KickStarter Pathfinder: Kingmaker Pre-DLC Thread [GO TO NEW THREAD]

[Cael]

You don't need to become better, you just need to be better than wrpg and it's low bar to clear.

And yet many jrpgs can't stand even near to this "low bar" and can't offer to player anything besides fanservice.

I don't know about that. JRPGs tend to have far different ways of doing things. It is a cultural thing, I believe. I defy any WRPG that comes up with the dream-in-reality that was FF10 or the whole Thanatos pileup that was Suikoden5.

 

[Cross]

Weaboo herpaderp scores 90+ whilst western cRPGs rarely reach that.

Well, new western crpgs rarely good so they are correct.

By that sterling logic Oblivion, Skyrim and Fallout 3 with their 94+ Metacritic scores are the best RPGs ever.

Japanese RPGs generally get higher scores because, like Bethesda games, they have more exposure and better marketing than most cRPGs.

 

[Reinhardt]

Weaboo herpaderp scores 90+ whilst western cRPGs rarely reach that.

Well, new western crpgs rarely good so they are correct.

By that sterling logic Oblivion, Skyrim and Fallout 3 with their 94+ Metacritic scores are the best RPGs ever.

Japanese RPGs generally get higher scores because, like Bethesda games, they have more exposure and better marketing than most cRPGs.

Nah. You are talking about big and famous guys like ff or dragon quest. Overall jrpgs are niche. Even western tumbler indies have bigger exposure than most japanese games because their authors and journalists fucks each other.

 

[Curratum]

So uhm, I uninstalled around hotfix 12 or something. Now that 1.1 is out, is the game navigable without any major hiccups?

 

[Chippy]

Here's something that goes against everything I know about games: notice how the combat log retains info from you last save?. I've got a trickery score of 34 and I can't spot a trap, it does over 100 dam to my party and kills Linzi outright. So I reload and she's no longer in my party. When she's died in the past, this has happened because of that stupid ring she wears, but a reload has always fixed it - except here she's still on the screen, but removed from the party.
So I'm assuming the game carries info of her death from the previous save? Like it does info from the previous game' combat log?.

It's kinda annoying now, because I've gotta go back about 1+1/2 hr of gaming, and the area it was in

Spoiler

had a primal shambling mound that could only be killed with an inflict wounds spell with a 50% average fail chance because area spell failure

I'm thinking of just chucking Linzi out of the party after this.

Spoiler

Don't know if it was possible to have kept Tartuccio, but I kinda liked that guy. And I'm thinking I might not reload the next time Linzi gets burned to ash

 

[Rinslin Merwind]

I don't know about that. JRPGs tend to have far different ways of doing things. It is a cultural thing, I believe. I defy any WRPG that comes up with the dream-in-reality that was FF10 or the whole Thanatos pileup that was Suikoden5.

JRPG it's cultural thing indeed, but arrogant idiots who came up on forums to brag about how JRPG product OBJECTIVELY (like art can be measured by some golden standard, lol) better than anything else, forget about it and claim that these games fit to everyone.

"Fanservice" is already more than most wrpgs bring to the table.

Wow, such entitled opinion, except fanservice doesn't add any value to the game (if we talking about rpg, not porn games).

Even western tumbler indies have bigger exposure than most japanese games because their authors and journalists fucks each other.

I don't think that anyone interested to listen a details about western dev's sexual life here right now, at least not from a guy who came in this forum to suck his own dick and stroke his own ego.

If western rpgs was so bad, I don't think anyone need "expert" like you to write this. But they aren't, and you can't handle a thought that anyone have different tastes.

 

[Cael]

I don't know about that. JRPGs tend to have far different ways of doing things. It is a cultural thing, I believe. I defy any WRPG that comes up with the dream-in-reality that was FF10 or the whole Thanatos pileup that was Suikoden5.

JRPG it's cultural thing indeed, but arrogant idiots who came up on forums to brag about how JRPG product OBJECTIVELY (like art can be measured by some golden standard, lol) better than anything else, forget about it and claim that these games fit to everyone.

Haven't seen them, but I don't go to the hentai forum, so I'd likely have missed it. Gushing otakus must be a PITA for Asians.

JRPG tend to be a breath of fresh air to people used to WRPG, though, so there is a chance they are put on a pedestal a bit.

 

[Reinhardt]

Decided to go with smilodon and his sorc woman after all. My party has average strength of 10 so we desperately need strong man to carry loot.

 

[Cross]

Weaboo herpaderp scores 90+ whilst western cRPGs rarely reach that.

Well, new western crpgs rarely good so they are correct.

By that sterling logic Oblivion, Skyrim and Fallout 3 with their 94+ Metacritic scores are the best RPGs ever.

Japanese RPGs generally get higher scores because, like Bethesda games, they have more exposure and better marketing than most cRPGs.

Nah. You are talking about big and famous guys like ff or dragon quest. Overall jrpgs are niche. Even western tumbler indies have bigger exposure than most japanese games because their authors and journalists fucks each other.

No, I'm talking about the comparison made earlier in this thread, which was between Valkyria Chronicles IV and Pathfinder: Kingmaker.

Valkyria Chronicles IV has 83 reviews on Metacritic.

Pathfinder: Kingmaker has 24 reviews on Metacritic, almost all of which are from obscure websites I've never heard about.

So how exactly do you arrive at the conclusion that "Even western tumbler indies have bigger exposure than most japanese games"?

 

[Sharpedge]

Well I am pushing my way through the house at the end of time now. My initial strategy of Tsunami and Horrid Wilting has been discarded as their fortitude saves are too high to throw them back with Tsunami. I am now using a slightly different approach of "Wall of Boogymen" and Horrid Wilting. It seems to work ok, but occasionally my game crashes when this happens:

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Decided to go with smilodon and his sorc woman after all. My party has average strength of 10 so we desperately need strong man to carry loot.

You won't need it for long. I am soloing with this setup and very quickly your smilodon will build up enough strength to carry everything, I have a carrying capacity of 10,000 and a similar amount of strength. I am actually regretting not stat dumping down to 7.

 

[Elex]

Here's something that goes against everything I know about games: notice how the combat log retains info from you last save?. I've got a trickery score of 34 and I can't spot a trap, it does over 100 dam to my party and kills Linzi outright. So I reload and she's no longer in my party. When she's died in the past, this has happened because of that stupid ring she wears, but a reload has always fixed it - except here she's still on the screen, but removed from the party.
So I'm assuming the game carries info of her death from the previous save? Like it does info from the previous game' combat log?.

It's kinda annoying now, because I've gotta go back about 1+1/2 hr of gaming, and the area it was in

Spoiler

had a primal shambling mound that could only be killed with an inflict wounds spell with a 50% average fail chance because area spell failure

I'm thinking of just chucking Linzi out of the party after this.

Spoiler

Don't know if it was possible to have kept Tartuccio, but I kinda liked that guy. And I'm thinking I might not reload the next time Linzi gets burned to ash

if you like tartuccio you should take the white hair guy when you become baron

 

[Elex]

Weaboo herpaderp scores 90+ whilst western cRPGs rarely reach that.

Well, new western crpgs rarely good so they are correct.

By that sterling logic Oblivion, Skyrim and Fallout 3 with their 94+ Metacritic scores are the best RPGs ever.

Japanese RPGs generally get higher scores because, like Bethesda games, they have more exposure and better marketing than most cRPGs.

Nah. You are talking about big and famous guys like ff or dragon quest. Overall jrpgs are niche. Even western tumbler indies have bigger exposure than most japanese games because their authors and journalists fucks each other.

No, I'm talking about the comparison made earlier in this thread, which was between Valkyria Chronicles IV and Pathfinder: Kingmaker.

Valkyria Chronicles IV has 83 reviews on Metacritic.

Pathfinder: Kingmaker has 24 reviews on Metacritic, almost all of which are from obscure websites I've never heard about.

So how exactly do you arrive at the conclusion that "Even western tumbler indies have bigger exposure than most japanese games"?

valk chronicles have also a console release, kingmaker console is not on console for now.

 

[Elex]

Ferrari could make more profit if they started making SUVs

ferrari is making a suv

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75tgpwrjjp8

 

[Serus]

Here's something that goes against everything I know about games: notice how the combat log retains info from you last save?. I've got a trickery score of 34 and I can't spot a trap, it does over 100 dam to my party and kills Linzi outright. So I reload and she's no longer in my party. When she's died in the past, this has happened because of that stupid ring she wears, but a reload has always fixed it - except here she's still on the screen, but removed from the party.
So I'm assuming the game carries info of her death from the previous save? Like it does info from the previous game' combat log?.

It's kinda annoying now, because I've gotta go back about 1+1/2 hr of gaming, and the area it was in

Spoiler

had a primal shambling mound that could only be killed with an inflict wounds spell with a 50% average fail chance because area spell failure

I'm thinking of just chucking Linzi out of the party after this.

Spoiler

Don't know if it was possible to have kept Tartuccio, but I kinda liked that guy. And I'm thinking I might not reload the next time Linzi gets burned to ash

Wait, wait, wait, wait. Trickery is used to DISARM traps, perception is used to spot them afaik.

 

[Chippy]

multipost

 

[Chippy]

multipost

 

[Perkel]

Wait, wait, wait, wait. Trickery is used to DISARM traps, perception is used to spot them afaik.

Yup, and they both work like shit. Maybe my game is bonkers idk, but even if I boost a skill after failing a check, the game refuses to let me redo it unless I exit the map and come back which is pretty sucky.

That sounds like incline to me.

 

[ArchAngel]

In 1.1 Dwarf's Hardy ability still does not work vs poisons LOL.
And I even sent them a bug report with screenshot few weeks ago.

I used new report bug (f11) to report it again.

 

[Chippy]

Here's something that goes against everything I know about games: notice how the combat log retains info from you last save?. I've got a trickery score of 34 and I can't spot a trap, it does over 100 dam to my party and kills Linzi outright. So I reload and she's no longer in my party. When she's died in the past, this has happened because of that stupid ring she wears, but a reload has always fixed it - except here she's still on the screen, but removed from the party.
So I'm assuming the game carries info of her death from the previous save? Like it does info from the previous game' combat log?.

It's kinda annoying now, because I've gotta go back about 1+1/2 hr of gaming, and the area it was in

Spoiler

had a primal shambling mound that could only be killed with an inflict wounds spell with a 50% average fail chance because area spell failure

I'm thinking of just chucking Linzi out of the party after this.

Spoiler

Don't know if it was possible to have kept Tartuccio, but I kinda liked that guy. And I'm thinking I might not reload the next time Linzi gets burned to ash

Wait, wait, wait, wait. Trickery is used to DISARM traps, perception is used to spot them afaik.

Trying to post on goddamn crap country bandwidth ... I worded that badly, I've to a perception of 32, Harrim has 18, Jaethal 28 and they all failed to spot it. When I reloaded the map I had no issue whatsoever. I'm assuming it's a bug as I had a similiar issue elsewhere (although I spotted the trap) but it failed to load the trap outline and had to walk through it at a significant xp loss.

 

[Reinhardt]

Yay! Lvl 4. Now we have TWO smilodons in party.

 

[TemplarGR]

By that sterling logic Oblivion, Skyrim and Fallout 3 with their 94+ Metacritic scores are the best RPGs ever.

Japanese RPGs generally get higher scores because, like Bethesda games, they have more exposure and better marketing than most cRPGs.

The real reason jrpgs get higher scores is because they tend to have better production values and less bugs. Also they are perfectly suitable games for their target audience: 12 year olds.

One thing many don't seem to get is that Japanese people avoid playing video games in adulthood, at least non-mobile phone games. Their games are generally designed for kids and teenagers, which is why in jrpgs teenager hero trope is so common...

On the other hand, most western rpgs tend to have poor production values, shitty quality assurance, and they don't even understand their own audience: They design games for 12 year olds while their audience are mainly 35 year old grumpy old veterans like myself. LOL.

 

[Jasede]

Feels like I'm doing something wrong. People say you finish the game at about level 17. I've been that level before entering Pitax Palace, and then some.
Then again, I do take every skill check.

Then again, I avoid every random encounter.

 

[Jasede]

Here's a fun bug: rarely, but every so often, Linzi casts "Freedom of Movement" there's a small chance for her to be removed from the party. You can still select her by clicking on her but her portrait disappears from the bottom row.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

By that sterling logic Oblivion, Skyrim and Fallout 3 with their 94+ Metacritic scores are the best RPGs ever.

Japanese RPGs generally get higher scores because, like Bethesda games, they have more exposure and better marketing than most cRPGs.

The real reason jrpgs get higher scores is because they tend to have better production values and less bugs. Also they are perfectly suitable games for their target audience: 12 year olds.

One thing many don't seem to get is that Japanese people avoid playing video games in adulthood, at least non-mobile phone games. Their games are generally designed for kids and teenagers, which is why in jrpgs teenager hero trope is so common...

On the other hand, most western rpgs tend to have poor production values, shitty quality assurance, and they don't even understand their own audience: They design games for 12 year olds while their audience are mainly 35 year old grumpy old veterans like myself. LOL.

jrpgs get higher scores because people who review japanese games are fucking weebs that would never dare say anything bad about a japanese product

 

[Reinhardt]

By that sterling logic Oblivion, Skyrim and Fallout 3 with their 94+ Metacritic scores are the best RPGs ever.

Japanese RPGs generally get higher scores because, like Bethesda games, they have more exposure and better marketing than most cRPGs.

The real reason jrpgs get higher scores is because they tend to have better production values and less bugs. Also they are perfectly suitable games for their target audience: 12 year olds.

One thing many don't seem to get is that Japanese people avoid playing video games in adulthood, at least non-mobile phone games. Their games are generally designed for kids and teenagers, which is why in jrpgs teenager hero trope is so common...

On the other hand, most western rpgs tend to have poor production values, shitty quality assurance, and they don't even understand their own audience: They design games for 12 year olds while their audience are mainly 35 year old grumpy old veterans like myself. LOL.

jrpgs get higher scores because people who review japanese games are fucking weebs that would never dare say anything bad about a japanese product

Final Fantasy is shit.