

Anyway, good story with great characters. The pirate story is great, there are at least 3 good plot-lines and my only complain is that they played safe with Nate's story. Also there was some feminist bullshit crammed into it but by this point I can avoid it without any effort.

Spoiler

It has the best happy ending possible. The "A Thief's End" from the title is just a red herring. They could not kill the character and they didn't want to kill Sam either.

There were a couple of moments when I wanted to stop doing the motions and watch the whole thing on utube. Shooting with a controller is an atrocity.

In the end I just want to mention one thing: the world design is exceptional and they flaunt this shamelessly. In fact this is the only reason to play this game cause the intricate details and the word are making the journey worthwhile.

Spoiler

New Devon, Libertalia and the entire final island are visual porn.

So, I guess it's done. It took 10 years and now, Nathan Drake's story is finished. It did not end with a bang but at least it ended in a decent manner. I guess this means "it's good for whatever it is".

 

[Metro]

Well thank goodness. Dunno if I could live without closure on Nathan Drake's story.

 

[Sam Ecorners]

Anyway, good story with great characters. The pirate story is great, there are at least 3 good plot-lines and my only complain is that they played safe with Nate's story.

Spoiler

There's a theory out there that Nate didn't actually survive falling down that cliff and everything after that just ended up his dying hallucination.

In terms of overall writing, I actually was surprised by how much Nate was pussyfied. All of a sudden, he's living this life that he clearly hates, but constantly sucks it down. And Elena is completely oblivious to it. I mean, he's a crazy treasure hunter all throughout, he wouldn't do this to himself and she's much smarter than to live blissfully ignorant of how Unhappy he is. Then on top of that, he just wouldn't tell her what he was doing, which is crazy. I mean, I guess in a way he could be afraid that she'll come down and he's being overprotective, but meh.

They've been through this thing before, they even broke off their engagement/marriage in U3 because Nate can't leave this shit behind him and she should be smart enough to know this.

Anyway, the other shitty characterization thing was the dialog between Nate and Elena when he was like "Oh i didn't tell you about this not because I couldn't leave this life behind, but because I was afraid to lose you." GTFO with this pussy ass shit. Nate isn't this dumb.

Ok now, I'm gonna end this spergy shit

 

[toro]

Anyway, good story with great characters. The pirate story is great, there are at least 3 good plot-lines and my only complain is that they played safe with Nate's story.

Spoiler

There's a theory out there that Nate didn't actually survive falling down that cliff and everything after that just ended up his dying hallucination.

In terms of overall writing, I actually was surprised by how much Nate was pussyfied. All of a sudden, he's living this life that he clearly hates, but constantly sucks it down. And Elena is completely oblivious to it. I mean, he's a crazy treasure hunter all throughout, he wouldn't do this to himself and she's much smarter than to live blissfully ignorant of how Unhappy he is. Then on top of that, he just wouldn't tell her what he was doing, which is crazy. I mean, I guess in a way he could be afraid that she'll come down and he's being overprotective, but meh.

They've been through this thing before, they even broke off their engagement/marriage in U3 because Nate can't leave this shit behind him and she should be smart enough to know this.

Anyway, the other shitty characterization thing was the dialog between Nate and Elena when he was like "Oh i didn't tell you about this not because I couldn't leave this life behind, but because I was afraid to lose you." GTFO with this pussy ass shit. Nate isn't this dumb.

Ok now, I'm gonna end this spergy shit

It seems Naughty Dog will go full SJW in the future.

Spoiler

The hallucination theory is bullshit because they worked extra hard for that Epilogue section.

Nate was somewhat pussyfied but to be honest that's what is expected from a married man. He has other priorities until Sam's comes along. They did a pretty good job characterizing his internal struggle with his past.

On the other hand, Elena is perfect. Another perfect female protagonist that can do no wrong. Imho there is no way Nate would choose her instead of Chloe Frazer. In fact Elena doesn't make much sense except as a plot device.

"Oh i didn't tell you about this not because I couldn't leave this life behind, but because I was afraid to lose you. " + "I was protecting me" was utter garbage. I love how all characters are mass murderers with a good heart.

Ohh and Nadine. I love the character but it was completely retarded and it ended up in a clusterfuck. She should have been dead the moment she no longer served Rafe's purpose. I expected that Nate or Sam will kill her but I guess killing female villains is off the table.

There are other nitpicks like for example during their car trip Elena suddenly states why Nadine is partnering with Rafe. Nadine suddenly becomes superstitious instead of greedy when she sees the treasure. Rafe was cartoonly. They never went back for the treasure !? And so on.

But you are right. There is a difference in tone and the overall experience is a little bit tame. As DaS3, Uncharted 4 is a professional work but it lacks some soul.

 

[toro]

You've said in the past that you've been influenced by Anita Sarkeesian's Feminist Frequency videos and the larger conversation about diversity and representation in games. How did that affect Uncharted 4?

When I'm introducing and describing a new character to our lead character concept artist, constantly she will ask, "What if it was a girl?" And I'm like, Oh, I didn't think about that. Let me think, does that affect or change anything? No? Cool, that's different. Yeah, let's do it.

Initially, in the epilogue, it was Nate's son. Something similar happened with the mansion they go into. That was an old English guy's house. She asked, Well, what if it was a woman?

You have some sexist focus testers who were really upset by Nadine beating up Nate, and really upset at the end when it was Nate's daughter. To the point where we had to ask one guy to leave. In his core, it just affected him. He was cursing, "Not you, too, Naughty Dog! Goddammit. I guess I'm done with Uncharted, if you guys ever make another one, with his daughter. This fucking bullshit."

And I was like, Wow, why does that matter?

 

[Sam Ecorners]

Anyway, good story with great characters. The pirate story is great, there are at least 3 good plot-lines and my only complain is that they played safe with Nate's story.

Spoiler

There's a theory out there that Nate didn't actually survive falling down that cliff and everything after that just ended up his dying hallucination.

In terms of overall writing, I actually was surprised by how much Nate was pussyfied. All of a sudden, he's living this life that he clearly hates, but constantly sucks it down. And Elena is completely oblivious to it. I mean, he's a crazy treasure hunter all throughout, he wouldn't do this to himself and she's much smarter than to live blissfully ignorant of how Unhappy he is. Then on top of that, he just wouldn't tell her what he was doing, which is crazy. I mean, I guess in a way he could be afraid that she'll come down and he's being overprotective, but meh.

They've been through this thing before, they even broke off their engagement/marriage in U3 because Nate can't leave this shit behind him and she should be smart enough to know this.

Anyway, the other shitty characterization thing was the dialog between Nate and Elena when he was like "Oh i didn't tell you about this not because I couldn't leave this life behind, but because I was afraid to lose you." GTFO with this pussy ass shit. Nate isn't this dumb.

Ok now, I'm gonna end this spergy shit

It seems Naughty Dog will go full SJW in the future.

Spoiler

The hallucination theory is bullshit because they worked extra hard for that Epilogue section.

Nate was somewhat pussyfied but to be honest that's what is expected from a married man. He has other priorities until Sam's comes along. They did a pretty good job characterizing his internal struggle with his past.

On the other hand, Elena is perfect. Another perfect female protagonist that can do no wrong. Imho there is no way Nate would choose her instead of Chloe Frazer. In fact Elena doesn't make much sense except as a plot device.

"Oh i didn't tell you about this not because I couldn't leave this life behind, but because I was afraid to lose you. " + "I was protecting me" was utter garbage. I love how all characters are mass murderers with a good heart.

Ohh and Nadine. I love the character but it was completely retarded and it ended up in a clusterfuck. She should have been dead the moment she no longer served Rafe's purpose. I expected that Nate or Sam will kill her but I guess killing female villains is off the table.

There are other nitpicks like for example during their car trip Elena suddenly states why Nadine is partnering with Rafe. Nadine suddenly becomes superstitious instead of greedy when she sees the treasure. Rafe was cartoonly. They never went back for the treasure !? And so on.

But you are right. There is a difference in tone and the overall experience is a little bit tame. As DaS3, Uncharted 4 is a professional work but it lacks some soul.

Spoiler

Nadine was fucking awful. Especially the fact that none of the good guys were ever able to hit her, even when they went 2 on 1, but Rafe all of a sudden doesn't just hit her, he fucking slaps her, as if to illustrate just how evil he is -- SHOCK, he slaps a woman, being an evil, controlling bastard, he is. Rafe makes no sense whatsoever. Dude loaded with cash, at the point that he can buy huge castles and blow them up as he pleases, get's hung up on some treasure. If Nate's obsession makes perfect sense: he's an orphaned kid trying to make it. Rafe should've forgotten about it after escaping with his life in Panama. Overall, the plot is really flimsy and falls apart as soon as you look at it closely.

I doubt ND will ever recover from the loss of Amy Hennig, because she appears to be one of those writers who can write right on the border of fantastic and realistic. Previous Uncharted games, as dumb as they are, always had a plot, that, while still relying heavily on coincidences and mcguffins, wasn't entirely built upon happenstance. The characters, while being stereotypes, excelled at what they were, instead of trying to be 2DEEP.

Btw, it's funny how once Amy mentioned once that she didn't experience any sexism in her career, nobody brings her up as some kind of a huge and important person in the achievements of women. But I doubt she cares, she's probably too busy making some great games.

Oh, lastly, Nate's kid being a girl and the old lady in the mansion being a woman don't bother me(albeit old lady's sudden death was another one of those unbelievable coincidences), but Nadine was awful. Her motivation didn't make sense, her relationship with Rafe didn't make sense, her past with Sully was hinted at, but never explored, her just peacing out just showed tons of great potential.

Overall, it was clear, ND, being huge pussies themselves, got really afraid of upsetting anyone, so the build a game designed by focus groups. And it's still a fun ride, but it doesn't really do anything interesting for the series. Real excited for Amy Hennig's SW game now, tho.

 

[toro]

Anyway, good story with great characters. The pirate story is great, there are at least 3 good plot-lines and my only complain is that they played safe with Nate's story.

Spoiler

There's a theory out there that Nate didn't actually survive falling down that cliff and everything after that just ended up his dying hallucination.

In terms of overall writing, I actually was surprised by how much Nate was pussyfied. All of a sudden, he's living this life that he clearly hates, but constantly sucks it down. And Elena is completely oblivious to it. I mean, he's a crazy treasure hunter all throughout, he wouldn't do this to himself and she's much smarter than to live blissfully ignorant of how Unhappy he is. Then on top of that, he just wouldn't tell her what he was doing, which is crazy. I mean, I guess in a way he could be afraid that she'll come down and he's being overprotective, but meh.

They've been through this thing before, they even broke off their engagement/marriage in U3 because Nate can't leave this shit behind him and she should be smart enough to know this.

Anyway, the other shitty characterization thing was the dialog between Nate and Elena when he was like "Oh i didn't tell you about this not because I couldn't leave this life behind, but because I was afraid to lose you." GTFO with this pussy ass shit. Nate isn't this dumb.

Ok now, I'm gonna end this spergy shit

It seems Naughty Dog will go full SJW in the future.

Spoiler

The hallucination theory is bullshit because they worked extra hard for that Epilogue section.

Nate was somewhat pussyfied but to be honest that's what is expected from a married man. He has other priorities until Sam's comes along. They did a pretty good job characterizing his internal struggle with his past.

On the other hand, Elena is perfect. Another perfect female protagonist that can do no wrong. Imho there is no way Nate would choose her instead of Chloe Frazer. In fact Elena doesn't make much sense except as a plot device.

"Oh i didn't tell you about this not because I couldn't leave this life behind, but because I was afraid to lose you. " + "I was protecting me" was utter garbage. I love how all characters are mass murderers with a good heart.

Ohh and Nadine. I love the character but it was completely retarded and it ended up in a clusterfuck. She should have been dead the moment she no longer served Rafe's purpose. I expected that Nate or Sam will kill her but I guess killing female villains is off the table.

There are other nitpicks like for example during their car trip Elena suddenly states why Nadine is partnering with Rafe. Nadine suddenly becomes superstitious instead of greedy when she sees the treasure. Rafe was cartoonly. They never went back for the treasure !? And so on.

But you are right. There is a difference in tone and the overall experience is a little bit tame. As DaS3, Uncharted 4 is a professional work but it lacks some soul.

Spoiler

Nadine was fucking awful. Especially the fact that none of the good guys were ever able to hit her, even when they went 2 on 1, but Rafe all of a sudden doesn't just hit her, he fucking slaps her, as if to illustrate just how evil he is -- SHOCK, he slaps a woman, being an evil, controlling bastard, he is. Rafe makes no sense whatsoever. Dude loaded with cash, at the point that he can buy huge castles and blow them up as he pleases, get's hung up on some treasure. If Nate's obsession makes perfect sense: he's an orphaned kid trying to make it. Rafe should've forgotten about it after escaping with his life in Panama. Overall, the plot is really flimsy and falls apart as soon as you look at it closely.

I doubt ND will ever recover from the loss of Amy Hennig, because she appears to be one of those writers who can write right on the border of fantastic and realistic. Previous Uncharted games, as dumb as they are, always had a plot, that, while still relying heavily on coincidences and mcguffins, wasn't entirely built upon happenstance. The characters, while being stereotypes, excelled at what they were, instead of trying to be 2DEEP.

Btw, it's funny how once Amy mentioned once that she didn't experience any sexism in her career, nobody brings her up as some kind of a huge and important person in the achievements of women. But I doubt she cares, she's probably too busy making some great games.

Oh, lastly, Nate's kid being a girl and the old lady in the mansion being a woman don't bother me(albeit old lady's sudden death was another one of those unbelievable coincidences), but Nadine was awful. Her motivation didn't make sense, her relationship with Rafe didn't make sense, her past with Sully was hinted at, but never explored, her just peacing out just showed tons of great potential.

Overall, it was clear, ND, being huge pussies themselves, got really afraid of upsetting anyone, so the build a game designed by focus groups. And it's still a fun ride, but it doesn't really do anything interesting for the series. Real excited for Amy Hennig's SW game now, tho.

Yes. Uncharted 4 is the game where the protagonist cannot hit a black female at all but he can slaughter hundreds of white men.

 

[J_C]

I don't know where do you get that Naughty Dog is SJW from.
http://kotaku.com/uncharted-4-director-says-they-had-to-ask-one-sexist-fo-1778198178

Spoiler

Uncharted 4 Director Says They Had To Ask One 'Sexist Focus Tester' To Leave
Not everyone was happy with new Uncharted 4 characters like Nadine “Triceps” Ross. In fact, according to director Neil Druckmann, his team had to ask an angry focus tester to leave the room after he freaked out over the game’s portrayal of women.

WARNING: Spoilers for Uncharted 4's ending follow.

Druckmann sat down with Kotaku friend Chris Suellentrop for an interview in the newly launched Glixel,an upcoming gaming website byRolling Stone. (I would make fun of the name Glixel, but hey, ours isKotaku.) There are a lot of interesting nuggets in there, including Druckmann’s answer to a question about game critic Anita Sarkeesian and how her work has affected Naughty Dog. Read this:


You’ve said in the past that you’ve been influenced by Anita Sarkeesian’s Feminist Frequency videos and the larger conversation about diversity and representation in games. How did that affectUncharted 4?

Druckmann: When I’m introducing and describing a new character to our lead character concept artist, constantly she will ask, “What if it was a girl?” And I’m like, Oh, I didn’t think about that. Let me think, does that affect or change anything? No? Cool, that’s different. Yeah, let’s do it.

Initially, in the epilogue, it was Nate’s son. Something similar happened with the mansion they go into. That was an old English guy’s house. She asked, Well, what if it was a woman?

You have some sexist focus testers who were really upset by Nadine beating up Nate, and really upset at the end when it was Nate’s daughter. To the point where we had to ask one guy to leave. In his core, it just affected him. He was cursing, “Not you, too, Naughty Dog! Goddammit. I guess I’m done with Uncharted, if you guys ever make another one, with his daughter. This fucking bullshit.”

And I was like, Wow, why does that matter?

Two thoughts:

1) There’s something both hilarious and depressing about the image of an MRA focus group tester coming in and yelling things like “Not you too, Naughty Dog!” because they dared to make Nathan Drake have a daughter instead of a son.

2) No matter your opinions on Sarkeesian and her work, I hope you’ll agree that getting developers to think “What if this were a girl?” rather than assuming a male default is a very good thing for gaming. It’s so easy for writers to fall into the routine of telling only stories about people who act and think like them. Pushing those storytellers to consider other options can lead to way more interesting decisions and way better stories. And hopefully we’ll get to play as Cassie Drake in the DLC.

 

[Sam Ecorners]

I don't know where do you get that Naughty Dog is SJW from.
http://kotaku.com/uncharted-4-director-says-they-had-to-ask-one-sexist-fo-1778198178

Spoiler

Uncharted 4 Director Says They Had To Ask One 'Sexist Focus Tester' To Leave
Not everyone was happy with new Uncharted 4 characters like Nadine “Triceps” Ross. In fact, according to director Neil Druckmann, his team had to ask an angry focus tester to leave the room after he freaked out over the game’s portrayal of women.

WARNING: Spoilers for Uncharted 4's ending follow.

Druckmann sat down with Kotaku friend Chris Suellentrop for an interview in the newly launched Glixel,an upcoming gaming website byRolling Stone. (I would make fun of the name Glixel, but hey, ours isKotaku.) There are a lot of interesting nuggets in there, including Druckmann’s answer to a question about game critic Anita Sarkeesian and how her work has affected Naughty Dog. Read this:


You’ve said in the past that you’ve been influenced by Anita Sarkeesian’s Feminist Frequency videos and the larger conversation about diversity and representation in games. How did that affectUncharted 4?

Druckmann: When I’m introducing and describing a new character to our lead character concept artist, constantly she will ask, “What if it was a girl?” And I’m like, Oh, I didn’t think about that. Let me think, does that affect or change anything? No? Cool, that’s different. Yeah, let’s do it.

Initially, in the epilogue, it was Nate’s son. Something similar happened with the mansion they go into. That was an old English guy’s house. She asked, Well, what if it was a woman?

You have some sexist focus testers who were really upset by Nadine beating up Nate, and really upset at the end when it was Nate’s daughter. To the point where we had to ask one guy to leave. In his core, it just affected him. He was cursing, “Not you, too, Naughty Dog! Goddammit. I guess I’m done with Uncharted, if you guys ever make another one, with his daughter. This fucking bullshit.”

And I was like, Wow, why does that matter?

Two thoughts:

1) There’s something both hilarious and depressing about the image of an MRA focus group tester coming in and yelling things like “Not you too, Naughty Dog!” because they dared to make Nathan Drake have a daughter instead of a son.

2) No matter your opinions on Sarkeesian and her work, I hope you’ll agree that getting developers to think “What if this were a girl?” rather than assuming a male default is a very good thing for gaming. It’s so easy for writers to fall into the routine of telling only stories about people who act and think like them. Pushing those storytellers to consider other options can lead to way more interesting decisions and way better stories. And hopefully we’ll get to play as Cassie Drake in the DLC.

literally 3 posts above yours

 

[J_C]

I don't know where do you get that Naughty Dog is SJW from.
http://kotaku.com/uncharted-4-director-says-they-had-to-ask-one-sexist-fo-1778198178

Spoiler

Uncharted 4 Director Says They Had To Ask One 'Sexist Focus Tester' To Leave
Not everyone was happy with new Uncharted 4 characters like Nadine “Triceps” Ross. In fact, according to director Neil Druckmann, his team had to ask an angry focus tester to leave the room after he freaked out over the game’s portrayal of women.

WARNING: Spoilers for Uncharted 4's ending follow.

Druckmann sat down with Kotaku friend Chris Suellentrop for an interview in the newly launched Glixel,an upcoming gaming website byRolling Stone. (I would make fun of the name Glixel, but hey, ours isKotaku.) There are a lot of interesting nuggets in there, including Druckmann’s answer to a question about game critic Anita Sarkeesian and how her work has affected Naughty Dog. Read this:


You’ve said in the past that you’ve been influenced by Anita Sarkeesian’s Feminist Frequency videos and the larger conversation about diversity and representation in games. How did that affectUncharted 4?

Druckmann: When I’m introducing and describing a new character to our lead character concept artist, constantly she will ask, “What if it was a girl?” And I’m like, Oh, I didn’t think about that. Let me think, does that affect or change anything? No? Cool, that’s different. Yeah, let’s do it.

Initially, in the epilogue, it was Nate’s son. Something similar happened with the mansion they go into. That was an old English guy’s house. She asked, Well, what if it was a woman?

You have some sexist focus testers who were really upset by Nadine beating up Nate, and really upset at the end when it was Nate’s daughter. To the point where we had to ask one guy to leave. In his core, it just affected him. He was cursing, “Not you, too, Naughty Dog! Goddammit. I guess I’m done with Uncharted, if you guys ever make another one, with his daughter. This fucking bullshit.”

And I was like, Wow, why does that matter?

Two thoughts:

1) There’s something both hilarious and depressing about the image of an MRA focus group tester coming in and yelling things like “Not you too, Naughty Dog!” because they dared to make Nathan Drake have a daughter instead of a son.

2) No matter your opinions on Sarkeesian and her work, I hope you’ll agree that getting developers to think “What if this were a girl?” rather than assuming a male default is a very good thing for gaming. It’s so easy for writers to fall into the routine of telling only stories about people who act and think like them. Pushing those storytellers to consider other options can lead to way more interesting decisions and way better stories. And hopefully we’ll get to play as Cassie Drake in the DLC.

literally 3 posts above yours

 

[AwesomeButton]

Nadine seemed highly fuckable the first time I saw her. Haven't watched the whole movie yet, please don't spoil. All I know so far is that if they were trying to preserve the player from sinful thoughts, they failed. As usual with SJWs their efforts backfire.

 

[Drakron]

I don't know where do you get that Naughty Dog is SJW from.
http://kotaku.com/uncharted-4-director-says-they-had-to-ask-one-sexist-fo-1778198178

Spoiler

Uncharted 4 Director Says They Had To Ask One 'Sexist Focus Tester' To Leave
Not everyone was happy with new Uncharted 4 characters like Nadine “Triceps” Ross. In fact, according to director Neil Druckmann, his team had to ask an angry focus tester to leave the room after he freaked out over the game’s portrayal of women.

WARNING: Spoilers for Uncharted 4's ending follow.

Druckmann sat down with Kotaku friend Chris Suellentrop for an interview in the newly launched Glixel,an upcoming gaming website byRolling Stone. (I would make fun of the name Glixel, but hey, ours isKotaku.) There are a lot of interesting nuggets in there, including Druckmann’s answer to a question about game critic Anita Sarkeesian and how her work has affected Naughty Dog. Read this:


You’ve said in the past that you’ve been influenced by Anita Sarkeesian’s Feminist Frequency videos and the larger conversation about diversity and representation in games. How did that affectUncharted 4?

Druckmann: When I’m introducing and describing a new character to our lead character concept artist, constantly she will ask, “What if it was a girl?” And I’m like, Oh, I didn’t think about that. Let me think, does that affect or change anything? No? Cool, that’s different. Yeah, let’s do it.

Initially, in the epilogue, it was Nate’s son. Something similar happened with the mansion they go into. That was an old English guy’s house. She asked, Well, what if it was a woman?

You have some sexist focus testers who were really upset by Nadine beating up Nate, and really upset at the end when it was Nate’s daughter. To the point where we had to ask one guy to leave. In his core, it just affected him. He was cursing, “Not you, too, Naughty Dog! Goddammit. I guess I’m done with Uncharted, if you guys ever make another one, with his daughter. This fucking bullshit.”

And I was like, Wow, why does that matter?

Two thoughts:

1) There’s something both hilarious and depressing about the image of an MRA focus group tester coming in and yelling things like “Not you too, Naughty Dog!” because they dared to make Nathan Drake have a daughter instead of a son.

2) No matter your opinions on Sarkeesian and her work, I hope you’ll agree that getting developers to think “What if this were a girl?” rather than assuming a male default is a very good thing for gaming. It’s so easy for writers to fall into the routine of telling only stories about people who act and think like them. Pushing those storytellers to consider other options can lead to way more interesting decisions and way better stories. And hopefully we’ll get to play as Cassie Drake in the DLC.

literally 3 posts above yours

It is pretty obvious with the black chick and I note that must been done after parts were completed since she acts like Zoran did in 2.

But the dumbest shit is this ... we had Elena, Choe and Marlowe, its not as if the series was lacking female protagonists in cast and yet we have Nathan that fought a super Zoran but cannot defeat Nadine because she is a girl, thats just absurd considering he fought someone that was far far far far more capable that her, Zoran and won.

But that is far as far SWJ goes. you do notice it (and this is why you would write about what you know) but the rest is just Uncharted, even the daughter is well meh, you could have cut that and nothing would be lost.

 

[Sam Ecorners]

Chloe was awesome. Marlowe was menacing af. Nadine is just different in every scene, she doesn't even have a lasting personality.

 

[DosBuster]

Also, if there are already enough male protagonists, why do we need to add more? Jesus, we've already hit the MRA demographic enough at this point.

 

[Rivmusique]

 

[sullynathan]

 

[anus_pounder]

Only played the first two, but they were fun enough popamolers I thought. Pity this is a PS4 exclusive. It seems like a half-decent time waster, but I'm not buying a new console just for this.

 

[Tehdagah]

8:41 of nothing.

This demo is a masterclass in guiding the players eyes. The hole in the fence framaing the red door. The bottle rolling down the ramp, the rat scurrying to the left. Even the big pink sign on the roof in a relatively colorless enviornment. This is why I love Naughty Dog.

It just lacked a game.

 

[A horse of course]

They look like dudes.

 

[vortex]

 

[A horse of course]

They look like dudes too.

 

[toro]

They look like dudes.

And that stops you from putting your dick in ?

 

[A horse of course]

my what