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[undead dolphin hacker]

Did Andharia have Dumbfuck before or after creating this thread?

 

[undead dolphin hacker]

Stop these annoying BG threads.

BG 1 is the ONLY game I know with extra dialogue when you use the Charm spell on NPCs. The only game where you can go charm NPCs to learn more information. The spider thing in Cloakwood? Charm her and she tells you how she got cursed. Then guard near the Iron Throne HQ? Charm him and he spills the whole plot.

Wizardry 8 (and RoA) had mindread stuff, which is close.

I should go back and charm the Iron Throne guard so I can actually understand the plot of Baldur's Gate.

 

[Brother None]

Stop these annoying BG threads.

BG 1 is the ONLY game I know with extra dialogue when you use the Charm spell on NPCs. The only game where you can go charm NPCs to learn more information. The spider thing in Cloakwood? Charm her and she tells you how she got cursed. Then guard near the Iron Throne HQ? Charm him and he spills the whole plot.

The sad thing is - nobody ever remembers or even NOTICES this awesome feature of BG. I just learned about this as I replay the game. It's incredibly amazing how much "hidden" dialogue there is when you use Charm; I would never have expected this from Bioware and it improves the game tons, in my book; even though most "charm" changes are minor.

By the same logic that Fallout's non-combat options are irrelevant because you don't exploit them fully instinctively, this fact is completely useless.

lulz @ turning BG-boyz logic against themselves

 

[Jasede]

Err. Right.

Well, finally I understand Volourn.

Roofles!

 

[Brother None]

Oh, wow.

Sorry to hear that, dude.

 

[Jasede]

Here's an explanation:

Fallout's non-violence is well known - BG's charm dialogue is not known by even 5% of the players. The fact isn't useless because it gives a game that's usually just called a terrible dungeon crawler a whole new RP element, not at all comparable to Fallout that is built on those elements. Thirdly, I don't see any BG fanboys.

 

[Shannow]

I see dead... oh sorry. Wrong thread.

Keep on discussing.

 

[Elwro]

Did Andharia have Dumbfuck before or after creating this thread?

Before.

 

[Andhaira]

In baldursw gate a DRUID can use charm animal spell to charm a violent rat, and thus get p[ass him non-violently. Can you do that in fallout? Nah, didn't think so. You have no choice but to engage in man-2-rat kombat. Also, when coming across wilderness encounters you can use charm person/monster/animal and get by them non-violently.

In this situation,

BG > Fallout.

Anyhow, getting back on topic, does someone have those two portraits already, orwill I have to get 'em myself to prove my dtractors wrong?

 

[Hümmelgümpf]

You can sneak past rats in Fallout.

 

[MetalCraze]

better way is to portal past rats using the aperture science

 

[Andhaira]

You can sneak past 'em in BG too.

BG = More options.

 

[Hümmelgümpf]

So you blame Fallout for not having spellcasting? This calls for the second dumbfuck tag.

 

[Andhaira]

No. I'm not blaming anything,just making a comparison. Fallout was futuristic/post apoc; it can't have spellcasting. Stop putting words into my mouth, and I'll stop putting my dick into yours.

 

[Lumpy]

For fuck's sake...
There is even a perk in Fallout called Animal Empathy which makes animals friendly.

 

[MetalCraze]

fallout is ideal

 

[Hümmelgümpf]

How could I have forgotten?

 

[MetalCraze]

How could I have forgotten?

because you are not furry?
and that pic really really looks wrong

 

[RK47]

Stop these annoying BG threads.

BG 1 is the ONLY game I know with extra dialogue when you use the Charm spell on NPCs. The only game where you can go charm NPCs to learn more information. The spider thing in Cloakwood? Charm her and she tells you how she got cursed. Then guard near the Iron Throne HQ? Charm him and he spills the whole plot.

The sad thing is - nobody ever remembers or even NOTICES this awesome feature of BG. I just learned about this as I replay the game. It's incredibly amazing how much "hidden" dialogue there is when you use Charm; I would never have expected this from Bioware and it improves the game tons, in my book; even though most "charm" changes are minor.

whoa. i didn't know this shit either. time for a replay. I think people went past this because the heavy combat going on, people tend to save their charms (I know I did) for purely combat application. It's just a natural way of assumption, spells are for combat, CHA is for talking / turn undead, that's it.

 

[Andhaira]

Lol, that looks like the energizer bunny whoz on drugs and shit. :D

 

[Andhaira]

@RK47: Best use though is charming them and then making them fight for you!

 

[RK47]

@RK47: Best use though is charming them and then making them fight for you!

yeah as far as I know THAT is the ONLY application I assume in BG1. I never heard of using Charm to get more information or more dialogue choices.

 

[inwoker]

Are you sure he's not a Volourn alt? I'm getting suspicious

what's the point if codex was vd and kingcomrade with alts, now vd is gone and...

btw, where is kc? Is that related to kreidebein and that other girl dissapearance?

 

[Volrath]

What's up wilth all these retarded BG threads?

 

[Jasede]

Someone clearly missed the days when every second thread was an Oblivion thread.

Man, those were good times.

Eh, actually, BG > Oblivion, so it ain't that bad, no matter how high your standards.