Let's see Gaddafi conquer Earth in Modern Day Scenario 2 1.6

Imperialism? More like failperialism.

anus_pounder said:

Its glorious!

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Magnificient

Push the Imperialists out of East Africa!

Again, Gaddafu Akbar music





The first chapters of Star Mujahideen will soon enter in operation to bring the Light of Islam to the darkness, and to fight against the Great Satan.



Khartoum, a critical position because of its importance in launching an offensive against Malakal, is besieged by the infidels, but once again they launch less than what would be a reasonable number of attacking forces to even stand a chance of winning.





Shortly after, Malakal is finally freed from imperialism! The next push will purge the imperialists out of East Africa!

GADDAFU AKBAR!



Soon after the victory over Malakal, others parts of the front will also be driven forward, and the Kwanzanians will be pushed more and over within the hostile depths of African jungles, to hopefully be eaten by the lions.



Of course, although the Invincible Colonel Neo-Babylonian forces are winning, there is a harsh price to pay for this brutal war. 5. Jihadzkrieg even lost an entire armored division in battle, and would for now stay behind to get reinforcements, unless their contribution was to become utterly critical for a coming battle. The man who died to free Africa won't ever be forgotten.





The dispute for Malakal continues, but the Bro of Bros gains the upper hand!



Most times!





Meanwhile, the mandatory riling up of the already burning Kwanzania happens.



Another great battle ensues over Khartoum, but once again, the courage and determination of the glorious Neo-Babylonian army pays off.



And in wake of another victory, the push carries on over Jima, which will soon be freed from imperialism, and pave the way for the liberation of Malakal and for encircling some enemies over Gambela.



They try to stop it, but now it is too late for them.



Everything is set up for another major encirclement, and significant push. Sooner or later all shore accesses of the Kwans in Africa will be cutted off, and then they will be utterly defeated.




GADDAFU AKBAR!



A textbook operation, ensuing even greater losses for the Great Satan as five of their divisions will be permanently gone, one way or another.





AFTER THIS THEY'LL NEVER DARE TO STEP OVER AFRICA AGAIN!



Technology has evolved to a point where now it is possible to dedicate research for the creation of a proper navy, for one day, the Light of Islam shall cross the Atlantic and reach the very heart of the Great Satan: Amerikwa.



The Neo-Babylonian armies knew that, if they arrived at Entebbe quickly enough, they'd also overrun and encircle dozens of Kwanzanian divisions, but exhausted, there was little they could do until more forces came to the front.



Knowing their end draws near, the Amerikwans launched a counter-offensive to retake Malakal, and poorly organized and weakened, the airmobile brigades were hardly pressed, and with small chances of victory.



Thus immediately, a flanking offensive is launched against Marsabit while the Islamarines hold Malakal bravely. This could be the moment, the moment the Great Satan will be flushed out of Africa for good. Or another setback.







THE EMPEROR OF EMPERORS PROTECTS!



And this great victory may propel the liberation of Marsabit, to make everything better.



Or maybe not.



For while the battle of Marsabit was won, the Neo-Babylonian forces were too exhausted to hold it. Nevertheless, now there was a certainty, that in a few months, victory would ensue.



THE FINAL PUSH AGAINST IMPERIALISM IS COMING SOON! THE PIMP OF PIMPS PREVAILS!

Drive them into the sea from whence they came.

Soon the Imperial Neo-Babylonian navy shall rule the seas

At last, the King of Kings shall free Africa from Imperialism! And then a decision will have to be voted for!



Although the first defenders couldn't hold it, reinforcements secured Marsabit for once and all, and now, the final push draws near through Congo.



Another struggle carries on over Entebbe, where hopefully many Kwans shall meet their end as capable divisions. However, it is a tough one, and the retreating foes may have to be engaged and pushed deeper into Africa after all.



Victory ensues over El-Obeid, where more of the Great Satan legions are permanently put out.



GADDAFU AKBAR!





I think this image sums it up perfectly the effectiveness of the contribution of the Argentinian lapdogs to imperialism in Africa...





The struggle for Entebbe continues, only this time, perhaps a decisive flanking attack may settle it definitively and ensue victory of Neo-Babylonia against Amerikwa. It becomes one of the greatest and toughest battles ever, with the imperialists having the upper hand by its start.



But bravely, the armies of the Pimp of Pimps hold out as the attackers are weathered out, and launch a desperate, almost suicidal assault against Entebbe, where even against such determined foe, the brave Islamarines and Jihadzkrieg units hold their ground successfully, and eventually, the armors begin to drive them back.





Countless Kwan divisions will be forced to surrender! GADDAFU AKBAR!





The ultimate Air Superiority Fighter of Neo-Babylonia, named in homage to a great hero, is developed, and now, the future creation of a mighty air cavalry shall bring the Light of Islam even further through the world, supporting tanks and mechanized infantry towards victory!



With recent great victories, now very soon, the glorious Neo-Babylonian Army will push the bulk of the Great Satan legions out of Africa and force them to surrender or throw themselves from a cliff towards the sea! And then they shall never again step with their imperialistic boots of tyranny upon Africa!



Futilely, they try to push back, but now their fate has been sealed, as soon as the glorious Neo-Babylonian forces are fully reinforced and reorganized, their doom shall come. However, they turn out too much for the currently available ground forces, and considering the threat their beachhead represents, thus, under closed doors, the Emperor of Emperors of Mankind considers the possible necessity of drastic measures.



To declare EXTERMINATUS upon Mombasa, is this possibility, and although the GJ-2 Djinn bombers will have to be fully organized to accomplish such a dread and grim mission, they may very well be ordered to do so. May the Emperor of Emperors justice balance upon all. If it comes to worst, the collateral damage can always be blamed upon the inanity and the Djinn.







For now, there are other uses for these bombers, and thus one of the wings is given the order to provide air support through interdiction strikes instead, while a minority of remaining Kwanzanian forces try to stop the liberation of Congo and South African territories.



The battle for Kindu-Port-whatever was lost, but no big deal, the enemy was doomed, and soon the last shore access would be cutted off from them, damning any of their forces not pocketed in Mombasa to die of starvation and run out of supplies.



A very inane war between two countries that have no navy because they can't afford one. Why should it matter? Because this war was an unintended consequence of the King of Kings actions when promoting fifth columns over that continent, and thus worthy of at least a footnote in spite of its insignificance.







Gaddafi's Hammer becomes the first operational Star Mujahideen chapter. Although being equally just brigades instead of divisions, they will be far more competent than currently operating airmobile brigades, less vulnerable because of powered exoskeletons and faster than them thanks to their own strategic transport helicopters, to make things better. For now they prepare for battle, but most likely they won't have to participate of the war for Africa.



For in the end, a measure as drastic as EXTERMINATUS was too much and unfair to the people of Africa. Best to save those nukes for the Ultimate DOOM Expansion Set for Kwanzania, after all. Thus in a conventional, massive battle, Mombasa is disputed. The battle lasts a lot, in spite of the Neo-Babylonian numerical superiority, and many died in this final move to eliminate the last real threat of the enemy within Africa.





And thus the Great Satan legions that refused to surrender were driven into the sea! The final liberation of Africa is very, very, very near!



GADDAFU AKBAR!



A noticeable problem in the lack of sufficient aerial infrastructure over the majority of Africa is corrected, allowing the bombers to regain organization much faster, for time will be of essence in the future, even if the war for Africa seems won.



The remnants of the imperialist forces fight desperatedly, aware that their defeat draws near. Yet, even against an HQ, they shall perish.





These were the last imperialist forces in Africa! Now all left to do is to recover control over the remaining provinces!

GADDAFU AKBAR!



It can be said the Battle for Africa is already won, now all left to do is to formalize it. And perhaps this was a far greater blow to the Great Satan than thought, for paradoxically, insurgency was never a problem for the imperialists in Africa, and thus they missed one thing that was saving their fascist government from being overthrown and their nation from falling apart in a feast of ITZ.



For Kwanzania burns and the government lost control over most of the country's economy, which spirals towards an eternal recession, and independent businessman making their own plans for survival, which include of course, to refuse paying taxes and sometimes actively support the rebels against fascism. The United States is on the verge of collapse. In fact, the only possible reason they still can afford supplies to their legions is by importing military supplies from other countries, which in turn means that the creation of a mighty attack submarine fleet may be the answer to bring the Light of Islam to Washington in the future.





October, 20th, 2034. In spite of his ever frail health, the Emperor of Emperors personally comes to Johannesburg to congratulate all for this great feat, while now many roads are open. Istanbul provides access to Europe, where most countries are involved in a perpetual war with Russia. Africa remains disunited and corrupted by the rules of machete rape gangs. Iran is a backwards and reactionary State that in spite of sharing a common enemy, utterly despises the planned socialist economy and ideology of Neo-Babylonia and its secularized government that provides far greater personal freedoms than what is expected from anywhere in the Middle East, while also complaining Neo-Babylonia is too "democratic", and thus cannot be considered an ally, but a threat, with a massive army that far outnumbers Neo-Babylonia, but on the other hand, is totally obsolete.

Thus, a question remains, which would be the next step for the glorious legacy of the Emperor of Emperors of Mankind, Muammar Al-Gaddafi?

1) Bring the Light of Islam to Europe;

2) Unify the entirety of Africa, including the few holdings of Spain.

3) Make Iran join The Socialist Union of Neo-Babylonia by force.

Now I'll hopefully get more replies than usual

I'd say 3 followed by 1

3) then 1).

2 sounds appealing, surely you can use the Machete Rape gangs in your forces.

3) followed by 2)

I think that doing 2 would be pretty suicidal due to TC overload.

I vote for 3 followed by 1!

2 means no bottlenecks in defence against enemy amphibious attacks so this or take on Iran - this should make things interesting ...

jonnypolen said:

I vote for 3 followed by 1!

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Well, well.

Iran, last I checked, had according to Intelligence about 160 infantry "divisions" and 40 armored "divisions", while Neo-Babylonia has only around 35 mobile "divisions" and 30 garrissons. This is definitively going to be interesting. As for the other most voted option, transforming UK and all of Europe into a Caliphate, well, that will be several updates away for now.



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Iran will known socialism and freedom through the King of Kings!

Song



There was one currently worrissome threat to the future goals of Neo-Babylonia. By spousing the cause of socialism and embracing a secularized government, Neo-Babylonia has lost their sympathy from Iran, and made a potential new enemy out of them. Now that Kwanzania is in tatters, and sooner or later so shall be the United Kingdom, Iran may no longer let Neo-Babylonia expand. Also, as of 2034, Iran could be considered a Great Power, with enough industrial might to back a massive military force, and with the largest Air Force of the entire world, for the Great Satan Air Force was totally obliterated because every air base in Kwanzania had already been occupied by guerrillas, and thus had all aircrafts in them sabotaged



Nobody would understand at first, the decision of leaving Africa entirely undefended, but the Pimp of Pimps was no fool. The crushing victory over Africa was not the fact the imperialists lost control over it, but the fact almost a quarter of a hundred divisions were permanently defeated through the war. The crippling losses the enemy has suffered won't be replaced at all now that, thanks to the Fifth Column, the ability of using industries for military endeavors has become near zero for Amerikwa, and soon will be for the UK, where both Muslim immigrants and Scottish nationalists already threaten an open civil war.

But, while the ground forces were to abandon Africa as to focus everything in a new goal, the small Air Force, composed by the mighty Djinn stealth bombers and soon by the Idi Amin stealth fighters, was sent to, through the use of logistical strikes, delay any possible advance as much as possible should the legions return. In any case, the relatively fast conquest of Iran would be critical to answer to the possibly inevitable second wave of imperialism and encircle and destroy even more divisions.



To expand the still small Neo-Babylonian Air Force, a batch of four wings of GM-17 Idi Amin air superiority fighters is ordered while the strategic redeployments carry on, of near every division of Neo-Babylonia, for, to hold the front, garrissons will also, like during the liberation of Saudi Arabia, play a decisive role in the coming war.



Research to create a Navy in the coming years carry on

While I fixed a ridiculous error in the tech tree that blocked better missiles to be researched. Why is this supposedly a far more downloaded mod than Kaiserreich or Fallout Doomsday?





Don't cry for me Argentina
The truth is I never left you
All through my wild days
My mad existence
I kept my promise
Don't keep your distance



Lapdog and master arrive in the shores of Morocco, but soon the lapdogs of imperialism and losers of the Falkland Wars will be given their rightful treatment for being pussies and bowing down to the imperialist.





Thus an entire division of Argentinian lapdogs is wiped out from the skies by Heavenly Justice of Allah! Perhaps now they'll learn. Unfortunately, with the fact proven that, against enemies that have access to modern radar technologies instead of Third World shitholes, stealth isn't as awesome, it does not guarantee casualty-free runs, and the bombers suffer considerable casualties. The crews that died fighting against imperialism won't be forgotten.





The already shitty infrastructure in Africa is blown to tatters by continual logistical strikes, slowing down the enemy advance as much as possible. They might end taking years to get through, fortunately, and with horrible guerrilla problems back home, their transport capacity is overloaded, to help with it even further, and more fifth columns will be soon funded to help bringing the Light of Islam to London.





IRA is ressurected thanks to lots of money Gaddafi is giving to fund their struggle, and as things are going, Northern Ireland might end in the hands of their rightful owners, while Britain will become a Caliphate very soon.

GADDAFU AKBAR!



By December 25th, everything is ready for the coming liberation. The first moves according to the plan are simple. Everything will be focused on the region just south of Tabriz, featured by tank-friendly plains, where a massed breakthrough by the entire offensive-capable units of the Neo-Babylonian army will be launched. Should it succeed, from it then Hamadan and Rasht will be the goals, encircling Tabriz and wiping out a large part of their military, which hopefully will be incredibly outdated in technology, compensating for their numerical superiority, while the garrissons will attempt to hold their ground. Through Airmobile forces and the First division of Star Mujahideens: Gaddafi's Hammer, it is hoped to outrun countless retreating soldiers of Iran together with the encirclement of Tabriz. Provided the plan works, of course, it should lead to a very rapid, sort of modern blitzkrieg victory.

Before any questions, Dair as Zawr is a relatively worthless province, and while occupied by partisans its hit to TC won't be counted*, so why bother?

*Consequence of using fund partisans against it before.



Everything is ready. 69 divisions against more than 200 enemy divisions. It will be another very challenging war, but their cause is just, and the unification of the arab world may ensue that never again such divisions will happen in the future.

Also the number 69 is a fucking badass number. Don't ask me why.





Once again Iran gets in a great war, only this time, the aren't fighting a lapdog of the Great Satan, and this time, they shall not survive it, for a far more advanced, well-trained and elan-filled force will conquer Iran! Shortly after the declaration of war, great and courageous men fight to defend Basrah and Kars from enemy incursions, while severely outnumbered by their legions. May victory shine even against such odds, for if they lose, they won't be able to retreat.







The bulk of the Iranian Air Force is launched to attempt stopping the offensive, as a frenetic engagement between mobile anti-air vehicles and bombers begin. The battle is fierce, but in the end, although many die, the massed airstrikes prove inefficient and fail to stop the mighty schwerpunkt of the Neo-Babylonian Army.

Note: while in the previous version of Modern Day Scenario 2 the Air Force was ridiculously overpowered, in this one it was ridiculously nerfed and underpowered except against shitty and obsolete divisions or tanks in small numbers.







The massed air strikes don't stop this great victory!

GADDAFU AKBAR!



Unfortunately, while the most important of all battles ended successful, the defenders of Kars fought to the last but couldn't hold it, being just 6 brigades against 15 entire divisions, and thus nearly outnumbered at 15:1. But their heroism won't be forgotten.



For their sake, this war shall be won, and after it, more dozens of imperialist divisions shall be encircled and crushed until the entire armies of the imperialists are utterly destroyed!



However, the future of this war continued undefined, and in Basrah, almost outnumbered at 13:1 while being constanted bombard by massed legions of aircrafts, could the defenders achieve a miraculous victory and thus help Neo-Babylonia in delivering a crushing blow against Iran?

The future was uncertain, but no matter the cost:



THE WISDOM OF THE EMPEROR OF EMPERORS SHALL GUIDE NEO-BABYLONIA TO VICTORY AGAINST FAR NUMERICALLY SUPERIOR FOES!

Wow... If anyone can pull this off, it's the pimp of pimps!

Iran must be brought back onto the one true path.

No plan survives first contact with the enemy, but victory does through the hands of the Pimp of Pimps!



Bakhtaran has been secured and countless Iranian divisions may end surrounded and forced to surrender thanks to the superior mobility and speed of Neo-Babylonian forces!



GADDAFU AKBAR!



Meanwhile, the Great Satan lapdog legions continue to advance, but they are considerably slowed down by the Fifth Column and by logistical strikes.





In an attempt to prevent the mass encirclement and defeat of almost a hundred of Iranian divisions, they try to hold Hamadan against the might of Jihadzkrieg and of the now proven Star Mujahideen, but in the end, once again the technological superiority pays off against a numerically superior force at the strategic level, which conveniently is also much slower.



Even against massive legions, in a mountainous terrain that greatly favors the defenders, the glorious Star Mujahideen don't waver, and slowly drive them back to get even closer to a total encirclement of Tabriz!



GADDAFU AKBAR!



As soon as Hamadan is secured, the final, riskier step to fulfill this phase one of the war is taken. If Rasht falls, the Pimp of Pimps may proclaim victory over Iran, and this will be a very quick war. If it doesn't, however, things may yet become more complicated.



For now, thanks to superior strategies, the Islamarines and Star Mujahideen prevail even against armored divisions.

And of course:

GADDAFU AKBAR!





Scottish rebels declare independence from UK, lapdog of Kwanzanian imperialism! Thanks to the generous funding they got from Gaddafi, in a short time, Glasgow falls in their hands, while Republican rebels seize Porthsmouth demanding the renounce of the Royal Family and the end of the futile war in service of Amerikwa. Soon the Caliphate shall put order in Britain, supported by the Fifth Column!





After many days of battle, even with thousands of bombers, legions of a far better equipped divisions that way outnumbered them, the brave Garrissons defending Basrah prevailed, in the most heroic battle of this war, a battle that will be forever remembered in History where many great heroes were made!

GADDAFU AKBAR!





More ground is secured, and although the counter-offensive in Esfahan is fierce, convenient flanking attacks ensue it won't fall, even another encirclement may succeed very soon. It is all a matter of time now.



For Balbosar is also secured, and if both ab-whatever and Tabriz forces are pocketed, it will be a devastating victory that may lead to a rapid victory through the rest of Iran!



Meanwhile, for the future plans of seizing Gibraltar, research into the most advanced paratrooper forces possible begin. The heathens shall lose everything one day!



However, when Neo-Babylonia was on the eve of a great victory, reinforcements arrived just in time in Rasht to put up a fight that seemed unwinnable. As a last resort, four wings of Djinn bombers were ordered to provide interdiction strikes against the defenders, to hopefully turn the table.



Only two wings survived as the battle was over.



Now things could get far more complicated, but victory is of essence, and won't be given up! On another hand, Tabriz forces head to Kars, foolishly making themselves ripe for being encircled.



It wasn't as devastating, but a great victory ensued over Kars, that caused countless casualties for the enemy!



GADDAFU AKBAR!

Unfortunately, Esfahan was lost as was failed the attempt to create another pocket, and in face of the organization and strength losses of Neo-Babylonian forces,



A brutal assault was launched against Hamadan. Losing it would be a great setback for the plans, and thus every possible flanking attack is made to support those weary defenders, battered after the failed offensive in Rasht. Much will be decided now. Neo-Babylonia must prevail!





HAMADAN IS SECURED AND RASHT IS WON! NOBODY CAN STOP THE INVINCIBLE COLONEL AND BRO OF BROS!

Iran is a lapdog of the imperialists in disguise, the lapdogs must be ousted and a true bro of bros government must be implemented.

This is the good kind of crazy.

You bastards! You made me start a nearly suicidal war in this game, and I'm not going to pull another trick should things turn out towards ultimate defeat, but just end this thread.



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Iran is the new Verdun



Although some territorial gains have been made, the situation was precarious nevertheless, for many divisions were very close from being totally destroyed by casualties, and thus, now, the best bet for Neo-Babylonia was to wait and hold the front for countless months while reinforcements of lost equipment came in at the usual sluggish rate. Meanwhile, isolated pockets are rapidly dealt with.





And the Fifth Column carries on while Britain erupts into Chaos, as deserving for a lapdog of the Great Satan. Nobody ever invaded the British Isles, but the time to bring the Light of Islam to London will yet come.



Basrah is once again besieged. Bravely, the Garrissons do their best to stop the misguided Iranian from achieving their goal, and hopefully this will be another great victory, for they remain far outnumbered. Unfortunately, with the abandonment of Africa, the Great Satan legions get ever closer, but they will be wiped out in due time, they really will, provided the front lines with Iran don't break up until then.





For the enemy attacks with fanatical determination and massive numbers. Yet, brave and guided by the Pimp of Pimps, the defenders of Tabriz stand a chance of not faltering even when outnumbered.



And they did it! Tabriz was still under Neo-Babylonian control!

GADDAFU AKBAR!



However, the worrissome situation of the bulk of the Neo-Babylonian army shouldn't be understated. There was a price for these recent victories at the onset of the war, while hundreds of thousands of aircrafts filled sacred soil with bombs and slaughtered countless of the brave soldiers attacking Iran. Too many divisions and brigades were on the verge of breaking down due to massive casualties, and this forced Neo-Babylonia to play on the defensive for now, even as the heathen lapdogs advanced through Africa.



Tanks are the only enemy divisions that can't utterly wipe the floor with bombers when attacked. And thus the lapdogs suffer considerable casualties, but stealth bombers are severely overestimated, or maybe this mod is retarded and instead of balancing air power totally nerfed it and made it almost entirely worthless against anything but shitholes with obsolete forces.





Nevertheless, the damage is done, although casualties for the two bomber wings to head back to Baghdad for the time being.



Then, as things weren't bad enough, the barely hanging forces holding Hamadan are attacked, some of them with strength at 1%. No thought is given on what is the only sane option here.



Unfortunately, Neo-Babylonia may have tangled with a too powerful country for them to handle with their still relatively small military, and now it is too late for peace. It is either victory, or... the end of the dream dying together with the very old King of Kings





Legions of fanatical followers of the misguided Ayatollah charge against Tabriz, where a bloody, deadly battle ensues, where many Neo-Babylonian units suffer the risk of being utterly destroyed.



To secure victory, two Star Mujahideen brigades had no choice but to perform their final duty to the Emperor of Emperors of Mankind.



It was a terrible loss, but the front lines must not break. They must hold until the Neo-Babylonian Army is sufficiently reinforced to start pushing the enemy again, no matter the cost.



A new Star Mujahideen Chapter faces a very difficult mission: to stop a just arrived incursion of the Great Satan lapdogs against Turkey, alone.



And as if things couldn't get even worse, three more units are permanently lost after holding another offensive against Tabriz. This is starting to look worrissomely like how things were at the last days of the Islamic Soviet Union.





Bravely, Gaddafi's Shield attempts to drive back a weaker Great Satan legion of marines. The battle lasts long. But the Marines are no match for the Star Mujahideen and victory may yet ensue!





Not just victory, but that division was utterly crushed from the heavy casualties they suffered!

GADDAFU AKBAR!

However, Basrah is once again besieged, and with two less brigades that were sent to defend the control over the Suez channel, for sooner or later the devils shall come.



The threat of the lapdogs over Turkey is for the moment contained, thanks to the bravery and speed of the lone Gaddafi's Shield brigade that are single-handledly defending this entire front.





However, the Great Satan allies get ever closer to the Middle East, while the battle of Basrah continues to become ever complicated, and with a great uncertainty about whether those 12,000 men will hold out against 120,000 or not.



Also, in due time, all divisions of Neo-Babylonia will have the most advanced helicopters to support them.

The situation at Basrah leads to the requirement of a great risk of losing several divisions to not lose everything.



And thus a desperate flanking offensive is launched to support the defense of Basrah. Now the future of everything is at stake.



However, while Basrah was secured, there was little reason for celebration as even more divisions were permanently lost. The Neo-Babylonian army was falling apart with every Iranian offensive, and reinforcements were so ridiculously, unbalancedly, retardedly as expected from a shitty mod sluggish that this war may last decades and become ridiculously boring and unfun and this is why this thing has taken so long and MDS 2 sucks as it tries too hard to make things "realistic" as in making everything take much longer than in Vanilla to be built, reorganized or reinforced as that is how things should be in reality but this totally unfun and Modern Warfare is a piece of shit full of fail that sucks but I made a promise to get this shit to the end so I'll





Over Turkey in the meanwhile, the Great Satan small force couldn't be fully held, and thus the Star Mujahideen recover organization for one more attempt of holding them off.





Neo-Babylonia's Finest Hour has begun.

Some determination to see it out to the end!

Perhaps try Kaisereich next, I've played a couple of years in it, seems pretty interesting.