Torment Torment: Tides of Numenera Beta Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[DosBuster]

If it's releasing this year it'd have to be October or maybe December otherwise they're going to get dumped on by all the AAA titles

 

[Urthor]

Na you have a good point. Oct-December is absolutely blacked out for a title like Numenera, it'll be first quarter 2017 100%.

October's competition is too steep for it, November/December no contest, the late December slot that Just Cause traditionally releases in isn't very strong to say the least.

 

[Infinitron]

Wasteland 2 was in beta for nine months, from December to September. There's reason to believe that Torment wouldn't need as much time (more experienced team, established engine, etc).

 

[Sensuki]

Then again they didn't completely re-work the introduction to WL2 I suppose.

 

[vortex]

Do we know what is the word count ?

Will combat encounters balance out reading and talking?

 

[FeelTheRads]

Do we know what is the word count ?

Close to 1 billion by now, I'd assume.

 

[Urthor]

Wasteland 2 was in beta for nine months, from December to September. There's reason to believe that Torment wouldn't need as much time (more experienced team, established engine, etc).

Yes but when has a video game developer ever said "oh ok we can't release the game between October-December, do you want some more time or do you just want to crunch it out and get it gold in October."

I'm sure this'll get the usual delay outta holiday season.

 

[Sacred82]

Will combat encounters balance out reading and talking?

a 50/50 ratio is not desired for this game.

 

[vortex]

a 50/50 ratio is not desired for this game.

What is then ?

 

[Infinitron]

Yes but when has a video game developer ever said "oh ok we can't release the game between October-December, do you want some more time or do you just want to crunch it out and get it gold in October."

I'm sure this'll get the usual delay outta holiday season.

*shrug* They're planning for this year. For all we know it could be out in August.

 

[ghostdog]

Let me just point out that the release version of W2 was basically a glorified beta and that they released the finished version a year later. I'm hoping this won't be the case here.

 

[IHaveHugeNick]

I don't see why they wouldn't launch in November. It's not like they're competing for the same demographic with people who will buy Halo 8 or whatever AAA shit comes out this year.

 

[Urthor]

I don't see why they wouldn't launch in November. It's not like they're competing for the same demographic with people who will buy Halo 8 or whatever AAA shit comes out this year.

Press oxygen for one. The difference between absolute maximum coverage for a game in the dead months, versus pretty much nothing in the depths of November, probably adds up to 100k+ sales.

How much of PoE's sales were based on PCGamer/Kotaku et al pretty much sperging all over it, handing out advertising money can't buy because Jason Schreier got flashbacks to the childhood he spent locked in his bedroom pretending he was a wizard? If you release in February in XCom2's release slot, or hell in Dragon's Dogma Dark Arisen's last weeks of January slot, you'll be giving a gift to the paid game advertisers reviewers by giving them content. And they'll pay back, especially if the rest of the game holds up to the vertical slice we've been given.

 

[Grotesque]

(i) Never use a metaphor, simile, or other figure of speech which you are used to seeing in print.

(ii) Never use a long word where a short one will do.

(iii) If it is possible to cut a word out, always cut it out.

(iv) Never use the passive where you can use the active.

(v) Never use a foreign phrase, a scientific word, or a jargon word if you can think of an everyday English equivalent.

(vi) Break any of these rules sooner than say anything outright barbarous.


http://www.openculture.com/2016/05/george-orwells-six-rules-for-writing-clear-and-tight-prose.html

 

[vortex]

Close to 1 billion by now, I'd assume.

Combat would not neccesary ruin Torment experience. A good chunck of fun combat encounters would be nice intermezzo for reading 1 billion
words. Nevertheless, good writing keeps you engaged.

 

[Sacred82]

a 50/50 ratio is not desired for this game.

What is then ?

70/30 would be about right IMO. I definitely want to spend more time sifting through info dumps, exploring and talking than fighting.

 

[SniperHF]

70/30 would be about right IMO. I definitely want to spend more time sifting through info dumps, exploring and talking than fighting.

I haven't counted it out or anything, but I'd say it's closer to 85/15 in the beta content even if you intentionally fight everything you can. Keeping in mind that there is at least two locations not implemented yet but the entrances are present and both of those locations seem like they will have combat opportunities.

I suspect that a place like the bloom would have more obvious combat opportunities than Sagus Cliffs though.

 

[Brother None]

Then again they didn't completely re-work the introduction to WL2 I suppose.

I mean, it went through some significant changes. One of my contributions on WL2 was helping re-design the opening Radio Tower area, which initially had a less different paths/skill choices. Not that it's like a big expansive area but I feel it hits a good cross-section of challenges/possibilities for a "first area".

That was all pre-beta though.

 

[Daedalos]

So, Brother None, is the next TTON beta update several months away? or maybe just a few?

Pl0x clarify ! I suppose you're still aiming for a 2016 release, too.

 

[Brother None]

So, Brother None, is the next TTON beta update several months away? or maybe just a few?

It's more a matter of weeks than months, we're testing and polishing up the early game zones along with major changes and additions. We'll share more word on social media and elsewhere when we have more info & a solid ETA.

 

[Fairfax]

George Ziets interview at Gamegrin.

 

[Rev]

Nice interview, I'm glad Ziets ended up having a large role in the game. Although he's not in charge of the narrative, his presence is probably the main reason why I have some hope that inXile will finally deliver a good game this time.

 

[SymbolicFrank]

So, does it look like an exceptional gaming experience?

 

[iZerw]

Bah, the beta still runs like crap. Boo.

Did they even update it?

 

[Fry]

No. Nothing has changed since January.