Which Codex classics are you unable to enjoy? - Codex topic of shame

[WhiteGuts]

How dare you have different tastes and opinions, faggots.

 

[Xorazm]

The lesson of this thread appears to be that when Pillars of Eternity and Tides of Numenera come out, no matter how good they are people are going to crawl out of the woodwork to shit all over them because the Codex is full of people who think that Baldur's Gate, Arcanum, Torment, Deus Ex, Mask of the Betrayer, Dark Souls etc. are all shitty games.

Not "I didn't get into them" or "they weren't for me." They were shitty games and apparently everyone but you has shitty taste.

If you can't make a forum happy with the best games of all time then you can't make them happy with a goddamned thing.

 

[Grunker]

It's old news that part of the rabid Fallout crowd are very butthurt about RTwP. In fact they often visit the PoE forum to kindly remind us of this fact.

 

[zwanzig_zwoelf]

I dropped Infinity Engine games after playing for about an hour or two (that includes Baldur's Gate, Baldur's Gate 2, Icewind Dale and Planescape: Torment).
Though they are pretty enjoyable, at some point my mind says 'Nope, not today', and I drop them.

 

[FeelTheRads]

You are butthurt that people don't have your taste,

You could've said that rather than making up cute little imaginary dialogues about me. At this point we should get a room.

But, butthurt butthurt, huh:

Arcanum, however, is the only game that I both a) do not enjoy and b) don't think deserves a spot as a Codex classic. We should view it as an incredibly interesting experiment that is completely broken and uninspiring to play.

What is this then? Not only you think a game you don't like doesn't belong between the "Codex classics" despite consistently scoring in the top games , but you also suggest how we should view it which implies you at least think you have some authority on what the "Codex classics". That's quite some self-importance there.

 

[Sykar]

Does Restricted Area count?

 

[ZagorTeNej]

Deus Ex? Whoever mentioned Deus Ex is an enormous faggot, yeah the combat sucks but hey you can avoid it and play stealthy. It has so many different approaches to the levels, it's impossible not to enjoy.

Deus Ex's gunplay gets too much flak, it's not that bad. I think it struck a nice balance between player and character skill, it has locational damage (not as good at it as SOF which came around the same time but then against most other FPS aren't either), nearly all weapons pack quite a punch (it's much better than HR in that regard) and once you max out a weapon skill and get some augs you can play it run and gun style which feels like a satisfying progression/character growth (important in an RPG) from the clunky start. Sure, the enemy AI could have been a lot better, game could have been more gory, gun sounds aren't the best etc. but considering it's not a dedicated shooter I'd say it was good enough.

 

[Norfleet]

I found that the "character skill" aspect was simply laughably bad in this regard: You had this highly trained special agent...who shoots worse than a 6 year old. I cannot say I remember at any point that anyone has ever picked up a gun and then proceeded to swirl it around in circles instead of pointing it at the target.

 

[zwanzig_zwoelf]

I found that the "character skill" aspect was simply laughably bad in this regard: You had this highly trained special agent...who shoots worse than a 6 year old. I cannot say I remember at any point that anyone has ever picked up a gun and then proceeded to swirl it around in circles instead of pointing it at the target.

IIRC it stops swirling after a few seconds if you stop moving your mouse.

 

[Ulminati]

Most blobbers bore me and I end up leaving them halfway through. The only blobbers I finished were Grimrock 1+2, Generation XTH and Lands of Lore.

 

[ZagorTeNej]

I found that the "character skill" aspect was simply laughably bad in this regard: You had this highly trained special agent...who shoots worse than a 6 year old. I cannot say I remember at any point that anyone has ever picked up a gun and then proceeded to swirl it around in circles instead of pointing it at the target.

Well it's an abstraction, this way increasing a weapon skill feels much more impactful rather than just increasing damage. What I mean by char vs player skill is that in Deus Ex even if you as a player have a mastery over FPS genre you can't show it off completely in the game until JC (the character) becomes a master in a given weapon skill.

 

[laclongquan]

The lesson of this thread appears to be that when Pillars of Eternity and Tides of Numenera come out, no matter how good they are people are going to crawl out of the woodwork to shit all over them because the Codex is full of people who think that Baldur's Gate, Arcanum, Torment, Deus Ex, Mask of the Betrayer, Dark Souls etc. are all shitty games.

Not "I didn't get into them" or "they weren't for me." They were shitty games and apparently everyone but you has shitty taste.

If you can't make a forum happy with the best games of all time then you can't make them happy with a goddamned thing.

Joined: Jan 22, 2015

Whose alt are you anyway? Because to make a blanket statement like that about Codex, and if you being a total new around here... What's the words? Ah, yeah, it's not your place to speak.

 

[Daedalos]

I've generally been fed up with the fantasy/medieval genre for a long time now, and can't really enjoy them.. at all. This has implications of the following games:

• Dragon Age series
• Morrowind
• Dark Souls
• D:OS (Tho the combat (and other things) was pretty awesome and what not)
• Wizardry series
• TToEE
• Icewind dale series
• the witcher series
• Age of Decadence
• Blackguards
• Ultima series
• Arcanum

Non fantasy/medieval games I've come to like, but hated at first:

• Underrail (Tho it aint even released yet)

 

[bloodlover]

I wonder how people would have answered if this thread would have been made in 2005. I think a very important aspect is the nostalgia factor,age and every single new game that you play (regardless of the genre). I think for most people it's a combination of factors not just one specific thing.

Imagine this thread being made in 2025 or 2030: "Oh no sir, I never liked FNV. And that Pillars shit, too much RTwP for my taste"

 

[J_C]

The lesson of this thread appears to be that when Pillars of Eternity and Tides of Numenera come out, no matter how good they are people are going to crawl out of the woodwork to shit all over them because the Codex is full of people who think that Baldur's Gate, Arcanum, Torment, Deus Ex, Mask of the Betrayer, Dark Souls etc. are all shitty games.

Not "I didn't get into them" or "they weren't for me." They were shitty games and apparently everyone but you has shitty taste.

If you can't make a forum happy with the best games of all time then you can't make them happy with a goddamned thing.

Joined: Jan 22, 2015

Whose alt are you anyway? Because to make a blanket statement like that about Codex, and if you being a total new around here... What's the words? Ah, yeah, it's not your place to speak.

But he is right you know.

 

[Akratus]

The Fallouts don't have terrible combat, but lacking full party control is in my opinion a sin for turn based games.

 

[Nutmeg]

J_C, Xorazm, laclongquan

You have to remember, not everyone on the RPG codex is an RPG fan. For example, I'm not very interested in RPGs at all. Instead, the reason I am here is because I can find other people who, like myself, are willing to overlook a game's age and lack of concessions to impatient players, in order to unearth and enjoy interesting game systems. My favorite genre happens to be strategy.

That being said, as the RPG Codex slowly completes it's transformation from a motley community of gamers into a marketing platform for games similar to games I never particularly cared about, I am becoming alienated.

Oh, and I've been here a lot longer than the join date suggests.

 

[torpid]

The lesson of this thread appears to be that when Pillars of Eternity and Tides of Numenera come out, no matter how good they are people are going to crawl out of the woodwork to shit all over them because the Codex is full of people who think that Baldur's Gate, Arcanum, Torment, Deus Ex, Mask of the Betrayer, Dark Souls etc. are all shitty games.

Not "I didn't get into them" or "they weren't for me." They were shitty games and apparently everyone but you has shitty taste.

If you can't make a forum happy with the best games of all time then you can't make them happy with a goddamned thing.

Joined: Jan 22, 2015

Whose alt are you anyway? Because to make a blanket statement like that about Codex, and if you being a total new around here... What's the words? Ah, yeah, it's not your place to speak.

But he is right you know.

He isn't; he's committing the classic internet forum fallacy of adding up different posters' opinions and then declaring "the 'Codex' hates everything." Different people dislike different things. For instance, I said I didn't like Arcanum. Some other dude said Baldur's Gate, then a third dude mentions Fallout. But that doesn't mean you can go Arcanum+BG+Fallout, the "Codex" hates all 3!!1!

Plus he's hypocritically complaining about posters making absolute statements from personal preferences, while declaring outright that all of his favorite games are the best of all time. Seems to me it's just a case of:



I'm also surprised at posters--at least posters with older join dates--being shocked or even outraged by this thread. There's never been a consensus about most of these games. Arcanum has always been contentious; the BG series using RTwP has always grated on some; PS:T's CYOA-style just doesn't do it for others. And NWN2's camera, trololololo. I don't think there ever was a grand hardcore era where all Codexers unanimously fapped to the same games.

 

[Nutmeg]

Does anyone, anyone at all on the whole of RPG codex, dislike Pools of radiance?

I love that game.

 

[jcd]

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[Xorazm]

The lesson of this thread appears to be that when Pillars of Eternity and Tides of Numenera come out, no matter how good they are people are going to crawl out of the woodwork to shit all over them because the Codex is full of people who think that Baldur's Gate, Arcanum, Torment, Deus Ex, Mask of the Betrayer, Dark Souls etc. are all shitty games.

Not "I didn't get into them" or "they weren't for me." They were shitty games and apparently everyone but you has shitty taste.

If you can't make a forum happy with the best games of all time then you can't make them happy with a goddamned thing.

Joined: Jan 22, 2015

Whose alt are you anyway? Because to make a blanket statement like that about Codex, and if you being a total new around here... What's the words? Ah, yeah, it's not your place to speak.

But he is right you know.

He isn't; he's committing the classic internet forum fallacy of adding up different posters' opinions and then declaring "the 'Codex' hates everything." Different people dislike different things. For instance, I said I didn't like Arcanum. Some other dude said Baldur's Gate, then a third dude mentions Fallout. But that doesn't mean you can go Arcanum+BG+Fallout, the "Codex" hates all 3!!1!

Plus he's hypocritically complaining about posters making absolute statements from personal preferences, while declaring outright that all of his favorite games are the best of all time. Seems to me it's just a case of:

What? No - that's not only self-evidently absurd, it has nothing to do with the point I was making. I didn't think it would be so troublesome to understand but let me spell it out in a bit more detail.

Nobody in their right minds expects PoE or ToN to be all time top 20 classics. However, one could take this thread as reasonable evidence that there is a sizeable minority within this forum which can't stand a lot of the top 20 classics. Therefore, it stands to reason that even if PoE and ToN surpass all reasonable expectation and hit top 20 quality, there will still be a sizeable minority of people on this forum who you can expect to be very vocal in their dislike. In other words, even a stone cold classic won't quite be good enough.

Imagine you take a poll of a room full of movie critics and find that a sizeable minority dislike 2001 or Dr. Strangelove. Now suddenly, much to everyone's surprise, a never before seen Stanley Kubrick movie has been found. I would think that it would therefore stand to reason that, even if that movie is of 2001 or Dr. Strangelove quality, a sizeable minority of those critics won't like it.

There are tons of people with way more experience on this forum than me, sure, but surely the logic stands on its own, no?

Thinking about it more, I suppose there's a bit of wiggle room in the term "sizeable minority," regarding how representative this thread really is, but I'm just going off the horrified reactions of the greybeards showing up that the population sample showing up here must mean something.

 

[J_C]

The lesson of this thread appears to be that when Pillars of Eternity and Tides of Numenera come out, no matter how good they are people are going to crawl out of the woodwork to shit all over them because the Codex is full of people who think that Baldur's Gate, Arcanum, Torment, Deus Ex, Mask of the Betrayer, Dark Souls etc. are all shitty games.

Not "I didn't get into them" or "they weren't for me." They were shitty games and apparently everyone but you has shitty taste.

If you can't make a forum happy with the best games of all time then you can't make them happy with a goddamned thing.

Joined: Jan 22, 2015

Whose alt are you anyway? Because to make a blanket statement like that about Codex, and if you being a total new around here... What's the words? Ah, yeah, it's not your place to speak.

But he is right you know.

He isn't; he's committing the classic internet forum fallacy of adding up different posters' opinions and then declaring "the 'Codex' hates everything." Different people dislike different things. For instance, I said I didn't like Arcanum. Some other dude said Baldur's Gate, then a third dude mentions Fallout. But that doesn't mean you can go Arcanum+BG+Fallout, the "Codex" hates all 3!!1!

Plus he's hypocritically complaining about posters making absolute statements from personal preferences, while declaring outright that all of his favorite games are the best of all time. Seems to me it's just a case of:



I'm also surprised at posters--at least posters with older join dates--being shocked or even outraged by this thread. There's never been a consensus about most of these games. Arcanum has always been contentious; the BG series using RTwP has always grated on some; PS:T's CYOA-style just doesn't do it for others. And NWN2's camera, trololololo. I don't think there ever was a grand hardcore era where all Codexers unanimously fapped to the same games.

Obviously not everybody on the Codex will hate PoE, but looking at the number of whining posts in the beta thread, I assume there will be a massive hate towards the game when it comes out. Although I'm pretty sure that most complainers will play it, enjoy it for a degree and then they will come here and shit all over it.

 

[torpid]

What? No - that's not only self-evidently absurd, it has nothing to do with the point I was making. I didn't think it would be so troublesome to understand but let me spell it out in a bit more detail.

You said: "If you can't make a forum happy with the best games of all time then you can't make them happy with a goddamned thing," which is basically saying "the Codex hates everything." Unless your "sizeable minority" = "the forum", but that's still going from specific posters with specific likes/dislikes to the "Codex".

Nobody in their right minds expects PoE or ToN to be all time top 20 classics. However, one could take this thread as reasonable evidence that there is a sizeable minority within this forum which can't stand a lot of the top 20 classics. Therefore, it stands to reason that even if PoE and ToN surpass all reasonable expectation and hit top 20 quality, there will still be a sizeable minority of people on this forum who you can expect to be very vocal in their dislike. In other words, even a stone cold classic won't quite be good enough.

Imagine you take a poll of a room full of movie critics and find that a sizeable minority dislike 2001 or Dr. Strangelove. Now suddenly, much to everyone's surprise, a never before seen Stanley Kubrick movie has been found. I would think that it would therefore stand to reason that, even if that movie is of 2001 or Dr. Strangelove quality, a sizeable minority of those critics won't like it.

There are tons of people with way more experience on this forum than me, sure, but surely the logic stands on its own, no?

I don't really see the point you're making though? At least in relation to ""If you can't make a forum happy with the best games of all time then you can't make them happy with a goddamned thing." Which is logically flawed: just because someone doesn't like one of the "greatest games of all time" doesn't mean they can't enjoy another game. And someone who does like the "greatest games of all time" might very well dislike one of these new games. And that's terrible because, what? Anything less than unanimity means that no one is "happy with a goddamned thing"? That's why I diagnosed butthurt--your post is just random discontent because some people dislike some things.

The other flaw in your logic is that you seem to think there is a fixed, objective quality to games. Without getting into objectivity/subjectivity debates, the quality of "greatest of all time" when it comes to games or movies is ultimately based on popularity, whether it's popularity with the greater public, with critics, or with whatever specific demographic. This is independent of whether you think there is a deeper, objective component to it. So when you say that a newly discovered movie would be "of 2001 or Dr. Strangelove quality," how exactly is that determination being made? Perhaps the person who didn't like 2001 or Strangelove will actually love this new movie? While on the other hand the 90% of critics who heralded 2001 as the greatest movie of all time might decide that this new movie is in fact not of 2001 or Strangelove quality? What then? Who is objectively right?

Thinking about it more, I suppose there's a bit of wiggle room in the term "sizeable minority," regarding how representative this thread really is, but I'm just going off the horrified reactions of the greybeards showing up that the population sample showing up here must mean something.

Greybeards are overrated. Anyway, the Codex in general was a lot more C&Cfaggy and "role-playing" focused back in the day (and I mean mid '00s, when I started lurking)--that was seen as the true progress and evolution of RPGs. Someone like VD comes from that era, which is why he worships Arcanum. Combatfaggotry is much more ascendant nowadays, probably because of the realization that you can have (typically mild) C&C and storyfaggotry with all the actual RPG mechanics stripped out (e.g., Mass Effect 2, an action game where the "RPG" part equals choose a few outcomes and romance party members). But again, who decides which view is right? Which preference is objectively better? It all comes down to popularity contests and trends.

Edit: so, while I can understand wanting to fit in a forum you just joined, don't just take your cues from the "greybeards" with the idea that they possess a truer knowledge, or that they guard some true Codexian essence that never existed.

 

[Lurker King]

Just go to the Steam hours played screenshot thread, it will perk you right up.

Almost everyone poses hard on this site, but they are full of shit. They aren't going back to replay Dungeon Master or Wizardry 7, they're playing Dota 2.

Edit: Ah, here you go, just look at these popamole faggots (of which I am one)

The Codex is a battlefield composed of many factions, being the main ones the house of storyfags and the house of combatfags. Some players have free pass between both fiefs, but most players are in war. In fact, there is also internal conflicts inside each faction (“Game X has god combat!”, “No, that combat sucks!”). Players in the combatfag faction are more prone for popamolism for obvious reasons. The idea that all codexians are brave warriors fighting together against the decline is a myth that we told ourselves when we are all united bitching about the last triple-A game. That makes us to feel good about ourselves, but it is a lie. Only a few people really make a difference. I’m talking about Felipepepe and his cRPG-book project, Styg with Underrail, VD with Age of Decadence and his classic reviews, members of the staff like Infinitron and others that keep the Codex hive alive with interesting news and reminding us of his gigantic memory with pieces of lore, some reviewers who do solid analysis of games, etc. But most of the stuff posted on the forums are funny jokes, memes, swearing, ridiculing, pissing contents, politics (racism, SJW, gamersgate and shit), gossip about developers, stalking information about developers, and some occasional attempts to provide insights that will be probably lost in all that noise.

 

[Lurker King]

I try to give every game the benefit of doubt, but I simply can't play stuff like Might&Magic, Wizardry etc. despite my best efforts. I simply dislike blobber or first person gameplay in RPGs. And the only Isometric game I didn't finish was Arcanum. I actually like it, the music, the atmosphere, world building, quests etc. I can even stomach the combat up to a point. But at some point in the story it simply bores me. :<

Unrealistic expectations about a game that is praised too much only leads to disappointment, especially if the people who praised the game have different preferences and tastes or the game has rough edges. Worse than that, sometimes all that praise induce players to skepticism “No game is that good. I will play this just to debunk this bullshit”.