Mod News Fallout 4 Far Harbor DLC contains quest stolen from Codexer-developed New Vegas mod

[Scroo]

Lol I hope heads will roll for this internally, this is just ridiculous

 

[Kz3r0]

The day the Codex brought down Bethesda.

 

[Roguey]

It's entirely possible no one at Bethesda even played this mod except the quest designer who stole it and is possibly on the lay-off list now.

 

[IHaveHugeNick]

So, mod creator is apparently European. Things are starting to get interesting.

 

[Ulminati]

Lol I hope heads will roll for this internally, this is just ridiculous

The djinn is out of the bottle now, and there's a very real prospect of a lawsuit. If there's one thing companies respect/fear, it's copyright and plagiarism laws.
Odds are Todd won't need to worry himself overmuch though. It'll be some low/mid level corporate drone that gets thrown under the bus. Possibly with a settlement out of court to silence the author. It's not the kind of thing bethesda wants a muckraker to drag up next time they release DLC.

 

[DeepOcean]

The day the Codex brought down Bethesda.

No way Bethesda will steal the Fallout IP and make some shitty FPS with it, the codex won't allow it... wait...

 

[taxalot]

They probably thought they were doing this guy an honor. He would be so flattered.for the recognition!

Or, and that is actually a much more sensible explanation, they thought nobody who bothered to play Fallout 3 quality mods would play another Bethesda games.

 

[Brayko]

Bethesda seems to be aware that they make really shitty Fallout games, I mean real fucking bad, so of course they're gonna resort to plagiarism, add their stink on it, and sell millions. They've been doing it for over a decade, this battle is lost, why are the skeletons still trying to dent their indestructible format?

Remember when Kickstarter was gonna tear down the industry? Ha!

They probably thought they were doing this guy an honor. He would be so flattered.for the recognition!

This to! The guy probably doesn't even care!

 

[Chateaubryan]

Now, if you could play Autumn Leaves and tell me some constructive criticism...

 

[Ismaul]

Fighting the good fight with your voice!

 

[Ulminati]

Now, if you could play Autumn Leaves and tell me some constructive criticism...

Sorry. You seem like a bro and all, but there's no way in hell I'm installing a Bethesda Fallout game.

 

[Metro]

Lol I hope heads will roll for this internally, this is just ridiculous

The djinn is out of the bottle now, and there's a very real prospect of a lawsuit. If there's one thing companies respect/fear, it's copyright and plagiarism laws.
Odds are Todd won't need to worry himself overmuch though. It'll be some low/mid level corporate drone that gets thrown under the bus. Possibly with a settlement out of court to silence the author. It's not the kind of thing bethesda wants a muckraker to drag up next time they release DLC.

Even putting aside the issues of the 'original' being a mod created with Bethesda's property there's really no grounds for a lawsuit here. But, yes, it is pretty laughable on Bethesda's part.

 

[Dreaad]

I don't really see a problem as long they acknowledge the original author so to speak. Could've even been some good pr for them and modder..... but no, they just had to steal it.

 

[Bester]

They've murdered two franchises before. Pfff stealing, whatever.

 

[DeepOcean]

They've murdered two franchises before. Pfff stealing, whatever.

Yep, if it is dead, it isn't technically stealing, right?

 

[Tito Anic]

The day the Codex brought down Bethesda.

 

[Onholyservicebound]

They've murdered two franchises before. Pfff stealing, whatever.

I mean, look at how original their first go at Fallout was as well. You're a vault dweller whose looking for a geck and then trying to find a way to purify water whilst fighting the enclave and super mutants. They are clearly very original over at Bethesda.

 

[Space Insect]

Sorry. You seem like a bro and all, but there's no way in hell I'm installing a Bethesda Fallout game.

I'm pretty sure it's a mod for New Vegas. I don't blame you for not wanting to touch the Gamebryo abomination though.

 

[Kem0sabe]

A new low for Bethesda, fucking incompetence but probably not company sanctioned.

 

[Fenix]

ITZ COMING

Nice work Infinitron. ))))
I expect at least small geyser of shit in future, also we must not deceive ourselves - Bespezda like any big corp have many tools of damage control.

 

[grimace]

Tags: Bethesda Softworks; Fallout 4; Fallout: Autumn Leaves; Fallout: New Vegas

Hell, it even has a Cleve Blakemore reference.

Spoil this reference for me?

 

[Mozg]

^ Codex meme in a book title IIRC. The setup is that the vault in AL is a big library so there are a lot of opportunities for namedropping authors and books.

The best outcome of this would be some guy like Superbunnyhop doing a real effort comparison of a mod almost no one that's getting upset about this has played and the DLC.

He'll say it's completely possible no one at Bethesda ever played AL (because it is - AFAICT without having actually played the DLC, but reading the wiki for the quest and having played AL, the main similarity is that both have highly dissimilar robot murder mysteries in a vault, and the murder is not what AL is really even "about") and then going wow Autumn Leaves is pretty damn good and Chateaubryan can get some publicity.

Another possibility is that some guy at Beth did play it, took the idea of a robot murder mystery in a vault, and made his seriously dissimilar take on the idea in the typical stupid Bethesda idiom. That does not rise to the level of plagiarism.

 

[Fenix]

Another possibility is that some guy at Beth did play it, took the idea of a robot murder mystery in a vault, and made his seriously dissimilar take on the idea in the typical stupid Bethesda idiom. That does not rise to the level of plagiarism.

Did you saw the pics? It is even has similar interior.
Of course he played.

 

[Mozg]

A raised catwalk over an atrium is in every Bethfallout vault. They both used it because the catwalk/railing assets are there for it. The coincidence, which could even be meant as a hat tip to Chateaubryan, is that they happen to be about the same size (or it could be because both Chateau and Beth are using some similar template or something). The actual robots, location, and nature of the murder mystery are totally different.

I don't remember the painting conversation in AL and it's not talked about in the wiki for the quest so I dunno.

 

[sgm]

Can't wait to play Fallout 1.5 Resurrection tomorrow and see what Bethesda will steal next.