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[Seven]

That mysterious quote is pretty bullshitty. Malak, don't be a dick: If you have an actual link post it, if not then be man and admit that you lied, simple right?

I also did some checking with my less than scrupulous friends and apparently you can get cracked Sacred copies in China town right now for $15 a pop, so yeah putting fustrating protections really stops piracy. All it manages to do is fustrate legitimate customers, and the illegal users get cracked versions that install and work fine.

 

[Elwro]

Look! Amazon.de is ILLEGAL because it sells Nero, WinOnCD and CloneDVD!

http://www.amazon.de/exec/obidos/tg/bro ... 44-3058109

The section is called Rippen, Brennen und Kopieren.

 

[Balthus]

Malak was almost right, except that this

The law, that is now in effect in five member states (Germany, Austria, Greece, Denmark and Italy) makes it illegal to distribute (even for free), sell, manufacture, develope or advertise tools or software utilities that have the sole purpose of circumventing copy protections. This applies to all copy protection mechanisms, including cracking the CSS that's found on most DVD-Video discs, circumventing audio CD copy protections, etc.

would be a more appropriate way of summing up part of the new law(http://bundesrecht.juris.de/bundesrecht/urhg/index.html sorry, could'nt find a translation). And this doesnt necessarily mean that Alcohol 120% or Daemon Tools are illegal, just that they are questiable. And afaik no court ever spoke the developers of those programs guilty of penetrating the new law, so you can still purchase and use them legally in germany.

P.S.: first post, yay!

 

[DarkUnderlord]

Yup. Malak is right (by the way, when did this place become full of fucktards who don't do their research?).

But, you wanna know what's better? Apparently...

German implementation of the law went even further than what the EUCD itself required -- German version of the EUCD implementation makes it illegal to even discuss about circumventing copy protections in public (as on Net pages).

Like all good things, there's a website about it: http://www.eucd.org/issues/eucd/

It was on Slashdot too: http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/03/07/14/02 ... ml?tid=185

 

[Seven]

It's not a question of doing our own research, it's a question of being forced to substantiate some one elses (opposing) point of view. If I'm pro gun control then why should I go out looking for something that's going to undermine my own argument?

 

[Malak]

Because that's how a good debater works. Your arguement for your side is liable to fall apart if the other side researches your side just as much, and has an arguement that undermines your stance. If you are going to debate something, you have to know what you are debating on all sides. Practice being a devil's advocate and argue against yourself sometime.

 

[Seven]

Don't be a dink. You're not a GOOD debater by any stretch. You quoted something that you didn't post a link too. Also what you quoted wasn't entirely correct, so where does that leave you? I'll tell you: it leaves you nowhere. As far as I'm concerned the others in this thread who substantiated your point are the *good* debaters because they used actual facts, see the difference?

 

[HanoverF]

Your argument falls apart if you say something is illegal, and the source you choose to use and fail to cite DISAGREES with your argument.



A cloudless daytime sky is yellow.

A clear cloudless day-time sky is blue because molecules in the air scatter blue light from the sun more than they scatter red light.

I r a exellant dbaytr

 

[Elwro]

OK, if you substitute

software utilities that allow circumventing copy protections

with

software utilities that have the sole purpose of circumventing copy protections

, everything changes. The first law is plain bullshit, the second is just stupid, because you can't prove anything to be the sole purpose of any piece of software which is even a little bit complicated.

This doesn't change the fact that from Malak's first quote it follows that the biggest online shop in Germany is openly breaking the law. And he wanted us to believe that.
Yeah. Quote something that is false and ask us to do our own research... Do it yourself before quoting, OK?

 

[Malak]

]A clear cloudless day-time sky is blue because molecules in the air scatter blue light from the sun more than they scatter red light.

But why blue?

 

[Sol Invictus]

The law isn't a viably enforceable one by any stretch of imagination.

The reason's simple: It'd put TDK, Siemens, Philips and the majority of the German computer industry out of business. They invented the CD-ROM, after all. If you'll read some of TDK's press releases, they don't give a flying fuck about the EUCD law.

 

[axel]

Because that's how a good debater works.[...].

I thought I explained it to you.

This is not high school debate, this is the internet (and that's serious business!) if you make a claim and someone else contends it, it is solely your responsiblity to provide the link to crediable 3rd party which vaildates your claim.

Just like debate, if you can't cite your souce, we toss your "fact" out the fucking window and then drive over it and then reverse and drive over it again.

Yup. Malak is right (by the way, when did this place become full of fucktards who don't do their research?).

the phrase "sole purpose of" completely changes the meaning of his statment.

 

[Voss]

]A clear cloudless day-time sky is blue because molecules in the air scatter blue light from the sun more than they scatter red light.

But why blue?

Because thats what it is when it isn't gray.
Or paisley.
Or that nasty orange you get in Los Angeles at night, though that is admittedly the city's street lights reacting with all the shit in the air.

 

[Malak]

Because thats what it is when it isn't gray.
Or paisley.
Or that nasty orange you get in Los Angeles at night, though that is admittedly the city's street lights reacting with all the shit in the air.

That doesn't answer why it's blue.

 

[Trash]

It's just the way our eyes and brain work. For a octopus it might be a pale white, for a cat a dark blueish and for us it is blue.

Heck there are plenty of interesting tests about the way we see and interpred things that have been done in the past, find a neat book about the brain and start reading, you'll be amazed.

Fun little fact, through a device utilising mirrors you can rotate the view 180 degrees. People wearing it stumble about, walk into things etc. After a few days they seem to get used to it, let them take the device off and...voila they stumble about again. They got so used to the device that without it it seems the world is upside down.

 

[Otaku_Hanzo]

Because thats what it is when it isn't gray.
Or paisley.
Or that nasty orange you get in Los Angeles at night, though that is admittedly the city's street lights reacting with all the shit in the air.

That doesn't answer why it's blue.

And I do believe that's his point.

*deftly dodges a couple of shuriken tossed at him from the shadows*

Crap! Gotta go!

kthxbye

 

[ecliptic]

Gay.

 

[Seven]

Both or just the one?

 

[Malak]

It's just the way our eyes and brain work.

That doesn't answer why it's blue either.

 

[axel]

That doesn't answer why it's blue either.

Blue refers to a specific wavelength of the light spectrum.

So obviously it's because of David Bowie and his goblinoids.

 

[Malak]

Blue refers to a specific wavelength of the light spectrum.

What we see is a part of the light spectrum, but that doesn't explain why we see blue. Why is that part of the light spectrum blue?

 

[Spazmo]

Because that wavelength corresponds to blue within our visual spectrum. I suppose that essentially, it's blue because a) we called it blue and b) because it's not red or violet or whatever.

 

[Seven]

Blue refers to a specific wavelength of the light spectrum.

What we see is a part of the light spectrum, but that doesn't explain why we see blue. Why is that part of the light spectrum blue?

Why are you asking these question? How they relate to the previous topic, and why are you other dinks engaging in this topic?

 

[Vault Dweller]

Come on, give people a chance to show how smart they are

 

[Malak]

it's blue because... ...it's not red or violet or whatever.

Spazmo wins. This is the only acceptable answer that anyone could give.