Alexandros said:
Thank you for actually presenting an argument and not going "lol, fag"like most would. I see your point and it is a valid one. I believe you when you say that the underlying game is really good, but I have two questions and I'd like your honest opinion on them:
1) Would most people here forgive the stupid and corny elements in another game, if it didn't have H-content and came from a mainstream publisher?
Regarding you first question I think there is a valid reason why even such mainstays of our little
boneyard community as Ghostdog and WhiskeyWolf enjoy this little game greately. Firstly, the game stays true to itself. From turn one you know what to expect from it - a fun comedy with a little porn here and there. That is fair enough and some people may like it solely for that. But, as I gather, that is not enough for either you nor me.
Secondly, and more importantly it actually proves to be more complex than it initially seems, not only in terms of sheer gameplay but also as far as the plot and (the greatest surprise of all) character development is concerned. Figures such as Houjou Soun, Takeda leaders, Kenshin, Inukai, Gekkou, Isoroku are testament of that. The Lp, despite WW's best efforts, doesn't always do the justice here, unfortunately. You need to play the game to experience it.
In many mainstream titles we see a reverse tendency. Let's take the blasted abomination of StarCraft2 campaign as an example (just because I'm so pissed off at it and because SC2 like Rance actually has a good gameplay). The setting promises interstellar struggle of enormous proportions, three different races with completely different mindsets locked in a hopeless struggle for survival. Serious, awesome stuff out there. And after promising that much we get a cookie-cutter story about space cowboys doing shit and dawning booze and somehow against odds winning against an idiot of a villain where in, say, Sengoku Rance with the amount of incompetence they show they would have been steamrolled into pancakes. 7 times. Before actually reallising wtf was going on.
When a porn game that is supposed to be all tongue-in-cheek is actually more serious than EPIC, GRIMDARK AAA title you know you are nearing rock-bottom.
I also have to mention C&C. While SC2 offers 4 fake choices (no real consequence, beside access to some tech and slightly different last mission). Rance has 4 official + 2 unofficial routes that can totally change the gameplay, story and ending. WW has picked the most official path (True route) but they are there. Add to that myriads of small choices and events the consequences of which can get back at you 30 turns later and kick you in the balls or make you scream like a virgin. That is what I call awesome game-design.
2) Do you think that most people who follow the Let's Play, do so because of the quality of the game or because it has hentai content?
Ok that's it for me on this thread, I really don't want to disrupt the thread or spoil anyone's fun with this and the LP is really well done. I just wanted to voice my opinion.
Now the second question - I can only speak for myself and I would be a great hypocrite and douchebag if I didn't admit that boobies and sekz scenes hadn't factored in following this LP and later playing Sengoku Rance. Yes, I concede, despite my hate to hentai and otaku
"subculture" "rubbish" there is a part of me (very immature, I am aware) that actually enjoys that. A guilty pleasure - what can I say?
However, the fact that I'm not ashamed to admit that serves to prove - there is much more in this game than meets the eye once you scrapped over the nonsense on the surface. It is a mighty good game shining with polish and superb design.
Now, play it, damnit!