Elder Scrolls So why is Elder Scrolls lore so interesting?

[Regvard]

All the Pokemon references like Kakuna Burial, Morawak's Spine, Weepingbell Hall and Peke Utchoo.

Eastern influences confirmed.

 

[Caim]

All the Pokemon references like Kakuna Burial, Morawak's Spine, Weepingbell Hall and Peke Utchoo.

Don't forget the Star Wars reference in Bloodmoon.

 

[AW8]

All the Pokemon references like Kakuna Burial, Morawak's Spine, Weepingbell Hall and Peke Utchoo.

Ha, I hadn't catched 'em all!

 

[Commissar Draco]

Hjalti Early Beard is still perfectly legit Nord name taken from RL Iceland not to mention lot of places in High Rock were established and settled by Nords for example Daggerfall. We even meet Altmer Imperial Legionnaire born in Cyrodil who hates Thalmor in the centre of fracking Skyrim. Hjaliti ancestors could be settled in Alcaire by Remans/Potentates after serving in legions. The fact He was warrior and not mage points to him being Nord/Colovian rather than Breton. Besides Were not Athmora frozen already in II era? Always took the Talos of Athmora as hyperbole showing how Talos was personification of Nordiscism and Men races more of statistical and cultural difference... except TES Niggers Raga-da being from different continent. As to lore goes the new books are fun to read and Skyrim is much less rape than Oblibion was or TES MMO will be.

 

[abnaxus]

Talos of Atmora was an actual person, synonymous with Ysmir/King Wulfharth, an avatar of Lorkhan.

 

[Cyberarmy]

How can it be interesting when dwarves are another elven race ....
I really want to see an Elder Scrolls game focused on dwemer.

 

[Indranys]

Thanks guys that's very relieving indeed.
The heresy is just too fun to be dismissed as a mere lie without any fraction of truth, man I know it!
So I'll replay skyrim after I finish my current list then, I do need some good LARPing stuff right now!
Skyrim with hypothermia mod looks very appealing indeed! O Popamole here I come!

 

[DalekFlay]

How can it be interesting when dwarves are another elven race ....
I really want to see an Elder Scrolls game focused on dwemer.

I'm sure they'll eventually have a "lost city of the Dwemer" storyline. It's too pop-a-mole not to.

 

[Clockwork Knight]

Full of still-living, unchanged dwemer. Boy, Yagrum is gonna look really silly then.

All the Pokemon references like Kakuna Burial, Morawak's Spine, Weepingbell Hall and Peke Utchoo.

Eastern influences confirmed.

Marowak, you uncultured swine.

Spoiler

 

[Admiral jimbob]

bby do you have sunder and keening equipped because you just pierced my heart of lorkhan

 

[abnaxus]

First: the Spokes are the eight components of chaos, as yet solidified by the law of time: static change, if you will, something the lizard gods refer to as the Striking. That is the reptile wheel, coiled potential, ever-preamble to the never-action.

Second: they are the lent bones of the Aedra, the Eight gift-limbs to SITHISIT, the wet earth of the new star our home. Outside them is the Aurbis, and not within. Like most things inexplicable, it is a circle. Circles are confused serpents, striking and striking and never given leave to bite. The Aedra would have you believe different, but they were givers before liars. Lies have turned them into biters. Their teeth are the proselytizers; to convert is to place oneself in the mouth of falsehood; even to propitiate is to be swallowed.

Third: the enlightened are those uneaten by the world.

Fourth: the spaces between the gift-limbs number sixteen, the signal shapes of the Demon Princedoms. It is the key and the lock, series and manticore.

Fifth: look at the majesty sideways and all you see is the Tower, which our ancestors made idols from. Look at its center and all you see is the begotten hole, second serpent, womb-ready for the Right Reaching, exact and without enchantment.

Sixth: the heart of the second serpent holds the secret triangular gate.

Seventh: look at the secret triangular gate sideways and you see the secret Tower.

Eighth: the secret Tower within the Tower is the shape of the only name of God, I.

 

[zool]

This thread brings me back straight to 2011 :

http://www.rpgcodex.net/forums/inde...-enticing-about-the-elder-scrolls-lore.61037/

Funny how thread titles are so similar too.

 

[Caim]

Fifth: look at the majesty sideways and all you see is the Tower, which our ancestors made idols from. Look at its center and all you see is the begotten hole, second serpent, womb-ready for the Right Reaching, exact and without enchantment.

Sixth: the heart of the second serpent holds the secret triangular gate.

Seventh: look at the secret triangular gate sideways and you see the secret Tower.

Eighth: the secret Tower within the Tower is the shape of the only name of God, I.

I do not fully understand the "second serpent" thing. I suspect it is Nirn, but what about the triangular gate at its heart? Is it a metaphorical shape of some kind? Or do the sixth and seventh mean that you need to see Nirn not as an O but as an I?

 

[Clockwork Knight]

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Spoiler

 

[Borelli]

I'm playing Skyrim now and every single person who mentions khajiits pronounces name of their homeland (Elsweyr) elsewhere and that just feels wrong to me. It's not how i imagined that word to be pronounced. FFS elsewhere already IS a word. I'm starting to think that whoever wrote that bit of lore was lazy and just threw the first word that came to his mind.

 

[Linden]

Speaking of TES lore...
http://www.shortlist.com/tech/gaming/the-ultimate-morrowind-quiz
I got 14/20, and I've recently been playing it. Who remembers stuff like what people in the Balmora mage's guid are called?

I got 18/20. The ones I answered wrong was 7. (What does Morag Tong translate to? ) and 10. (Where is the Vampiric Ring located?).

 

[Turjan]

I'm starting to think that whoever wrote that bit of lore was lazy and just threw the first word that came to his mind.

That name has long been one of the TES lore running gags. Whoever came up with it probably found it extremely funny, at least that's the only explanation I have. Not that names like Skyrim or Sentinel are much better, but at least they don't sound completely stupid.

 

[Jugashvili]

I think the lame names are a carryover from their tabletop sessions before they made the video games, what with the Abecean (ABC-an) sea, the names of the divines and so on and so forth. It seems they've been trying to clean it up (Redguard = Ra Gada, etc.) with more or less plausible explanations, but the names do betray the lore's informal origins.

 

[Spectacle]

I think the lame names are a carryover from their tabletop sessions before they made the video games, what with the Abecean (ABC-an) sea, the names of the divines and so on and so forth. It seems they've been trying to clean it up (Redguard = Ra Gada, etc.) with more or less plausible explanations, but the names do betray the lore's informal origins.

I remember us doing the same thing with our high-school D&D setting when one of the DMs decided to publish an original RPG set in our world. Lots of silly and/or stolen names had to be rewritten or replaced, and the Giant Penis Monster was completely cut from the lore.

The new game never went anywhere btw.

 

[Jugashvili]

I remember us doing the same thing with our high-school D&D setting when one of the DMs decided to publish an original RPG set in our world. Lots of silly and/or stolen names had to be rewritten or replaced, and the Giant Penis Monster was completely cut from the lore.

The new game never went anywhere btw.

Good times, good times. The worlds we made up at high school may have sucked, but that's probably because the worlds supplied in most rpg rulebooks were also a hodge podge assembly of stolen, uninspired crap, from the generic, kitchen-sinky world in Rolemaster to the downright derpy copypasta from 7th sea.

 

[Clockwork Knight]

I'm starting to think that whoever wrote that bit of lore was lazy and just threw the first word that came to his mind.

That name has long been one of the TES lore running gags. Whoever came up with it probably found it extremely funny, at least that's the only explanation I have. Not that names like Skyrim or Sentinel are much better, but at least they don't sound completely stupid.

I believe it's an in-universe joke, since the khajiit live there and they're not known for their solemnity.

"Hail, furrysome stranger. Where do you come from?"

"Elsewhere. "

 

[Kattze]

I think the lame names are a carryover from their tabletop sessions before they made the video games, what with the Abecean (ABC-an) sea, the names of the divines and so on and so forth. It seems they've been trying to clean it up (Redguard = Ra Gada, etc.) with more or less plausible explanations, but the names do betray the lore's informal origins.

I remember us doing the same thing with our high-school D&D setting when one of the DMs decided to publish an original RPG set in our world. Lots of silly and/or stolen names had to be rewritten or replaced, and the Giant Penis Monster was completely cut from the lore.

The new game never went anywhere btw.

Are you sure it wasn't the prototype for Stones of Arnhem.

 

[TheCatsofSanktPetersburg]

I'm playing Skyrim now and every single person who mentions khajiits pronounces name of their homeland (Elsweyr) elsewhere and that just feels wrong to me. It's not how i imagined that word to be pronounced. FFS elsewhere already IS a word. I'm starting to think that whoever wrote that bit of lore was lazy and just threw the first word that came to his mind.

When the two (kingdoms) united in 309th year of the 2nd Era with the marriage of Kiergo of Anequina and Eshita of Pellitine, the two rulers fully recognized how historic their pact was, and renamed their land accordingly, to Elsweyr. The derivation of this unusual name has perplexed scholars. One commonly held rationale hinges on a particular Khajiit proverb that "a perfect society is always found elsewhere," suggesting that the new King and Queen had that aim, and that sense of humor. Another is that it is reference to Llesw'er, a paradise promised to the Khajiit by the Riddle'Thar. Either possibility points to an optimism which was not to be matched by reality.

 

[Jugashvili]

"Oh yeah, it's actually not Giant Dick Monster, it's a corruption of a name in the ancient tongue of the local people, Zhay 'Ant Deeq Moon-Star, an ancient deity of the Sähnd Nee Gars"

 

[TheCatsofSanktPetersburg]

South Italian numismatics: Coins? Sorry, but I do not follow.

Yeah, I've confused the terms. I meant onomastics, the study of names. A lot of dunmer names from Morrowind had a sort of south italian sound to them: Serano, Redoran, Bandas, Saryoni, Barelo, Andrano, Telvanni (and all the ones that end with "-ni").

But looking back that doesn't actually seem to be the rule.

One cool thing about Dunmer onomastics is that they appear to change throughout their history. Their daedric ruins all have long sumerian names like Almurbalarammi and Ihinipalit, the ashland tribes seem to have kept this aspect of the old dunmer ways before the coming of the great houses.