Wasteland The Wasteland 2 Beta Release Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[Grunker]

There is indeed a huge burnout, reason why I haven't played the game in like 6 months. High expectations + Fargo's hype + beta-that's-actually-alpha do that.

It may have helped InXile a lot, but I think that having almost a year of EA was very detrimental to the overall experience of any backer that played the game during that time.

There is a reason I stay the fuck away from anything not looking like finished versions

 

[mindx2]

There is indeed a huge burnout, reason why I haven't played the game in like 6 months. High expectations + Fargo's hype + beta-that's-actually-alpha do that.

It may have helped InXile a lot, but I think that having almost a year of EA was very detrimental to the overall experience of any backer that played the game during that time.

Which is why I avoid EA like the plague. I want to go into the final release fresh and with no preconceived notions. Yes, I read the criticisms here, as well as the praises, but all that's done is help temper my enthusiasm and avoid getting caught up in Fargo's hype-machine. That's how I wanted to experience this game and once I'm done I will certainly post my impressions, hopefully from a non-biased perspective...

 

[TwinkieGorilla]

There is a reason I stay the fuck away from anything not looking like finished versions

So you're not going to play the game at all?

 

[Infinitron]

I think that having almost a year of EA was very detrimental to the overall experience of any backer that played the game during that time.

This depends a lot on the individual backer, IMO. Some people are more cut out for it than others, as this conversation demonstrates.

 

[Brother None]

In general Early Access and Beta are not for everyone. I personally only jump in for "a taste" of any game I get beta access to, including D:OS before its release (haven't had too much time to play it since either tbh). If it's not for you I generally council people to stay away or not play too much. But I do appreciate the people who do jump in and provide constant feedback, and the game's better for it. I think some people enjoy watching it improve in leaps and bounds over this period, it's not a side of development you see too often.

1. Performance is night and day. Due to some recent pc problems I currently only have 2gb of ram, even so the game is running perfect smooth with both shadows and AA on.

The fact that you can even run it with 2GB of RAM is honestly a minor miracle.

I don't know anything about this specific discussion, but backer hangovers are widespread.

Kickstarters by definition set very high expectations. I don't think that's a bad thing, it puts pressure on the developer to over-deliver, though I realize not every dev will be in as fortunate a situation as inXile is...

 

[Grunker]

Kickstarters by definition set very high expectations. I don't think that's a bad thing, it puts pressure on the developer to over-deliver, though I realize not every dev will be in as fortunate a situation as inXile is...

Perhaps. I haven't seen any brilliant Kickstarter games released that will end up on any Codex top 10's yet though. I hope WL2/PoE/ToN can break that poor record.

There is a reason I stay the fuck away from anything not looking like finished versions

So you're not going to play the game at all?

 

[buzz]

Perhaps. I haven't seen any brilliant Kickstarter games released that will end up on any Codex top 10's yet though. I hope WL2/PoE/ToN can break that poor record.

Don't worry bro, just come back in 10 years and see a whole plethora of people praising them. That's how it worked for BG and TOEE and Morrowind at least.

 

[Kem0sabe]

The capital letters were supposed to be a hint that I was being semi-sarcastic. But in any case, onholyservicebound and myself are also BIASED.

The point is that it's kinda dumb to ask "SO GUIZ IS IT LINEAR???" when you can get the answer to that yourself so easily.

Highpool is one long linear corridor, ag Centre is a series of corridors. How are those lp videos going to show anything different?

 

[undecaf]

5. Combat is flowing much better and faster, but gets boring after a few encounters, would improve with more abilities, called shots and perks.

Yeah. It has been improving little by little with each update, but despite there being a lot of systems at work, there's always been this lack of "what are my options here, what all can I do" -thinking during the combat events and it always plays out pretty raw and often (not always) uneventful by comparison to what the party mechanic would seem to suggest. I could well see a called shots system for chances of altering some status effects (crippling, bleeding, stun, etc) to liven up the events by quite a margin.

 

[Darkzone]

Why don't you guys just watch an LP instead of listening to the opinions of BIASED people. It's not like this is secret knowledge.

So much that i had tears in my eyes. We all are biased, as you have correctly stated.
I hope sincerely that this skeletal level still continuing, and that the current beta is also only one skeletal level. And then the big positive surprise will be then in mid september.... or the great disappointment.
As undecaf stated it is improving, but at this rate, i would state it will be ready in December.... next year. (Or the big surprise is in september, as i always hope.)
Since Fargo always states that Wasteland 2 is a big game, i have to add, that size does not matter alone. The pressure or the density are important correlated factors with the size. And current Wasteland 2 lacks this factors.

 

[Sensuki]

The fact that you can even run it with 2GB of RAM is honestly a minor miracle.

In Windows 7 it probably is, but if he's running it in WinXP, then no - XP doesnt use up much RAM.

 

[Brother None]

The fact that you can even run it with 2GB of RAM is honestly a minor miracle.

In Windows 7 it probably is, but if he's running it in WinXP, then no - XP doesnt use up much RAM.

I know XP does not, but the game does. Some areas can run fine with 2GB RAM but I can't imagine the world map not making the game crash to desktop with an out of memory error. It's nice to know it's possible though! It's like when someone mentioned playing the game on his Windows Surface tablet; it's nice to know it's possible even if we officially go "no that's probably not gonna work".

 

[tuluse]

I know XP does not, but the game does. Some areas can run fine with 2GB RAM but I can't imagine the world map not making the game crash to desktop with an out of memory error. It's nice to know it's possible though! It's like when someone mentioned playing the game on his Windows Surface tablet; it's nice to know it's possible even if we officially go "no that's probably not gonna work".

Well, remember Windows has virtual memory. So even if you run out of ram, it should be able to use the hard drive to simulate more. It will just be slow.

 

[Infinitron]

I'll PM you our conversation as proof.
EDIT: For those who are wondering, the reason the digital version cannot be released as well is not a case of the physical goods arriving in time. It is a case of the rating board authorizing release. They're waiting for all the rating boards to review the game.

Brian Fargo‏ @BrianFargo
Probably not a shock but #Wasteland2 received it's ESRB rating today, Mature as expected.

 

[Ulminati]

One thing I noticed as my curiosity got the better of me and I fired W2 up was that all the character portraits I had used last time I touched the beta were unavailable. Instead there were 4-5 uninspiring pictures for either gender and the option to take a "photo" of your low-poly i-game character. When I loaded the old save, the characters still had their old (better portraits). So why the fuck did inXile feel the need to delete half the character portraits from chargen?

 

[tuluse]

One thing I noticed as my curiosity got the better of me and I fired W2 up was that all the character portraits I had used last time I touched the beta were unavailable. Instead there were 4-5 uninspiring pictures for either gender and the option to take a "photo" of your low-poly i-game character. When I loaded the old save, the characters still had their old (better portraits). So why the fuck did inXile feel the need to delete half the character portraits from chargen?

I think all the previous portraits were used for NPCs. So the new ones are probably unique.

 

[Zombra]

One thing I noticed as my curiosity got the better of me and I fired W2 up was that all the character portraits I had used last time I touched the beta were unavailable. Instead there were 4-5 uninspiring pictures for either gender and the option to take a "photo" of your low-poly i-game character. When I loaded the old save, the characters still had their old (better portraits). So why the fuck did inXile feel the need to delete half the character portraits from chargen?

My theory is that all the old art was "used up" assigning unique portraits to NPCs. Which I support really, because I don't like one picture being reused for a bunch of different NPCs. I can come up with my own art for PCs.

Anyway, if you are too lazy to make your own, go here or here or here. There are a billion portraits already out there. Drop the .png files in Users/JoeBlow/My Documents/My Games/Wasteland 2/Custom Portraits.

 

[Ulminati]

I'm doing a Kodex Kool Krew. The only portrait I need is

 

[Sensuki]

I know XP does not, but the game does. Some areas can run fine with 2GB RAM but I can't imagine the world map not making the game crash to desktop with an out of memory error. It's nice to know it's possible though! It's like when someone mentioned playing the game on his Windows Surface tablet; it's nice to know it's possible even if we officially go "no that's probably not gonna work".

I've seen WL2 take up 800mb on my system, but I haven't actually had the task manager open when I've been playing it all the time.

 

[Darkzone]

sea and brother none
Since the Wasteland 2 is still in the making, i will ask some questions, that normally inXile should be asking.
If they are already working on them than it is also good that i ask it. Because currently the Beta is so skeletal, that if it would be a horse, i would shoot it, to deliver it from its pain.

Day 1 questions:

Spoiler

Two questions concerning the character generation:
1) This is referring to to body model type. Why do they all look like escapees from a concentration camp? I know that they life in the Wasteland and it takes its toll, but i cannot create someone with some muscles or a fat guy.
2) Why do we not have a possibility to toggle the look of clothing or armor of the torso? I know that the rangers should look all different, but some of us want to let them look (the own party) perhaps the same, or they want to see the armor that they have on their body. Currently i go for the uni-optic, because at least they look this way like a combat troop, and not like some undisciplined heap of escapees.

Three questions towards about the quests its result over time:
1) Why after the destruction of the AG Center we cannot save Katherine Lawson? What is the problem to cut her off and heal her with the serum? We should be able at least cut her loose from the vine. And if she is healed, she could go to the ranger citadel to help there in research at basement as a example.
2) Why cannot we use the cure in the destroyed Ag Center to decontaminate at least the outer part? Hey if a generator is broken to disperse the cure, i know where one can get an old engine (wink wink).
3) Why cannot we say to the people in the prison area, that they can go to Highpool or Ag Center. At least there is food and water and now they can also use some hands there.

But since it is not so late, that i have to go to sleep. I will do my question work also for tomorrow.

Day 2 questions:

Spoiler

1) Why does not send Vargas a stationary troop to Highpool or Ag Center after the attack, to protect them? Hey they are weak and could use real protection. They are the last water and food source for the rangers, if this is gone or destroyed, the rangers will be fucked.
2) Why cannot we seek a husband for Jesse Belle? (A stationary Ranger would be a great Knight with armor and with a shining Ranger Star.)
3) Why do the fires still burn if we return to Highpool after a long time?
4) Why can't say to somebody who wants to join us, that he should go the the ranger citadel and wait there?

1) Why does the Atchison Casey James in his camp still has his arm, after he has cut his arm off.

 

[Zed]

what are the specs for custom portraits?

 

[Brother None]

what are the specs for custom portraits?

256x256 JPG, PNG or TGA.

 

[Mangoose]

what are the specs for custom portraits?

4GB RAM, x64 processor

 

[tuluse]

what are the specs for custom portraits?

256x256 JPG, PNG or TGA.

You guys need to add gif so some crazy fan will replace all the avatars with animated ones just like good old wasteland.

 

[DosBuster]

I fucking bet this game is going to be banned in australia