Wolfenstein II: The New Colossus - set in Nazi occupied America

[Wirdschowerdn]

1) Why are game designers so hollow in personality and only talk in cliches?

2) Why is everyone talking in a German accent about how bad Nazis are? Am I missing a joke?

They are Swedes.

 

[Alienman]

That video kinda makes the devs seem psychopathic, even if they are talking about nazis. Especially the guy with glasses.

 

[fantadomat]

I am hoping that the next Wolfenstein is in the present days,playing as a cryogenically frozen SS captain trying to restore the Aryan race and glorious reich while mowing down waves of liberal pissbuckets.This will be better than this repetitive thingy.

 

[Major_Blackhart]

The gameplay looks like it hasn't been improved upon one iota.

 

[Maggot]

I tried replaying TNO and got bored out of my mind about halfway through nevermind.

 

[Wirdschowerdn]

The gameplay of Doom 2 looks like it hasn't been improved upon Doom one iota.

 

[Major_Blackhart]

Hey, that was Doom 2 and Doom, and Doom 2 was still fucking awesome and NOT boring.
They have enough technology and know how to actually put good parameters on enemies in this game.
Obviously they chose not to for some reason.

 

[Wirdschowerdn]

What for? It's more Wolfenstein with better graphics and punchier physics. Sounds good to be, or do you expect them making an RPGee Deus Ex type borefest?

 

[Major_Blackhart]

No, I don't expect that. I would hope better actions from enemies.

 

[Wirdschowerdn]

No, I don't expect that. I would hope better actions from enemies.

We have barely seen any proper gameplay, so anything can happen. That being said, Nazis are supposed to be cannon fodder so don't get your hopes up.

 

[Don Peste]

do you expect them making an RPGee Deus Ex type borefest?

Wolfenstein was a very refreshing FPS-RPG hybrid, with skills, C&C and different gameplay options:

 

[Wirdschowerdn]

At its core though it was still a run-of-the-mill old-skool FPS.

 

[Ash]

Sounds like you've never played any old school FPS. They were not about cinematic setpieces and linear level design. They were open, use your head and your skills to progress pure unadulterated gameplay. That's not to say they can't have plot or cinematics. RTCW did, being of the early 2000s and not true old school 90s, but it was just the right amount.
Anyhow, the most important thing here is level design, which makes or breaks any game. W:TNO was very linear.

 

[Wirdschowerdn]

Yeah, it's a run-of-the-mill FPS because AI kills you on sight, and vice versa, you kill them on sight. That's different from the newer, more nuanced FPS/RPG hybrids like Deus Ex or Dishonored where there are different AI flags, friendly vs. enemy zones, where you can infilitrate, use stealth, where you can use non-lethal tools to overcome situations etc. nuWolf has some of that too, but it's just nominally slapped on and not a core design philosophy. It's just a well-executed linear FPS with tons of cutscenes thrown in.

 

[DeepOcean]

Depends of what you mean by old school shooters, if by old school shooters, you mean the build games and the Doom clones, nope, you are completely wrong but if your frame of reference is something like Return to Castle wolfenstein, Medal of Honor and Half Life or other linear "cinematic" run and gun shooters, it isn't a completely wrong comparison. However, something like the New Order has alot more scripted cutscenes and popamole sections than any of those games had.

 

[Major_Blackhart]

How many hours of gameplay was the New Order?

 

[Durandal]

I should mention again that TNO did have some truly engaging encounters. With an emphasis on SOME, since a good director would have placed a larger focus on the good parts instead of messing the pacing up with stretches of nothing, cinematic moments, and talky bits. Though the better levels can't do much against hitscan crap out of the ass coupled with mediocre movement speed. At least the newer enemies and the possibility to use the Jewsuit look promising.

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[Wirdschowerdn]

I came into contact with FPS gaming first by playing Unreal, Half-Life 1, AvP, NOLF, UT99, Quake 3 etc. I already briefly played Doom, Quake 2 and Terminal Verlocity before but those never appealed to me, and even less so after I played Unreal and HL1.

That being said, nuWolf is very much in the same vein as HL to me, ergo run-of-the-mill FPS by my definition.

Never cared much about Medal of Honor, CoD etc as those were dumbed down console shooters made for lobotomized people. Neither do I like DOOM4 as I think it's a lazy piece of shit resting on the laurels of the classic Doom games.

 

[Don Peste]

How many hours of gameplay was the New Order?

Wolfenstein: The New Order - 12 Hours
Wolfenstein: The Old Blood - 6 Hours

 

[Major_Blackhart]

That's it?

 

[Mazisky]

The new order was the last Fps i enjoyed so much, more than Prey, Doom or any other in the last 4 years.

The storytelling was excellent, so the gameplay, really looking for this

 

[orcinator]

That's it?

It's a modern cinematic shooter, surprising they even made it to double digits, though there is a fair bit of padding.

 

[fantadomat]

Well wolfy could be good game but i am tired of all the WW2 games.I have played maybe 20-30 ww2 games and killing nazi became annoying as fuck.Bad company was refreshing because it have a nazi campaign.Also wolfenstein is not an old school even return to castle wolfenstein is not an old school.One of the main characteristics about old school is that enemy have a visible projectile weapons that you could avoid if you have the skills.The game is not a bad game it is ok,it is a jewish wet dream.

 

[Ezekiel]

The main character died in the last one. He asked that a nuclear weapon be fired on his position, if I remember correctly. Why should I give a damn about his fate if he can get out of anything? They should have replaced him.

And, ANOTHER smug middle-aged Nazi woman with a scarred face? Really?

Seems uninspired.

 

[Ivan]

I don't really get the enthusiasm for older FPS' reliance on "keys" to peel their levels. It was just backtracking. Sure you had to remember where the hell that yellow door was, but there were no new obstacles or puzzles to prevent you accessing it. And while I would agree that corridor shooters are trash, but I think the more straightforward level design of Blood or Shadow Warrior was for the better than Doom's. i.e. Blood and Shadow Warrior's more straightforward levels didn't take the foot off the fun pedal as much as Doom did, particularly the labyrinthine, acclaimed mod levels.