Viata
Arcane
Exactly why we say JRPG are RPG made in Japan.I'd rather have a useful term that assumes some common sense than a rigid one rendered meaningless.
So the trillion of RPGmaker shitstains on Steam are not JRPGs despite being carbon copies of nintentard JRPGs, because they were made by american and european weeaboos? Very useful term indeed.
See, that is where we go down a slippery slope of absurd nonsense where we can't decide what is a JRPG or not.
So just decide that any game made on RPGmaker is JRPG. In no way you are going to be able to define JRPG without excluding games that are clearly JRPG. Try to define JRPG that included DQ, FF and Tales of series and at the same time exclude DD and Souls series. Tales of series do not even follow the turn-based combat, it had been real time since day 1.
But at the end of the day, it's all about "well, I like the game, but I hate JRPG, so this game CAN'T be JRPG".